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OK, everyone loves Temptation/True Faith/Regret etc, plus old live faves like Age of Consent. But what about people's favourite b-sides/album tracks/singles that most fans don't like (ie SOTN/Shellshock/even, heaven forbid, Jetstream)? How about this for starters:

  1. Subculture album version
  2. Face-up
  3. Lonesome Tonight
  4. Every Little Counts
  5. Confused Instrumental (it's dead good, honest)
  6. Hurt
  7. All the way
  8. Ecstasy
  9. Sooner than you think
  10. 1963
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'Here To Stay' does this count as a lost track?

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that would have to be one of those that has never seen the light of day.

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Ive always really liked Loveless. I think it shows a different side to NO. Its such a simple song, yet has a great hook. I love the acoustic guitar and I think the fact that theres minimal instrumentation highlights just how great Barneys voice can sound at times (rather than get drowned out by overpowering bassriffs, and special effects, etc).

Just my opinion. Dont anyone get narked that im dissing Hookys bass playing because Im not.

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I think Sabotage - the 60 MPH B-side is fantastic - shoulda been on the album. Some very cool beats on that one, and love Hookey's growling bass.

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isaac wrote: 'Here To Stay' does this count as a lost track?

Thought that was a single? Or was it just recorded for 24h Party People soundtrack?

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confusion dub 87 subvulture mr. disco liar dracula's castle

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SPECIAL

One of the most beautiful, well written songs that New Order ever made. Best song on Republic.

ANGEL DUST

This should have been a single

VICIOUS STREAK

Beautiful Song

HURT

Amazing dance track. This should have been a single, not a B side.

ECSTACY

They Should have played this live

EVERYTHING ON TECHNIQUE

Especially Vanishing Point, Round and Round, Fine Time, Mr. Disco, and Dream Attack. All classic songs they should still eb in ther life show.

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HEY!

Since when are any of these suggestions lost?..

You can buy them in most good record shops on albums.

Best lost track has to be 'Let's Go'

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angel dust is fantastic.

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I think Close Range is a lost belter as are Sabotage and Paradise

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Jolene wrote: OK, everyone loves Temptation/True Faith/Regret etc, plus old live faves like Age of Consent. But what about people's favourite b-sides/album tracks/singles that most fans don't like (ie SOTN/Shellshock/even, heaven forbid, Jetstream)? How about this for starters:

  1. Subculture album version
  2. Face-up
  3. Lonesome Tonight
  4. Every Little Counts
  5. Confused Instrumental (it's dead good, honest)
  6. Hurt
  7. All the way
  8. Ecstasy
  9. Sooner than you think
  10. 1963

Yes, these are all good, including some of my long time favorites

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Doubts Even Here, seconded. Ecstasy. Let's Go. The Him

Oh, and lest I forget: Don't Do It. I actually played that before Fine Time!

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Melly Mel, I agree with "Dont Do It." It's one of my favorite NO tracks. It's just so out there yet so well put together. Love the samples on it.:D

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  1. Shell Shock
  2. Mr. Disco
  3. Face Up
  4. World
  5. Dracula's Castle
  6. Told you so
  7. Guilt is a useless emotion (remix version)
  8. Here to Stay
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I guess tracks like Dream Attack, Mr Disco and Primitive Notion get noteriety a lot for being favourites but Broken Promise doesn't seem to get a lot of mention and I love it.

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Tracks forgotten by the band like Chosen Time, Cries and Whispers, and Procession. Granted most people on this board know those songs but it's been ages since any of those were played live by the band.

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Primitive Notion. Should've been a third single off 'Get Ready'. Classic New Order, even John Peel played it a couple of times off the album.

Andy

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Don't Do It and Sabotage are relatively 'lost' I suppose.

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Sabotage, one of my all time favourites. and Hurt.

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and still no-one mentions....

TOO LATE

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Indeed, probably the only one that was actually lost! That and Skullcrusher anyway.

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ULTRAVIOLENCE

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Skullcrusher Cries & Whispers Hurt

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Let's Go Mesh Too Late Skullcrusher The Happy One

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Following on from Uncly Jhn

In a lonely place Hurt Chosen Tim Procession Murder Lets Go VIKINGS THEME 1963 Special

NU FUCKING ORDAH!!!!!!!!

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I've Got a Cock Like the M1

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Hurt, Murder, Touched by the Hand of God, Procession, Everything's Gone Green, Denial, 1963, Ultraviolence, Ecstasy, The Beach, Confusion (Instrumental), State of the Nation... I have plenty of favorite lost/B-side tracks.

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[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: Hurt, Murder, Touched by the Hand of God, Procession, Everything's Gone Green, Denial, 1963, Ultraviolence, Ecstasy, The Beach, Confusion (Instrumental), State of the Nation... I have plenty of favorite lost/B-side tracks.

I wouldn't say Touched is lost. It was a successful UK single and has made most of the compilations. And while Procession has made a few, it's been overshadowed by the more dance-oriented singles from that era like EGG and Temptation. How about Too Late? It could've made PCL, or at least that 1981-82 EP.

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Got to be AVALANCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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I agree. ULTRAVIOLENCE kicks ass!!!!!!!!!!! Very eclectic song.

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johnny james wrote: and still no-one mentions....

TOO LATE

Absolutely,it just has that'written in 5 minutes,no effort whatsoever' magnificence about it. Plus I'll have to go with; Let's Go(Salvation version) Don't do it Hurt Sabotage Doubts Even Here Ecstacy Chosen Time I know they're not lost,but usually get forgotten :scratch: :thumb:

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WFTSC due to it's strange vynil only release is,I feel a missed opportunity to score a good single hit. Great bassline,class song,deserved better.

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My selection of NO 'lost tracks' would include

Movement era

Truth, Senses, ICB and The Him

Power Corruption And Lies era

586 and Ecstasy

Low Life era

Love Vigilantes, Sunrise, Elegia and Sooner Than You Think

Brotherhood era

Broken Promise, Way Of Life and Angel Dust

Substance era

Confusion Dub

Technique era

Mr Disco, Vanishing Point, All The Way, Dream Attack and Loveless

Republic era

Everyone Everywhere, Young Offender, Special and Avalanche

Get Ready era

Vicious Streak, Close Range and Someone Like You

Waiting For The Sirens Call era

Morning Night & Day, Guilt Is A Useless Emotion and Turn

Miscellaneous Tracks

Brutal, Such A Good Thing, Let's Go and Sabotage

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Surely the only lost tracks are the ones that didn't get included on singles/albums? That would give us Brutal, Too Late and Homage, plus Skullcrusher if you don't count the Salvation soundtrack as an NO release. Salvation Theme and Sputnik were just incidental film music rather than songs per se.

I certainly haven't lost any of the others!

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The Happy One is another contender.

Or 'The Plinky Plonky Not Much Of A Point To It One' as I call it.

EDIT: Just noticed John included it!

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Behind Closed Doors.

/TLV

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Has to be "Too Late" and I'm glad some previous posts have mentioned it. I remember being blown away with this lost gem when I heard it first on that Peel Session 12" in about 1988(?). Couldn't believe they didn't do anything more with it after the session version.

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I just thought of Lets Go (demo). It kinda sounds like the music from the later version of Lets Go but the vocal melody sounds similar to Sooner Than You Think (IMO). And the keyboard solo kind reminds me of the one that ended up on 60MPH.

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I am thinking Evil Dust

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there are many neglected songs in their canon, but for me, the most obvious ones are :

Vanishing Point Here To Stay (not even on the box set, ffs) Special Chemical (this would have been a belter live) Lonesome Tonight Mr. Disco (live version)

the "Get Ready" b's are pretty fantastic as well.

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Sub-Culture...the Record Mirror version. Homage...western works sound demo. Prime-586...a 26 min long rarity. Love Dances...low life out-takes. tracks on the hacienda free flexi disc from 82. erm...loads more that i can't remember.

oh yeah, a live version of "anarchy in the uk"

heh, i like this forum.:)

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Christopher Owens wrote: I've Got a Cock Like the M1

Fair play to you:thumb: that's a bit off topic tho'

Now, what about your fave 'lost NO track'????

:evil4:

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"Haystack" by Kevin Hewick with New Order

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Off the top of my head:

Lonesome Tonight Let's Go Angel Dust This Time Of Night Here To Stay Turn My Way Hurt Ultraviolence

Now that's....magic!

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Mesh, Hurt, Lonesome Tonight and Brutal!

:nod:

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I couldn´t call any single or any track on their Technique album for lost really. Singles have a front position because the band themselves have chosen those tracks and Technique is commonly regarded as their prime LP amongst many fans.

That would leave out b-sides, album tracks and other tracks.

I would like to mention few hidden gems or songs in the tired "that should had been singles"[/i- category.

My list:

Broken Promise Times Change ( I know that this isn´t popular, but it was long my top track on Repub) Love Viligantes

Both Get Ready and WFTSC have plenty of good tracks:

Vicious Streak Turn My Way Close Range

Draculas Castle (up there with Dream Attack for me) Hey Now What You Doing

( Primitive Notion, GUILT and Turn already seems like favourites)

I also like Turn The Heater On, but I believe that was a cover. I only have it on a 4 track cassette somewhere.

mika

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vietnam from that warchild album

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5-8-6 (Peel Session) :thumb:

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: angel dust is fantastic.

Awesome tune.....but would love to hear 'Evil Dust' instead....

Sunrise

Hurt

Leave Me Alone

Broken Promise

Special

Vanishing Point

the list goes on.....cheeky cunts been playing the same old set for too long.

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[orange][orange]Sabotage one of my all time favourites.

Leave me alone

All the way

Here to stay extended insrumental. I think I prefer this to the vocal version at the moment. Thanks to Retro I picked up on this track.

Did anyone ever chase after a track called LOVE DANCE that was floating around in the late 80's/early 90's (when I got a copy) I had just got in to New Order and it was quite a good track - but turned out not to be New Order but some band called (I think) the bridge.[/orange][/orange]

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