new order youtube clips

hello. could someone please tell me the dates of the following new order clips:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7W4duI0qlHg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oZqcl4GTJC0

thanks, scott

February 1981?

the songs are from 2 diferent concerts and feature on a 82 fac video release. thats donald johnson from a.c.r. doing the handclap intro.

in aloney place was i think recorded in belgium may 15th 81 ,,could be wrong though.

love that was special.

Ceremony is from Manchester Poly 6/2/1981 and IALP is from Birmingham Imperial Cinema 23/1/1982.

Ceremony is from Manchester Poly 6/2/1981

Thus making it the earliest video footage of the band that we know of...unless someone knows otherwise?

thank-you for your replies

scott