Monaco play New Order tonight

Well...now that Barney is off of touring, it would make nice little sense if that soundalike Pottsy filled in on a few Order toons.

YeS,IT'S THE STUFF OF LEGEND!

After Pottsy's 6 song set,on came the maestro...with Jack on second bass!

For your money,oh the people who couldn't or weren't there,you're gonna shit....you got...

Insight ( with Rowetta on vocals) Age of Consent Sunrise Shine What do you want from me Insight ( encore )

It was fookin' awesome,& I can't contain my excitement,feel like a little schoolboy!

Amazing :D

Pottsy did a cracking job,joking before AOC that he hoped he wouldn't get slagged off tomorrow on here.For me,not a chance

:)

It's all true, and it was great fun. Hooky Jnr's eternally straight-face was surely a JD pastiche.

Surely?????

Oh, and the gig was so 'intimate' that Hooky felt it necessary to touch up Pamela on the way to the toilet. TWICE.

It's lucky Ness wasn't around.

is jack on a sidekick, blackberry, or something? I'm sure these developments aren't a surprise to some people. Maybe this will convince Barney to load up the autocue with more songs.

Doctor Clayhead wrote: It's all true, and it was great fun. Hooky Jnr's eternaly straight-face was surely a JD pastiche.

Surely?????

nah it's just called trying to focus on what you're playing so you don't fuck up on your first time live

Jack, you deserve a fuckload of credit for that tonight. Even if it did loook like you were going to shit the content of Pink Floyds wall at any given moment.

Still, you impressed me. And i'm a cunt.

so who got it on tape?

Alex

hope it's a good recording

I fucking hope it is or we'll never hear the end of it...

anyway got college tomorrow

glad you lot seem to have had a good night, cheers

sounds great hope to hear the recording of this in the near future!

[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: anyway got college tomorrow

glad you lot seem to have had a good night, cheers

Top of the Toppermost of Top nights Jack,& even tho' you looked terrified,thought you did a cracking job,had 'WDYWFM' off to a tee anyway.Dad looked well proud too

Sounds like a good night was missed! Damn having to work!

gents it was a truly dogs bollox evening, after a good set by pottsy (haveyou got the album yet it damn fine!)the joy of hearing age of consent and sunrise is just amazing and even better for being in a small venue that was not overpacked..you wouldnt imagine rowette sings joy division would be good but it was and superb to hear the top monaco tunes.

Lets hope this happens again and if barney decides to hang up his mike for a couple of years i'd be happy to hear the old stuff sung by pottsy if its like that. Whoever has taped it please get the link up asap!!!!!!!

gents it was a truly dogs bollox evening, after a good set by pottsy (haveyou got the album yet it damn fine!)the joy of hearing age of consent and sunrise is just amazing and even better for being in a small venue that was not overpacked..you wouldnt imagine rowette sings joy division would be good but it was and superb to hear the top monaco tunes.

Lets hope this happens again and if barney decides to hang up his mike for a couple of years i'd be happy to hear the old stuff sung by pottsy if its like that. Whoever has taped it please get the link up asap!!!!!!!

kel wrote:

Insight ( with Rowetta on vocals) Age of Consent Sunrise Shine What do you want from me Insight ( encore )

Insight twice?

fuckin awesome.

bunked in free. just walked in.

got to the VIP free, with hamburgers. nice.

and got to see Sunrise and Age of Consent.

and YES, Liam is one top arsehole. if it had of been the street, I would have stamped on his neck. but i didn't fancy gettin filled by hard rock heavy's.

good though.

oldmonkey wrote:

kel wrote:

Insight ( with Rowetta on vocals) Age of Consent Sunrise Shine What do you want from me Insight ( encore )

Insight twice?

Yep,seems that's all they had rehearsed!!

Amateurs.I couldn't give a fook,they could have played it alnite for me.Insight,AOC & Sunrise all in one evening,then 2 stomping Monaco tunes...pinch me,I think I'm dreaming,I still can't believe I witnessed it.Fookin' awesome:D

Oh, and just to make Pottsy's prophecy come tue, I'd just like to "bitch" about the lack of syndrums on "Insight", and though the lady behind the keyboards was very lovely, you couldn't hear the synths on "AoC". Tut.

Also, Pottsy could do with taking some tips from Liam and getting a good meal inside him - he's so skinny he made Jack look like a porker. Get some carbs in yer, fella!!

Doctor Clayhead wrote: It's all true, and it was great fun. Hooky Jnr's eternally straight-face was surely a JD pastiche.

Surely?????

Oh, and the gig was so 'intimate' that Hooky felt it necessary to touch up Pamela on the way to the toilet. TWICE.

It's lucky Ness wasn't around.

She made it out of the car park?

James Thomas wrote:

Doctor Clayhead wrote: It's all true, and it was great fun. Hooky Jnr's eternally straight-face was surely a JD pastiche.

Surely?????

Oh, and the gig was so 'intimate' that Hooky felt it necessary to touch up Pamela on the way to the toilet. TWICE.

It's lucky Ness wasn't around.

She made it out of the car park?

How droll.....

The problem with Age Of Consent, and the reason they didn't play it in the end, was that Bernard no longer sings in the key in which the song was originally written, and they couldn't get it right in a suitable key during the rehearsals. Same for Sunrise and I think This Time Of Night. "Don't talk to me about fookin' key changes!! ;)"

so we missed out on AoC, Sunrise and TTON on the last tour fair enough if he wasn't going to be able to do it in key though, probably wouldn't have done them justice if the singing was shite

Listen to Perfect Kiss from 2006 - they managed to get that one in a key that he could sing, but not the other ones. At least they were prepared to give them a go, that's something in itself.

As I've said in my post on the other thread it was a excellent gig/night with a cracking set from Hooky and Pottsy along with the banter I had with everyone. Shame I can't make Manc v's Cancer but will be up for something eles very soon. A+ Hooky, Pottsy and the face's old/new I met last night Cheers!

looks like you've had a cracking night out - and a great set a bit of everything. I'll second everyone who's hoping an audio emerges ;) Cheers lads

Could anyone introduce the blonde keyboard player?

Congrats Jack on doing so well and keeping your nerve steady. I can't wait for any audio that finds its way on out... this sounds like a gig to remember, indeed! Lucky, all who were there.

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Could anyone introduce the blonde keyboard player?

Was it Sara Lowes? She did keys for Pottsy at ULU in October.

oldmonkey wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Could anyone introduce the blonde keyboard player?

Was it Sara Lowes? She did keys for Pottsy at ULU in October.

Sara played the keyboards for the songs pottsy played with his band

but when we came on for our 5 the keyboard player was rachel

hey shug, sorry mate for using this thread,just saw pic from bournemouth 2006 and remember i gave u 2 tics, hows my return pressie?looking for early live stuff digital / dvd MP4, mine is all on video, got anything for me..Rich

so is there any audio of this gig coming out????

oldmonkey wrote: The problem with Age Of Consent, and the reason they didn't play it in the end, was that Bernard no longer sings in the key in which the song was originally written, and they couldn't get it right in a suitable key during the rehearsals. Same for Sunrise and I think This Time Of Night. "Don't talk to me about fookin' key changes!! ;)"

So they cant bother to put AOC or TTON or Sunrise in a key that Barney can sing, despite the fact that they are all classic New Order tunes....but they can play monolithic JD sludge like 24 Hours were the vocals werent even written by Barney? makes no sense to me.

Maybe they will drag out AOC on the next tour...thatd be grand. Why they keep shelving classic New Order songs to play crap JD songs like Warsaw and 24 Hours is beyond me. I didnt think Shadow play sounded that hot either....

I always figured they didnt play AOC because Hooky didnt wanna do the bass riff. I would imagine that playing that Bass riff would be hard on the hands after a while.....Ive tried playing it for 7 minutes straight it my hand hurt a bit.

Cant understand why Barney was shy about singing it....AOC is not in any way a hard song to sing.

Then again, to me, New Order is superrior to Joy Division in every single way..except for maybe vocals and lyrics. Barney is not as powerfully expressive in his vocals and lyrics as Ian Curtis was....but Barneys voice and lyrics have a charm all thier own. :)

Zachery Starkey wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: The problem with Age Of Consent, and the reason they didn't play it in the end, was that Bernard no longer sings in the key in which the song was originally written, and they couldn't get it right in a suitable key during the rehearsals. Same for Sunrise and I think This Time Of Night. "Don't talk to me about fookin' key changes!! ;)"

So they cant bother to put AOC or TTON or Sunrise in a key that Barney can sing, despite the fact that they are all classic New Order tunes....but they can play monolithic JD sludge like 24 Hours were the vocals werent even written by Barney? makes no sense to me.

Maybe they will drag out AOC on the next tour...thatd be grand. Why they keep shelving classic New Order songs to play crap JD songs like Warsaw and 24 Hours is beyond me. I didnt think Shadow play sounded that hot either....

I always figured they didnt play AOC because Hooky didnt wanna do the bass riff. I would imagine that playing that Bass riff would be hard on the hands after a while.....Ive tried playing it for 7 minutes straight it my hand hurt a bit.

Cant understand why Barney was shy about singing it....AOC is not in any way a hard song to sing.

Then again, to me, New Order is superrior to Joy Division in every single way..except for maybe vocals and lyrics. Barney is not as powerfully expressive in his vocals and lyrics as Ian Curtis was....but Barneys voice and lyrics have a charm all thier own. :)

Without JD,no N.O..Have some fookin' respect

Of course.

Dont get me wrong.

I LOVE Joy Division. They are one of the best bands ever. Brilliant in every way.

But I think that New Order is even better. Certainly more innovative.

Anyways....

It must have been pretty awesome for Jack to share a stage with his famous Dad, playing some classic New order tunes. :)

[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote:

oldmonkey wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Could anyone introduce the blonde keyboard player?

Was it Sara Lowes? She did keys for Pottsy at ULU in October.

Sara played the keyboards for the songs pottsy played with his band

but when we came on for our 5 the keyboard player was rachel

Jack

WTF were u drinking on stage mate?

Mountain Man wrote:

post of the week!!

haha only joking. i can't remember who it was without looking now but thanks to the guy who is uploading some audio! hope it's good

Absolutely gutted that I couldn't make the gig. Pig sick infact anyways....glad you lot all enjoyed it!

Zachery Starkey wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: The problem with Age Of Consent, and the reason they didn't play it in the end, was that Bernard no longer sings in the key in which the song was originally written, and they couldn't get it right in a suitable key during the rehearsals. Same for Sunrise and I think This Time Of Night. "Don't talk to me about fookin' key changes!! ;)"

So they cant bother to put AOC or TTON or Sunrise in a key that Barney can sing, despite the fact that they are all classic New Order tunes....but they can play monolithic JD sludge like 24 Hours were the vocals werent even written by Barney? makes no sense to me.

Maybe they will drag out AOC on the next tour...thatd be grand. Why they keep shelving classic New Order songs to play crap JD songs like Warsaw and 24 Hours is beyond me. I didnt think Shadow play sounded that hot either....

I always figured they didnt play AOC because Hooky didnt wanna do the bass riff. I would imagine that playing that Bass riff would be hard on the hands after a while.....Ive tried playing it for 7 minutes straight it my hand hurt a bit.

Cant understand why Barney was shy about singing it....AOC is not in any way a hard song to sing.

Then again, to me, New Order is superrior to Joy Division in every single way..except for maybe vocals and lyrics. Barney is not as powerfully expressive in his vocals and lyrics as Ian Curtis was....but Barneys voice and lyrics have a charm all thier own. :)

Fookin' twat. If you hadn't worked it out, Bernard's voice has changed a lot since he learned how to sing. When they first started writing songs as New Order, they were nearly all in a key that Bernard struggled with, hence the frequent yelping and octave changes mid-verse. In around 1987 he started to learn to sing properly (he'll never be a good singer technically, but he has improved markedly), and he started to find that a lot of the songs from the Low Life era in particular, but also including Age Of Consent, were rather difficult to sing. They tried changing the key on several of them in rehearsals to accommodate his voice, but for some of them it didn't work particularly well. It works fine for Perfect Kiss and LWTUA, but songs like This Time Of Night, Sunrise and Age Of Consent just don't sound right in a key sufficiently different to allow him to sing it properly. As they take it a lot more professionally these days, they'd rather not do something than do it poorly, understandably.

Make sense to you now?

Cheers Jack, don't know what happened there, wrote something, thought I'd pressed cancel, no alcohol consumed either haha! Crackin' performance by the way, keep it up mate, nice to see Hooky's red Yamaha make a reappearance too

Oh yeah, just one more thing, question for Old Monkey, do you remember whether it was John Robie who helped Bernard out with the singing? I just remember reading something to do with one of the band saying don't mess with the way we make music but Robie helped sort Barney out with his voice. Feel free to oorrect me if I'm wrong on that one!

oldmonkey wrote:

Zachery Starkey wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: The problem with Age Of Consent, and the reason they didn't play it in the end, was that Bernard no longer sings in the key in which the song was originally written, and they couldn't get it right in a suitable key during the rehearsals. Same for Sunrise and I think This Time Of Night. "Don't talk to me about fookin' key changes!! ;)"

So they cant bother to put AOC or TTON or Sunrise in a key that Barney can sing, despite the fact that they are all classic New Order tunes....but they can play monolithic JD sludge like 24 Hours were the vocals werent even written by Barney? makes no sense to me.

Maybe they will drag out AOC on the next tour...thatd be grand. Why they keep shelving classic New Order songs to play crap JD songs like Warsaw and 24 Hours is beyond me. I didnt think Shadow play sounded that hot either....

I always figured they didnt play AOC because Hooky didnt wanna do the bass riff. I would imagine that playing that Bass riff would be hard on the hands after a while.....Ive tried playing it for 7 minutes straight it my hand hurt a bit.

Cant understand why Barney was shy about singing it....AOC is not in any way a hard song to sing.

Then again, to me, New Order is superrior to Joy Division in every single way..except for maybe vocals and lyrics. Barney is not as powerfully expressive in his vocals and lyrics as Ian Curtis was....but Barneys voice and lyrics have a charm all thier own. :)

Fookin' twat. If you hadn't worked it out, Bernard's voice has changed a lot since he learned how to sing. When they first started writing songs as New Order, they were nearly all in a key that Bernard struggled with, hence the frequent yelping and octave changes mid-verse. In around 1987 he started to learn to sing properly (he'll never be a good singer technically, but he has improved markedly), and he started to find that a lot of the songs from the Low Life era in particular, but also including Age Of Consent, were rather difficult to sing. They tried changing the key on several of them in rehearsals to accommodate his voice, but for some of them it didn't work particularly well. It works fine for Perfect Kiss and LWTUA, but songs like This Time Of Night, Sunrise and Age Of Consent just don't sound right in a key sufficiently different to allow him to sing it properly. As they take it a lot more professionally these days, they'd rather not do something than do it poorly, understandably.

Make sense to you now?

Yes I realised all of that. Thank you for the extra insight. A boy can hope, yes? Who wouldnt be sad at the Order not being able to briong out some of the old calssics because of the key change.

Fookin Twat. :)

Someone who could spell!!!!

mmmmmmmmmmmm nice bass...

So gutted i couldn't make this gig and after reading all the reviews etc i feel fecking sick. I'm keeping my fingers crossed they'll do another gig in the not to distant future. Oh and congrats Jack on your first gig you must of been chuffed... Like Jack i'm dying to hear some audio...

ally wrote:

Whey! There's me at the back of the stage! Minxie was trying to get me up dancing there,mad bugger!