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I'd probably have to say either Procession or TPK 12" Their different types of song, but both encapsulate the NO 'sound'

I think Sirens' comes quite close as well, especially cos of Barney's vocals:nod:

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Temptation '87

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The choice of song here depends on what exactly is meant by "definitive". If you mean the song that set the template for the band's sound, you'd have to opt for 'Blue Monday' or 'The Perfect Kiss'. If it means a kind of "text book" New Order song, that has all the typical elements that define their sound, I'd actually have to go for 'Primitive Notion' - quite late on in their career, but to me that has everything you'd expect of a New Order record, including that dreamy melancholic chorus.

Other than that, we're once more talking about what our "favourite" NO song is!

Andy

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Good point Mr D

We all have your personal favourites but to be honest it would be difficult to look beyond Blue Monday, True Faith, BLT, Temptation, or Perfect Kiss as THE New Order track.

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: TPK 12"

and if you disagree, go fuck yourself.

...hehehehe - I agree - absofcukenlutely infcukencredible !...

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Rosie wrote: I love Bizzare love traingle, ceremony and temptation-they define the band for me - but think my favourite is sub-culture!

:confused2:

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oldmonkey wrote: Probably Regret for me, it isn't my favourite one but it does encapsulate all the necessary great NO ingredients.

Ditto! :thumb:

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Or Crystal.............

"we break easy........ i'm a poor man if you leave me.." New Order splitting up...........

:bag:

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Sunrise has everything. The live at the hacienda version is the best though.

I first heard it live at Womad 85 - Just blew me away favorite band ever since.

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If it was possible to choose. Just one song as definitive to give someone. Whether they'd ever heard the Band or not. Temptation. Live from the mid- late 80s.

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Just for the record, Sooner Than You Think is not my favorite New Order song. But it is in the vicinity of some of my many favorite New Order songs, which include Everythings Gone Green, Temptation 87, True Faith, Everyone Everywhere, Vanishing Point, Weirdo, This Time Of Night, Crystal, Confusion, and Guilt Is A Useless Emotion.

Sooner Than You Think, however, I feel personally is definitive because if you played the song for anyone they would get a risk of what New Order really is and see and hear multiple sides of them blended into a flowing masterwork.

J

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Boatraceface wrote: Anyone for a bit of Jetstream ?

:rofl: :nono:

& how can you have a definitive N.O. song sung by Hooky??!!

He sings on 2 out of over a 100,& that can be classed as definitive!!! Some people don't get these posts do they & just put their fav'!! & surely,considering their influence in melding rock,dance & electronics,it has to be a song containing these rather than a pure guitar track?? Hence TPK,Temptation,EGG etc.? :nonono: :\ohwell: :thumb:

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Easy...Murder or Fine time:D

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Just kidding. I would pick Regret. Its got a sunny yet meloncholy feel to it. A trademark Hooky bass riff, keyboards, guitar and drums all present and a decent vocal with usual obscure lyrics.

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'BLUE MONDAY' for very obvious reasons.

One of my very favs too !

Otherwise : 'Here to stay !' because you've got everything there : a very catchy tune, ultra danceable , quirky lyrics + lots from both Joy Divsion/NewOrder... In my humble opinion.

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the perfect kiss,,,,,seem to remember barney writing lyrics to that on the spot at nottingham 84..

its just a massive song with all the band having something to add to the mix..

when you are alone at night..

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Probably EGG.

Hurt is my favorite though.

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kel wrote:

Boatraceface wrote: Anyone for a bit of Jetstream ?

:rofl: :nono:

& how can you have a definitive N.O. song sung by Hooky??!!

He sings on 2 out of over a 100,& that can be classed as definitive!!! Some people don't get these posts do they & just put their fav'!! & surely,considering their influence in melding rock,dance & electronics,it has to be a song containing these rather than a pure guitar track?? Hence TPK,Temptation,EGG etc.? :nonono: :\ohwell: :thumb:

HOOKY??! I take it you're tongue-in-cheekily referring to Ana Matronic?

Andy

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perfect kiss

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this thread is bollocks! No such thing as a definative song.......maybe an album or a compilation, but a song....pah!:crazy:

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Mr Discography wrote:

kel wrote:

Boatraceface wrote: Anyone for a bit of Jetstream ?

:rofl: :nono:

& how can you have a definitive N.O. song sung by Hooky??!!

He sings on 2 out of over a 100,& that can be classed as definitive!!! Some people don't get these posts do they & just put their fav'!! & surely,considering their influence in melding rock,dance & electronics,it has to be a song containing these rather than a pure guitar track?? Hence TPK,Temptation,EGG etc.? :nonono: :\ohwell: :thumb:

HOOKY??! I take it you're tongue-in-cheekily referring to Ana Matronic?

Andy

I wasn't referencing Hooky as singing on Jetstream,merely just using that quote to start my post as laughing at it.I was referring to an earlier post as DNE being a definitive N.O. tune,which Hooky sings.I fail to see how a pure guitar tune & without Barny singing it could be their definitive song.Christ,if you were to play DNE & then TPK to someone unfamiliar to the band & their sound,they would think they were listening to two different bands!!! :shrug: :scratch: :thumb:

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kel wrote:

Mr Discography wrote:

kel wrote:

Boatraceface wrote: Anyone for a bit of Jetstream ?

:rofl: :nono:

& how can you have a definitive N.O. song sung by Hooky??!!

He sings on 2 out of over a 100,& that can be classed as definitive!!! Some people don't get these posts do they & just put their fav'!! & surely,considering their influence in melding rock,dance & electronics,it has to be a song containing these rather than a pure guitar track?? Hence TPK,Temptation,EGG etc.? :nonono: :\ohwell: :thumb:

HOOKY??! I take it you're tongue-in-cheekily referring to Ana Matronic?

Andy

I wasn't referencing Hooky as singing on Jetstream,merely just using that quote to start my post as laughing at it.I was referring to an earlier post as DNE being a definitive N.O. tune,which Hooky sings.I fail to see how a pure guitar tune & without Barny singing it could be their definitive song.Christ,if you were to play DNE & then TPK to someone unfamiliar to the band & their sound,they would think they were listening to two different bands!!! :shrug: :scratch: :thumb:

Actually, allow me to disagree with you there.

Mr. Hooky doesn't sing very much, but in my humble opinion his voice is as underrated as it's gonna get. DNE signaled the starting of a new beginning for NO when Movement started.

I just started listening to it again this morning, and I probably could rank it up there with TPK as a strong definitive track. You've got Gillian's smart synths, Hooky's catch-tastic bass, Steve's massively recognizable workings with the drums [set, machine, and/or otherwise!], Barney's very-necessary guitars...

The only difference is that Hooky sings and Barney shuts up. :p

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