Does the 80's music still rule?

Who thinks the 80's music still rulz to this very day? I personally think it still rulz it brings back memories of my early days and my high school years:) I had to bring up this topic cause I thought it's something different for a change I am just curious to see how many people still love the 80's music!.

Missy

HOOKY'S DANCING DISCO BACKUP DJ.:D PS I HAD TO SAY THAT!

80's music is actaully very good

Always had, always will. I grew up on that stuff!

Most of my favourite bands were at their peak in the 1980s, so yes I would have to agree.

There was loads of absolute cack in the 80's as well though

Well yes, but for every Every Little Counts there was a Ceremony!

missy in non peter hook related post shocker

Some of the 80's was cack,but a lot of the experimental stuff still stands up.Still love early Human League (well some of their recent stuff too),Soft Cell,Cocteau Twins, OMD still rock my boat,Pet Shop Boys,Echo & THe Bunnymen,a lot of guitar bands in fact.Plus some Manchester band whose name escapes me.

I think the secret to the 80's which still holds dear to everyone was the sense of fun. I look at the stuff now,and I love a lot of it. But in the 80's there was a dash of colour. The hairdo's were fucking embarrassing,but a constant source of nostalgia.

General Dogsbody wrote: Well yes, but for every Every Little Counts there was a Ceremony!

I love all that 80s New Romantics synth stuff.

Many wonderful songs were written in the 1980s----I was born in 1987 so sadly, I don't know what it was like actually to live in the 1980s very much.

There were several good bands (NO, The Cure, Depeche Mode, PSB, Soft Cell, Human league, Metallica), but there were some bands and genres that were absolutely horrible (hair metal, bubblegum pop like Tiffany, Milli Vanilli, Wham, most American bands.)

missy wrote: Who thinks the 80's music still rulz to this very day? I personally think it still rulz it brings back memories of my early days and my high school years:) I had to bring up this topic cause I thought it's something different for a change I am just curious to see how many people still love the 80's music!.

Missy

HOOKY'S DANCING DISCO BACKUP DJ.:D PS I HAD TO SAY THAT!

80s MUSIC rules in everyway; it's fun, upbeat, stylish and trend setter. 80s MUSIC matters! just can't get enough.

This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote: ... most American bands.

Not neccessarily - Sonic Youth, Husker Du, Pixies, Minor Threat, Dead Kennedys, Bad Religion, Devo, REM, Mission of Burma...all innovative and influential US bands from the 80s

There was much more to "80s music" than sythpop and the Smash Hits rubbish...don't forget the likes of Wire and Magazine as well!

CTB

Its still fairly relevant, I wouldn't say that it rules though.

Most of the bands I like are from the eighties..... even though the eighties were not really my era for music (being aged between 2 and 12 during that decade!)

The brit pop era was a good time, kind of 94-97, some great bands around then..... but I always seem to end up back at the eighties stuff.

A lot of the music was great, be it mainstream pop or the more independant stuff. As for the haircuts and clothes though......

yes, 80's music is superior to what's out today. as far as the clothes and hair styles, they should bring that back too. :P

Like every decade, it was a very mixed time. People saying ridiculous sweeping statements like "all 80s stuff was crap" etc are really way off the beam as with any given time in music, there were huge differences between not only bands but also a wide variety of genres etc.

As someone that lived through the decade as a young gig-going, record-buying bloke in Britain, I'd say it was an amazing time musically. Yeah sure, you had a lot of crap about but for a good five or six years, synth-based musics did the business across Europe especially. Even inside of synth musics, you had a fair few chancers and bandwagon jumpers but then that would've always been the case as it is with any genre which has become absorbed by the mainstream to become 'the norm' (this was both the making and the death of dance music).

The fact that the great songs of that decade are still widely appreciated, receive mucho airplay etc is testament to how good they were. Think of songs like Torch, Blue Monday, Enola Gay, The Only Way Is Up, Agadoo (ha ha!)...

It's weird: people think of the sixties as some sort of golden age musically as well but people also forget that a lot of crapola came out then too. You'd never know because the 'classic gold' radio stations only play the well-known hits from that decade, airbrushing the shit out of existance. The shit still remains but it's hidden!

To me the music I loved then and still love is what matters. You love it for your own reasons and great music stands apart from - and paradoxically is inextricably linked with - the time it was first known to the world.

80's pop/rock like any other era has it’s gems and it's s***e. The main difference is '80's pop had more of a progressive, inventive and naïve feel to it - at the indie end at least, than today's retro, derivative, stylised, throw-away and corporate ethos. There does tend to be a convenient pigeon hole-ing of everything associated with the '80's as being New Romantic/Synth/Electro pop. Yes that was a popular sound at the time and the likes of NO, Depeche Mode, PSB, Human League/Heaven 17, Soft Cell, OMD, Visage, Ultravox, Japan etc. were absolutely massive but the decade is also notable for the sheer amount of musical genres that it spawned. In the early '80's the punk rock movement either capitulated or merged towards a new wave sound which embraced other forms of music and attracted newcomers to the sound. For example The Clash/BAD, Blondie and Talking Heads incorporated elements of Reggae, Hip Hop and other sounds into their mix. Reggae and Ska were also massive as typified by the Two Tone/The Specials sound although the commercial success of Madness (who I don't mind) and novelty pop of Bad Manners probably killed the scene's underground credentials. The likes of The Smiths, Echo And The Bunneymen, Coctau Twins, Jesus And The Mary Chain, Pixies etc. were part of a indie rock underground which was more about making music they wanted to make rather than doing music which did well in the charts and at the time gained critical success rather than the sales success you could say they should have had. The '80's was also Hip Hop's 'golden era' with Afrika Bambaataa, Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC, KRS One, Public Enemy, Eric B And Rakim, Mantronix etc. showing just how new, fresh, exciting and dangerous this music was back then compared to the boring gangsta/R&B rap s***e which pervades today. The mid-'80's is IMHO the decades low point with the Stock/Aitken/Waterman pop of (P)Rick Astley etc. for example being the lowest common denominator of the s***e that was around back then. However as the decade was coming to an end an interesting and exciting musical movement emerged that NO/Factory/Hacienda was to be a part of. The Dance/Rave scene although pimped to almost extinction by the mid '90's was absolutely mind blowing in 1987/88 when you heard the House/Acid House being produced by Frankie Knuckles, Marshall Jefferson, DJ Pierre, Steve 'Silk' Hurley, Farley Jackmaster Funk, Tony Humpries etc. Combine that with Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie 'Flashin' Fowlkes, Kenny Larkin, Carl Craig etc. Techno sound of Detroit you had the elements which created a necessary to shake up the music scene - in the UK and Europe at least. NO were around at the start of this Dance music revolution and Technique represents just how different the pop music landscape was post 1988. Likewise many of Manchester's music makers to a greater or lesser degree incorporated these influences into their sound. The 'Madchester' era of the Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, Charlatans, 808 State, Inspiral Carpets etc. is arguably one of the most creative periods of the '80's and directly/indirectly helped lay the foundations for the likes of Dance music acts like The Chemicals, Orbital, Leftfield, Underworld, Moby, The Orb, Massive Attack, Prodigy, Faithless, FSOL, LFO, Aphex Twin, Hardfloor, etc. to emerge in the '90's. On the whole I like much of the music that emerged in the '80's and I suppose if it's good it will eventually get appreciated - even if it wasn't at the time. Still I'd love to meet the f***ers who bought that Joe Dolce single and Kept Ultravox's Vienna of No.1 on a dark night LOL! Anyway time for a break from the keyboard methinks - cheers!

Alan Paul Kitching wrote: 80's pop/rock like any other era has it’s gems and it's s***e. The main difference is '80's pop had more of a progressive, inventive and naïve feel to it - at the indie end at least, than today's retro, derivative, stylised, throw-away and corporate ethos. There does tend to be a convenient pigeon hole-ing of everything associated with the '80's as being New Romantic/Synth/Electro pop. Yes that was a popular sound at the time and the likes of NO, Depeche Mode, PSB, Human League/Heaven 17, Soft Cell, OMD, Visage, Ultravox, Japan etc. were absolutely massive but the decade is also notable for the sheer amount of musical genres that it spawned. In the early '80's the punk rock movement either capitulated or merged towards a new wave sound which embraced other forms of music and attracted newcomers to the sound. For example The Clash/BAD, Blondie and Talking Heads incorporated elements of Reggae, Hip Hop and other sounds into their mix. Reggae and Ska were also massive as typified by the Two Tone/The Specials sound although the commercial success of Madness (who I don't mind) and novelty pop of Bad Manners probably killed the scene's underground credentials. The likes of The Smiths, Echo And The Bunneymen, Coctau Twins, Jesus And The Mary Chain, Pixies etc. were part of a indie rock underground which was more about making music they wanted to make rather than doing music which did well in the charts and at the time gained critical success rather than the sales success you could say they should have had. The '80's was also Hip Hop's 'golden era' with Afrika Bambaataa, Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC, KRS One, Public Enemy, Eric B And Rakim, Mantronix etc. showing just how new, fresh, exciting and dangerous this music was back then compared to the boring gangsta/R&B rap s***e which pervades today. The mid-'80's is IMHO the decades low point with the Stock/Aitken/Waterman pop of (P)Rick Astley etc. for example being the lowest common denominator of the s***e that was around back then. However as the decade was coming to an end an interesting and exciting musical movement emerged that NO/Factory/Hacienda was to be a part of. The Dance/Rave scene although pimped to almost extinction by the mid '90's was absolutely mind blowing in 1987/88 when you heard the House/Acid House being produced by Frankie Knuckles, Marshall Jefferson, DJ Pierre, Steve 'Silk' Hurley, Farley Jackmaster Funk, Tony Humpries etc. Combine that with Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie 'Flashin' Fowlkes, Kenny Larkin, Carl Craig etc. Techno sound of Detroit you had the elements which created a necessary to shake up the music scene - in the UK and Europe at least. NO were around at the start of this Dance music revolution and Technique represents just how different the pop music landscape was post 1988. Likewise many of Manchester's music makers to a greater or lesser degree incorporated these influences into their sound. The 'Madchester' era of the Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, Charlatans, 808 State, Inspiral Carpets etc. is arguably one of the most creative periods of the '80's and directly/indirectly helped lay the foundations for the likes of Dance music acts like The Chemicals, Orbital, Leftfield, Underworld, Moby, The Orb, Massive Attack, Prodigy, Faithless, FSOL, LFO, Aphex Twin, Hardfloor, etc. to emerge in the '90's. On the whole I like much of the music that emerged in the '80's and I suppose if it's good it will eventually get appreciated - even if it wasn't at the time. Still I'd love to meet the f***ers who bought that Joe Dolce single and Kept Ultravox's Vienna of No.1 on a dark night LOL! Anyway time for a break from the keyboard methinks - cheers!

Yeah, what he said.

Julie wrote: There was loads of absolute cack in the 80's as well though

There was some utter shite in the eighties - who remembers five star! Mind you, I liked them at the time but I was a child! Can see now that I should have been shot for my musical taste! Although, I did prefer Duran Duran to wham! Redeenming? Maybe not!

Alan Paul Kitching wrote: 80's pop/rock like any other era has it’s gems and it's s***e. The main difference is '80's pop had more of a progressive, inventive and naïve feel to it - at the indie end at least, than today's retro, derivative, stylised, throw-away and corporate ethos. There does tend to be a convenient pigeon hole-ing of everything associated with the '80's as being New Romantic/Synth/Electro pop. Yes that was a popular sound at the time and the likes of NO, Depeche Mode, PSB, Human League/Heaven 17, Soft Cell, OMD, Visage, Ultravox, Japan etc. were absolutely massive but the decade is also notable for the sheer amount of musical genres that it spawned. In the early '80's the punk rock movement either capitulated or merged towards a new wave sound which embraced other forms of music and attracted newcomers to the sound. For example The Clash/BAD, Blondie and Talking Heads incorporated elements of Reggae, Hip Hop and other sounds into their mix. Reggae and Ska were also massive as typified by the Two Tone/The Specials sound although the commercial success of Madness (who I don't mind) and novelty pop of Bad Manners probably killed the scene's underground credentials. The likes of The Smiths, Echo And The Bunneymen, Coctau Twins, Jesus And The Mary Chain, Pixies etc. were part of a indie rock underground which was more about making music they wanted to make rather than doing music which did well in the charts and at the time gained critical success rather than the sales success you could say they should have had. The '80's was also Hip Hop's 'golden era' with Afrika Bambaataa, Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC, KRS One, Public Enemy, Eric B And Rakim, Mantronix etc. showing just how new, fresh, exciting and dangerous this music was back then compared to the boring gangsta/R&B rap s***e which pervades today. The mid-'80's is IMHO the decades low point with the Stock/Aitken/Waterman pop of (P)Rick Astley etc. for example being the lowest common denominator of the s***e that was around back then. However as the decade was coming to an end an interesting and exciting musical movement emerged that NO/Factory/Hacienda was to be a part of. The Dance/Rave scene although pimped to almost extinction by the mid '90's was absolutely mind blowing in 1987/88 when you heard the House/Acid House being produced by Frankie Knuckles, Marshall Jefferson, DJ Pierre, Steve 'Silk' Hurley, Farley Jackmaster Funk, Tony Humpries etc. Combine that with Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie 'Flashin' Fowlkes, Kenny Larkin, Carl Craig etc. Techno sound of Detroit you had the elements which created a necessary to shake up the music scene - in the UK and Europe at least. NO were around at the start of this Dance music revolution and Technique represents just how different the pop music landscape was post 1988. Likewise many of Manchester's music makers to a greater or lesser degree incorporated these influences into their sound. The 'Madchester' era of the Happy Mondays, Stone Roses, Charlatans, 808 State, Inspiral Carpets etc. is arguably one of the most creative periods of the '80's and directly/indirectly helped lay the foundations for the likes of Dance music acts like The Chemicals, Orbital, Leftfield, Underworld, Moby, The Orb, Massive Attack, Prodigy, Faithless, FSOL, LFO, Aphex Twin, Hardfloor, etc. to emerge in the '90's. On the whole I like much of the music that emerged in the '80's and I suppose if it's good it will eventually get appreciated - even if it wasn't at the time. Still I'd love to meet the f***ers who bought that Joe Dolce single and Kept Ultravox's Vienna of No.1 on a dark night LOL! Anyway time for a break from the keyboard methinks - cheers!

I got two and half lines into this and realised, unsurprisingly that you were, in fact, talking complete and utter bullshit.

The main difference is '80's pop had more of a progressive, inventive and naïve feel to it - at the indie end at least, than today's retro, derivative, stylised, throw-away and corporate ethos

stylised, throw away and corporate ethos? Nice to see you'be been reading the dictionary Alan but you really shouldnt have done it at the expense of checking out of reality.

Presumably, you think that music stop and starts with what you hear on whatever Radio Station you listen to. So that means you are likely to hear some rapper or r nb nonsense samping Phil Collins, or Toto or Spandau Ballet etc etc. Of course, this means you havent checked out any of the hundreds of half decent bands out there because even though you know they are out there (and if you dont you are even less intelligent than I gave you credit for). So according to you, who knows nothing about todays music short of perceptions of the stuff you hear on the radio and looking into what its not, and therefore criticising it, what you should do is look into what is there, what is good about it and actually enjoy it.

In one sweeping statement you have denegrated the entirity of todays music scene. Well, I'll tell you what, based on our conversation a few weeks ago, in the "Other Bands You Like" thread in BCD, I have a done a nice big list, so look at that, get yourself onto Myspace, or Napster and then come back to be with an informed reasonable debate, something which is a vast improvement on "I Dont like The Whip, I Like Electronic Music"

As for the best decade. Well, as anyone with a brain would realise, the likes of Stock, Aitken and Waterman and that kind of nonsense has always been around. In fact, I did a blog entry on it which can be found here so i would never let that pre judge my opinion on what has been the best musical decade. I actaully think that if you were a fan of independent live music that anytime after 1977 you'd be alright, especially in the major cities. I think the only time the 'scene' got bad was between 99-2003 when the following bands were top of the tree: Travis, Coldplay, Limp Bizkit (does anyone remember the whole nu-metal thing. Ouch), The D*rkness (very briefly, thank fuck) and you couldnt go anywhere without hearing gangsta rap, or nu metal or shit like that. 2004 comes along, so do Franz Ferdinand, and a year later you cant move for gigs by decent bands again. What happens in 2004? The first mega rush for Glastonbury tickets, followed in 2005 by the first mega rush for tickets to Reading/Leeds and V. Who, generally, plays these events? Popular independent bands.

So, to go back to the original question, does 80's music still rule? Well its very hard for a decade to rule anything, what with it being a designated time frame. Considering how styles change and things evolve and new sounds are created its probably very inaccurate to pigeonhole.

What I will say is this, if anyone is stupid enough to limit themselves to one era, or one scene, or one type of music, one dare i say it, one band, then they are a total fool. Life, and Music goes on.

Yes, 80's music still rules! The 80's was the apex of Western Civilization. 'nuff said.

One great thing about the 80s was the simple fact that there was so many one-hit wonders that it allowed for so much experimentation. Plus there wasn't the pigeon-holing as there is today. Granted there were titles and radio stations did stick to the genre mostly, but everyone that listened to the clash, heard some billy ocean, micheal jackson, belinda carlisle (or how ever you spell it), or some other group that was from outside the genre. Talking to kids today, they listen to their genre solely and don't deviate outside the box. Seems music appreciation is at a real low today:\ohwell:

The only 80's song that matters

Agreed

Uncle Liam wrote: Agreed

Now there's a first!

how about this then.

or this.

one more.

Now I just have to post this one. :)

I think why the 80's usually gets a bad rap:

In the 60s and 70s the best music was played while the crap was forgotten.

In the 80s the worst music was played while the best music was mostly ignored.

Probably due to generation gap - the punk, indie, rap, industrial and acid house (basically everything good) didnt go down well with the arrogant Baby Boomers, who controlled everything at the time and wanted to constantly remind everyone that they did everything first and better and that there was no need to listen to anything else ever for the rest of time!

Then in the 90s pop culture went back to the kids. But by the late 90s it all started to go downhill with everybody running out of ideas and the rise of boy/girl band shit. Seriously, was there a worse period of music then around '99 to -, well, now? Maybe I'm just getting to be an old geezer but I can't think of one new artist to come out since 2002 that's been any good at all.

Prove me wrong!

FtotheDoubleOff wrote: Seriously, was there a worse period of music then around '99 to -, well, now?

Yeah, it was 88-90. Seriously, how many GOOD albums came out then? Nothing but hair band ballads and boy band crap. Even the good bands were passing off shite at that time.

I'm on a roll here so:

Arctic Monkeys - have only heard a couple songs, but honestly dont think there's anything remarkable there whatsoever

Franz Ferdinand - make me sick. I've tried listening to them with an open mind but I dont like them at all.

My Chemical Romance / Fall Out Boy - do I even need to say anything? OK, they may not be the stereotypical emo bands everyone says they are but that doesn't mean they're any good. Completely derivative.

Coldplay - Couple good tunes but genereally boring as fuck. Dont count anyway as they came out in 2001 didnt they?

Modest Mouse - Great band, but they're not new. They were making impact in '97, but only in the mainstream recently.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs - they're good. Hey I thought of one!

C.S.S. - I like them a lot but a lot of folks just despise them. Dont think they have staying power.

Ladytron - Great, but disqualified. Came out in 2000.

Lily Allen - she's alright, I guess. THat's two!

MIA - overrated.

New Pornographers - think they're good, but dont think they're new..?

I've been hearing about the Klaxons so I'll have to check them out.

I would say yes; but that is due to I mostly still only listen to bands that were around in the 80's. I also don't think that music from the 80's will ever die. You still hear a lot of it in movies and TV shows.

Psy

I feel quite strong about this,mainly having bias as it was my era,but I genuinely feel that the '80's did have the best music & most originality,plus longevity too.These days,bands have either nicked somebody else's sound completely where I hear something & think,'I've heard that before',or have only one decent idea,can't follow up their 'era defining 1st album' & last 5 minutes then disappear.Look at the wealth of quality,original & different sounding bands from the '80's...N.O.,ACR,Cocteaus,Cabs,Jesus & Mary Chain,Bunnymen,Smiths,Mondays,Cure,Banshees,PIL,....just to name a few favourites,everyone will have their own I'm sure,but in my honest opinion,modern day music does not stand upto it.& yes,I do now sound like my dad ( '60's etc. )

It seems like half of today's music samples stuff from the 70's or 80's.

The Good: New Order/Joy Division (LWTUA only, but it seems to qualify alot as an 80s band), The Cure, U2, Rush, Scorpions, Van Halen, Danzig, Duran Duran, Nine Inch Nails, Slayer, Tom Petty, Supertramp, The Police.

The Bad: Wham!, Rick Astley, A-ha, most of the one-hit-wonders, like say, Kajagogo or whatever the hell they were called.

The Ugly: Culture Club.

So Bad It's Almost Good: Zlad!

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

if there is a God, I will pray to him that you rot in hell for that one Mr. Owens!!!

Come on Jeff. How can you not love that slap bass?

I read your stuff wow how many of you's is still in to the 80's music oh ya I remember Blondie I wasn't picky with the songs and bands in the era in some music stores here there is cds with all the 80's music I am planning to get them not too mention here in Toronto on the Chum Fm station on Sundays they always play the lost 80's music and they continue to do so.:)

Missy

FtotheDoubleOff wrote: I think why the 80's usually gets a bad rap:

In the 60s and 70s the best music was played while the crap was forgotten.

In the 80s the worst music was played while the best music was mostly ignored.

Prove me wrong!

from this i'd say you grew up in the 80's. & the music being played from the 70's & 60's was the stuff that survived the test of time & the rubbish (popular chart music generally) was not played so much. these days the 80's music played on the radio tends to be far better than the 80's music that was played in the 80's

every decade gets shit music played on the radio.

no decade really stands out as being the best for me, i actually (for once) agree with liams first post on this thread - there are lots of very very good bands out there now, just as there were in the nineties and the eighties. you just need to have an open mind

its far easier to hear music you've not heard before now though.

by the way, blondie were formed in august 1974 from the remnants of debbies previous band, the stilettos. their first album (on private stock records) was released in dec 1976. anyione else got a copy of the private stock release?

their first four albums came out in 1976 1977 1978 & 1979

first 80's album was autoamerican. hardly one of their best. & that was followed with the hunter & their demise.

not really an eighties band.

hibster wrote: by the way, blondie were formed in august 1974 from the remnants of debbies previous band, the stilettos. their first album (on private stock records) was released in dec 1976. anyione else got a copy of the private stock release?

their first four albums came out in 1976 1977 1978 & 1979

first 80's album was autoamerican. hardly one of their best. & that was followed with the hunter & their demise.

not really an eighties band.

You are splitting hairs. To me any music released in the 80s is 80s music.

I still dance like Simon Le Bon after sinking a shot in a pickup basketball game or in the aisle of the grocery store when something good is on sale or in the stands during intermission of an ultimate fighting match.

Well apart from New Order, Art of Noise and Propaganda, the 80's were a time of unmitigated pish.....nina, timmy mallet, kylie, SONIA, the rise of U2.

I tend to punch people who, depsite being 6 in 1990 say "ooooh the 80's was so cool". No, no it wasn't it was a shrill and annoying decade of water-weak tunes and retarded fashions. And Goths!

Still like the odd Duran Duran tune too I suppose.

BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Yes. Most creative and experimental decade of music ever. End Of.

NOOLigan wrote:

hibster wrote: by the way, blondie were formed in august 1974 from the remnants of debbies previous band, the stilettos. their first album (on private stock records) was released in dec 1976. anyione else got a copy of the private stock release?

their first four albums came out in 1976 1977 1978 & 1979

first 80's album was autoamerican. hardly one of their best. & that was followed with the hunter & their demise.

not really an eighties band.

You are splitting hairs. To me any music released in the 80s is 80s music.

ispo facto all the decent blondie releases were in the 70's. QED

Doctor? wrote: BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Uh, no. That is the way centuries work. The 21st century began on 1 January, 2001. Decades are different. By definition, the 1980's began 1 January, 1980, not 1981. You'd be correct in saying, though, that decade #199 began 1 January, 1981. However, the 1980's, they did begin in 1980, just as their very name suggests.

[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote:

missy in non peter hook related post shocker

Shellshocker wrote:

Doctor? wrote: BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Uh, no. That is the way centuries work. The 21st century began on 1 January, 2001. Decades are different. By definition, the 1980's began 1 January, 1980, not 1981. You'd be correct in saying, though, that decade #199 began 1 January, 1981. However, the 1980's, they did begin in 1980, just as their very name suggests.

Yes, but it's the same with decades too. Think about it....since the year 2000 was in the 20th century, it must be in the 1990's. Never mind my silly argument above, it really IS that way.

Oi, the stuff I grew up trying to sing along to as a kid...

New Order Joy Division [eh, 'Substance', anyone?] The Human League Alphaville Front 242 [yes, the godfathers of industrial music] Visage Depeche Mode The Smiths/Morrissey Electronic [yes, Elec-fookin'-tronic] Berlin [and definitely not that 'Take My Breath Away' crap either!!! ] The Stone Roses Siouxsie and the Banshees Ministry [their EARLY stuff] Bauhaus/Peter Murphy Heaven 17 And lest I forget, the Eurythmics!

...man how I wish I could relive those days. Chuffed to podge.

Doctor? wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Doctor? wrote: BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Uh, no. That is the way centuries work. The 21st century began on 1 January, 2001. Decades are different. By definition, the 1980's began 1 January, 1980, not 1981. You'd be correct in saying, though, that decade #199 began 1 January, 1981. However, the 1980's, they did begin in 1980, just as their very name suggests.

Yes, but it's the same with decades too. Think about it....since the year 2000 was in the 20th century, it must be in the 1990's. Never mind my silly argument above, it really IS that way.

No, decades and centuries are different. I don't know why you think they are intrinsically linked in their definitions. Centuries are different because we start with the year 1, not the year 0. Do you think 30 is the last number in the 20's?? Is someone 30 years old still in their 20's?? But if you don't agree now, you probably never will, so I guess I won't bother arguing any further.

GreenBlueGrey wrote: Yes. Most creative and experimental decade of music ever. End Of.

Agree too

Doctor? wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Doctor? wrote: BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Uh, no. That is the way centuries work. The 21st century began on 1 January, 2001. Decades are different. By definition, the 1980's began 1 January, 1980, not 1981. You'd be correct in saying, though, that decade #199 began 1 January, 1981. However, the 1980's, they did begin in 1980, just as their very name suggests.

Yes, but it's the same with decades too. Think about it....since the year 2000 was in the 20th century, it must be in the 1990's. Never mind my silly argument above, it really IS that way.

He's right you know, as Wiki states:

"the first decade of the 20th century indicates a period from January 1, 1901 until December 31, 1910."

Nick King wrote:

He's right you know, as Wiki states:

"the first decade of the 20th century indicates a period from January 1, 1901 until December 31, 1910."

That's the first decade of the 20th century. I don't deny that. But using the term "the 1980's" is not the same thing. Yes, the eighth decade of the 20th century begins January 1, 1981. I agree with that. However, the 1980's is not the exact same thing as the either decade of the 20th century. Again, like I said, that's like saying that someone who is 30 is still in their 20's. To summarize:

The eighth decade of the 20th century indicates a period from January 1, 1981 until December 31, 1990.

The 1980's is a period from January 1, 1980 until December 31, 1989.

wow. out of control. 80's music is that which was made when there is a 1-9-8 in the calendar year. i don't recall any 80s music being made in 1990. but the clash did put out london calling in 1979... still.

the 80s saw the expansion of what punk created. i'm not talking about sound (although that's part of it), i'm talking about the business. in the 60s and 70s, the "underground" was a local or, at best, regional phenomenom. little record labels would put out little records with little distribution. punk changed that, in theory, but it took a few years for the theory to become reality. but when it did...

suddenly you didn't need a big record label with a huge distribution network. the underground had connected itself, and it was worldwide. if you didn't need a big record company to pay for your distribution, you could put out whatever you wanted. for the first time, barring a few 60s and 70s mavericks, musicians were in control, not businessmen. quality of music trumped quantity of sales. the climate changed. if you made a really great album, but it was a bit uncommercial (or whatever the big record labels deemed "uncommercial,") people could still hear it.

punk was the best thing that happened to music, not because it stripped rock back down to the core, not because it did away with prog-rock (prog rock survived handily), but because it changed the way the business worked. it opened it up with dramatic results.

80s music is the first flowering of this freedom. so it was whacked out. and that's why 80s music rocks: cuz it's whacked.

I was born after the 80's and there is no music better than it. Especially compared to the s**t on the radio nowdays....

I know its inevitable, but I find something depressing about catagorising music by decade. It's like the further away it recedes in time the more stuff that at the time seemed to have nothing in common all gets lumped together. Hence we get 80's nostalgia shows with New Order rubbing shoulders with the likes of Bonnie Tyler or T'Pau (shudder!).

Riiiiight,so how I'm understanding this,please forgive my schooled upbringing,ignorance & the fact that I've obviously been counting wrong all these years,is that the '80's actually doesn't include songs before 01/01/81,as this wasn't the '80's????? Even tho' it has '8' in the title?? So Joy Division actually didn't release anything in the '80's/ Fook me,I'm such a fookin' moron!!!

What a fookin' load of bollox.Now go away.Quickly

kel wrote: Riiiiight,so how I'm understanding this,please forgive my schooled upbringing,ignorance & the fact that I've obviously been counting wrong all these years,is that the '80's actually doesn't include songs before 01/01/81,as this wasn't the '80's????? Even tho' it has '8' in the title?? So Joy Division actually didn't release anything in the '80's/ Fook me,I'm such a fookin' moron!!!

What a fookin' load of bollox.Now go away.Quickly

Fook knows - I'm just as confused as anyone!