Does the 80's music still rule?

one more.

Now I just have to post this one. :)

I think why the 80's usually gets a bad rap:

In the 60s and 70s the best music was played while the crap was forgotten.

In the 80s the worst music was played while the best music was mostly ignored.

Probably due to generation gap - the punk, indie, rap, industrial and acid house (basically everything good) didnt go down well with the arrogant Baby Boomers, who controlled everything at the time and wanted to constantly remind everyone that they did everything first and better and that there was no need to listen to anything else ever for the rest of time!

Then in the 90s pop culture went back to the kids. But by the late 90s it all started to go downhill with everybody running out of ideas and the rise of boy/girl band shit. Seriously, was there a worse period of music then around '99 to -, well, now? Maybe I'm just getting to be an old geezer but I can't think of one new artist to come out since 2002 that's been any good at all.

Prove me wrong!

FtotheDoubleOff wrote: Seriously, was there a worse period of music then around '99 to -, well, now?

Yeah, it was 88-90. Seriously, how many GOOD albums came out then? Nothing but hair band ballads and boy band crap. Even the good bands were passing off shite at that time.

I'm on a roll here so:

Arctic Monkeys - have only heard a couple songs, but honestly dont think there's anything remarkable there whatsoever

Franz Ferdinand - make me sick. I've tried listening to them with an open mind but I dont like them at all.

My Chemical Romance / Fall Out Boy - do I even need to say anything? OK, they may not be the stereotypical emo bands everyone says they are but that doesn't mean they're any good. Completely derivative.

Coldplay - Couple good tunes but genereally boring as fuck. Dont count anyway as they came out in 2001 didnt they?

Modest Mouse - Great band, but they're not new. They were making impact in '97, but only in the mainstream recently.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs - they're good. Hey I thought of one!

C.S.S. - I like them a lot but a lot of folks just despise them. Dont think they have staying power.

Ladytron - Great, but disqualified. Came out in 2000.

Lily Allen - she's alright, I guess. THat's two!

MIA - overrated.

New Pornographers - think they're good, but dont think they're new..?

I've been hearing about the Klaxons so I'll have to check them out.

I would say yes; but that is due to I mostly still only listen to bands that were around in the 80's. I also don't think that music from the 80's will ever die. You still hear a lot of it in movies and TV shows.

Psy

I feel quite strong about this,mainly having bias as it was my era,but I genuinely feel that the '80's did have the best music & most originality,plus longevity too.These days,bands have either nicked somebody else's sound completely where I hear something & think,'I've heard that before',or have only one decent idea,can't follow up their 'era defining 1st album' & last 5 minutes then disappear.Look at the wealth of quality,original & different sounding bands from the '80's...N.O.,ACR,Cocteaus,Cabs,Jesus & Mary Chain,Bunnymen,Smiths,Mondays,Cure,Banshees,PIL,....just to name a few favourites,everyone will have their own I'm sure,but in my honest opinion,modern day music does not stand upto it.& yes,I do now sound like my dad ( '60's etc. )

It seems like half of today's music samples stuff from the 70's or 80's.

The Good: New Order/Joy Division (LWTUA only, but it seems to qualify alot as an 80s band), The Cure, U2, Rush, Scorpions, Van Halen, Danzig, Duran Duran, Nine Inch Nails, Slayer, Tom Petty, Supertramp, The Police.

The Bad: Wham!, Rick Astley, A-ha, most of the one-hit-wonders, like say, Kajagogo or whatever the hell they were called.

The Ugly: Culture Club.

So Bad It's Almost Good: Zlad!

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

if there is a God, I will pray to him that you rot in hell for that one Mr. Owens!!!

Come on Jeff. How can you not love that slap bass?

I read your stuff wow how many of you's is still in to the 80's music oh ya I remember Blondie I wasn't picky with the songs and bands in the era in some music stores here there is cds with all the 80's music I am planning to get them not too mention here in Toronto on the Chum Fm station on Sundays they always play the lost 80's music and they continue to do so.:)

Missy

FtotheDoubleOff wrote: I think why the 80's usually gets a bad rap:

In the 60s and 70s the best music was played while the crap was forgotten.

In the 80s the worst music was played while the best music was mostly ignored.

Prove me wrong!

from this i'd say you grew up in the 80's. & the music being played from the 70's & 60's was the stuff that survived the test of time & the rubbish (popular chart music generally) was not played so much. these days the 80's music played on the radio tends to be far better than the 80's music that was played in the 80's

every decade gets shit music played on the radio.

no decade really stands out as being the best for me, i actually (for once) agree with liams first post on this thread - there are lots of very very good bands out there now, just as there were in the nineties and the eighties. you just need to have an open mind

its far easier to hear music you've not heard before now though.

by the way, blondie were formed in august 1974 from the remnants of debbies previous band, the stilettos. their first album (on private stock records) was released in dec 1976. anyione else got a copy of the private stock release?

their first four albums came out in 1976 1977 1978 & 1979

first 80's album was autoamerican. hardly one of their best. & that was followed with the hunter & their demise.

not really an eighties band.

hibster wrote: by the way, blondie were formed in august 1974 from the remnants of debbies previous band, the stilettos. their first album (on private stock records) was released in dec 1976. anyione else got a copy of the private stock release?

their first four albums came out in 1976 1977 1978 & 1979

first 80's album was autoamerican. hardly one of their best. & that was followed with the hunter & their demise.

not really an eighties band.

You are splitting hairs. To me any music released in the 80s is 80s music.

I still dance like Simon Le Bon after sinking a shot in a pickup basketball game or in the aisle of the grocery store when something good is on sale or in the stands during intermission of an ultimate fighting match.

Well apart from New Order, Art of Noise and Propaganda, the 80's were a time of unmitigated pish.....nina, timmy mallet, kylie, SONIA, the rise of U2.

I tend to punch people who, depsite being 6 in 1990 say "ooooh the 80's was so cool". No, no it wasn't it was a shrill and annoying decade of water-weak tunes and retarded fashions. And Goths!

Still like the odd Duran Duran tune too I suppose.

BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Yes. Most creative and experimental decade of music ever. End Of.

NOOLigan wrote:

hibster wrote: by the way, blondie were formed in august 1974 from the remnants of debbies previous band, the stilettos. their first album (on private stock records) was released in dec 1976. anyione else got a copy of the private stock release?

their first four albums came out in 1976 1977 1978 & 1979

first 80's album was autoamerican. hardly one of their best. & that was followed with the hunter & their demise.

not really an eighties band.

You are splitting hairs. To me any music released in the 80s is 80s music.

ispo facto all the decent blondie releases were in the 70's. QED

Doctor? wrote: BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Uh, no. That is the way centuries work. The 21st century began on 1 January, 2001. Decades are different. By definition, the 1980's began 1 January, 1980, not 1981. You'd be correct in saying, though, that decade #199 began 1 January, 1981. However, the 1980's, they did begin in 1980, just as their very name suggests.

[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote:

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Shellshocker wrote:

Doctor? wrote: BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Uh, no. That is the way centuries work. The 21st century began on 1 January, 2001. Decades are different. By definition, the 1980's began 1 January, 1980, not 1981. You'd be correct in saying, though, that decade #199 began 1 January, 1981. However, the 1980's, they did begin in 1980, just as their very name suggests.

Yes, but it's the same with decades too. Think about it....since the year 2000 was in the 20th century, it must be in the 1990's. Never mind my silly argument above, it really IS that way.

Oi, the stuff I grew up trying to sing along to as a kid...

New Order Joy Division [eh, 'Substance', anyone?] The Human League Alphaville Front 242 [yes, the godfathers of industrial music] Visage Depeche Mode The Smiths/Morrissey Electronic [yes, Elec-fookin'-tronic] Berlin [and definitely not that 'Take My Breath Away' crap either!!! ] The Stone Roses Siouxsie and the Banshees Ministry [their EARLY stuff] Bauhaus/Peter Murphy Heaven 17 And lest I forget, the Eurythmics!

...man how I wish I could relive those days. Chuffed to podge.

Doctor? wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Doctor? wrote: BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Uh, no. That is the way centuries work. The 21st century began on 1 January, 2001. Decades are different. By definition, the 1980's began 1 January, 1980, not 1981. You'd be correct in saying, though, that decade #199 began 1 January, 1981. However, the 1980's, they did begin in 1980, just as their very name suggests.

Yes, but it's the same with decades too. Think about it....since the year 2000 was in the 20th century, it must be in the 1990's. Never mind my silly argument above, it really IS that way.

No, decades and centuries are different. I don't know why you think they are intrinsically linked in their definitions. Centuries are different because we start with the year 1, not the year 0. Do you think 30 is the last number in the 20's?? Is someone 30 years old still in their 20's?? But if you don't agree now, you probably never will, so I guess I won't bother arguing any further.

GreenBlueGrey wrote: Yes. Most creative and experimental decade of music ever. End Of.

Agree too

Doctor? wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Doctor? wrote: BTW, Joy Division did not release any records in the 1980's.

Why does NOBODY have the mildest clue how their calendar works, I must be the only person who paid any attention at school.

The 1980's ran from 01/01/1981, to 31/12/1990

Uh, no. That is the way centuries work. The 21st century began on 1 January, 2001. Decades are different. By definition, the 1980's began 1 January, 1980, not 1981. You'd be correct in saying, though, that decade #199 began 1 January, 1981. However, the 1980's, they did begin in 1980, just as their very name suggests.

Yes, but it's the same with decades too. Think about it....since the year 2000 was in the 20th century, it must be in the 1990's. Never mind my silly argument above, it really IS that way.

He's right you know, as Wiki states:

"the first decade of the 20th century indicates a period from January 1, 1901 until December 31, 1910."

Nick King wrote:

He's right you know, as Wiki states:

"the first decade of the 20th century indicates a period from January 1, 1901 until December 31, 1910."

That's the first decade of the 20th century. I don't deny that. But using the term "the 1980's" is not the same thing. Yes, the eighth decade of the 20th century begins January 1, 1981. I agree with that. However, the 1980's is not the exact same thing as the either decade of the 20th century. Again, like I said, that's like saying that someone who is 30 is still in their 20's. To summarize:

The eighth decade of the 20th century indicates a period from January 1, 1981 until December 31, 1990.

The 1980's is a period from January 1, 1980 until December 31, 1989.

wow. out of control. 80's music is that which was made when there is a 1-9-8 in the calendar year. i don't recall any 80s music being made in 1990. but the clash did put out london calling in 1979... still.

the 80s saw the expansion of what punk created. i'm not talking about sound (although that's part of it), i'm talking about the business. in the 60s and 70s, the "underground" was a local or, at best, regional phenomenom. little record labels would put out little records with little distribution. punk changed that, in theory, but it took a few years for the theory to become reality. but when it did...

suddenly you didn't need a big record label with a huge distribution network. the underground had connected itself, and it was worldwide. if you didn't need a big record company to pay for your distribution, you could put out whatever you wanted. for the first time, barring a few 60s and 70s mavericks, musicians were in control, not businessmen. quality of music trumped quantity of sales. the climate changed. if you made a really great album, but it was a bit uncommercial (or whatever the big record labels deemed "uncommercial,") people could still hear it.

punk was the best thing that happened to music, not because it stripped rock back down to the core, not because it did away with prog-rock (prog rock survived handily), but because it changed the way the business worked. it opened it up with dramatic results.

80s music is the first flowering of this freedom. so it was whacked out. and that's why 80s music rocks: cuz it's whacked.

I was born after the 80's and there is no music better than it. Especially compared to the s**t on the radio nowdays....