Just back from the show, GREAT GREAT, the band was super happy, beautifull version of Ceremony, BLT, Temptation...& Digital !
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Originally posted by Julien Richet-Cooper Just back from the show, GREAT GREAT, the band was super happy, beautifull version of Ceremony, BLT, Temptation...& Digital !
WAS IT A FULL HOUSE....TELL US MORE ABOUT THE GIG
Originally posted by Julien Richet-Cooper Just back from the show, GREAT GREAT, the band was super happy, beautifull version of Ceremony, BLT, Temptation...& Digital !
Where is Here to Stay and Techinique songs?
Got the set list from Jarvo by text about 11 pm last night:
Crystal Transmission Regret Ceremony 60 Miles an Hour Atmosphere Brutal Close Range She's Lost Control Bizarre Love Triangle True Faith Temptation Love Will Tear Us Apart
Encore:
Digital Rock The Shack Blue Monday Your Silent Face
Seems like a good set with one or two surprises thrown in for good measure but equally surprising, no Here To Stay. Maybe they're saving that for Finsbury or Old Trafford.
Also heard from the Livster who apparently was scaring the shit out of the Hookmeister by exposing her considerable mammaries to him at every opportunity, and Cheeky Monkey who kissed Phil Cunningham and got a signed t-shirt. No doubt many tales of wanton debauchery will follow in the days ahead, hopefully!!
"Brutal"???!!!??! "Digital"??!!???!!??! Liv's tits!!??!!??!! Who says the Order live experience was getting predictable???? Pity no reprise for AOC etc., and I wish they hadn't dropped "Lurve Vigilantes", but am starting to get really excited about the summer dates now!!!
Wonder what jaded arch-cynic El Jarvo's got to say about all this......????
wahaay!! and a round of applause for Close Range :D
I voted for that on the Grrrready poll as well great stuff!
A few nice changes although Technique material would have been nice as would something other than BLT off Brotherhood and of course no PK :( but hey its seeming good!
Now roll on the reviews from the NOnline attendies i say :D
Forgive me for being less than impressed. I was really hoping for a shake up in the set but as far as I can see there's only three changes to the last batch of shows and worse still it's the same f'ing running order!
Where's Here To Stay or even World In Motion? Why nothing whatsoever off Technique? Why Brutal, it's pish. And I can't get excited about Barney singing She's Lost Control or Digital.
Lazy Bastards. Think I'll just drink myself blind at Finsbury. Poor show lads, poor show.
Originally posted by Grahame Ferguson Forgive me for being less than impressed. I was really hoping for a shake up in the set but as far as I can see there's only three changes to the last batch of shows and worse still it's the same f'ing running order!Where's Here To Stay or even World In Motion? Why nothing whatsoever off Technique? Why Brutal, it's pish. And I can't get excited about Barney singing She's Lost Control or Digital.Lazy Bastards. Think I'll just drink myself blind at Finsbury. Poor show lads, poor show.
WELL SAID...ONLY SLIGHT VARIATIONS SMACKS OF LAZINESS...IT CANT BE TOO HARD TO CHANGE..CAN IT???
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER NOT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE PLAYED AS IN THE OLD DAYS NOT EVEN NEW ORDER EVER KNEW WHAT WAS GOIN TO GO DOWN.NOW EVERYTHING IS LIKE XMAS WHEN YOU KNOW THAT SANTA IS YOUR DAD/MUM/FAMILY. ROCKET REGRET
...so, any comments on the "new" tracks played ???
How was "Brutal" ??? Did they re-work the Joy Division-Tracks like the they did on "Isolation" ??? Was "She's Lost Control" a guitar-only version or with the keyboard-line from the 12" ??? How was "Digital" ???
Cheers :D
Awww, come on: they didn't play "WIM" 'cos the gig was in bloody Paris. HTS they presumably just haven't learned to play live, but, y'know, have faith: the set may be a little different come 9/02. But you're right about "Brutal" - its a crock of shit.
But the last thing you'd expect 'em to play, right?? Did we get "The Vikings", BTW??
Originally posted by Marco Pleil ...so, any comments on the "new" tracks played ???How was "Brutal" ???Did they re-work the Joy Division-Tracks like the they did on "Isolation" ???Was "She's Lost Control" a guitar-only version or with the keyboard-line from the 12" ???How was "Digital" ???Cheers :D
Brutal was too slow and oversaturated. Definitely not worth it, I mean in concert. Digital was very good, and Barney's weak voice was compensated by Hooky singing together with him. Great moment, although most people seemed not to know this song.
Did they play "Brutal" completely live? Without any strings or beats from DAT ???
Somehow i can't really imagine how this one could sound live...
cheers. ;)
Nah, I'm sorry, the set at Finsbury will almost defineately be exactly the same with the possible addition of WIM. Don't get me wrong, it'll be a great day out but it's now patently obvious that they're just going through the motions.
Finsbury along with the other half dozen festival shows look like being their pension. I'll stake my house on never seeing another album or live show after this summer. Which to be honest is probably a good time to quit anyway.
You may well be right Grahame.....mind you some bloke on the WIM site reckons he spoke to Barney after the show who told him they were startng work on a new album in October
The lack of 'Here to Stay' in the set and B.L.T. and True Faith still being in are a major disappointment and shows they're not in the least bit interested in any feedback from the fans.
half agree Hank, but I think in reality if you asked every fan coming through the turnstiles at the gig, the majority would probably hope for BLT and True Faith to be played, and personally, I quite like TF being in the setlist (not keen on the BLT version mind you).
Would certainly have liked to have seen HTS in the setlist though.
I reckon the problem with those same setlists every night is only a problem for us here and for people like Jarvo.
I mean, most of the people who go to their gigs don't know what they've played before.
I was dissapointed with the performance.
She's Lost Control was horrible. Brutal was sounding OK. BLT was was weak shite. Blue Monday was boring.
The crowd was not very excited except in front of Hooky. The band was not in a good shape, and Hook got technical problems.
The venue was sounding very very bad.
Time to give it a rest, New Order.
Originally posted by Buster Klumpy I reckon the problem with those same setlists every night is only a problem for us here and for people like Jarvo.I mean, most of the people who go to their gigs don't know what they've played before.
You're absolutely right. I guess there's very little of those die-hard-fans (like us) who go to those gigs. Remember, there should also be the audience that "only" knows the GetReady-album and perhaps a few singles. So i guess if NewOrder would play a "rarest of"set most of the people would be pissed.
I'm really sick of seeing Blue Monday and Temptation in the set, but it's nice to see, that they put in some rarities like "brutal", "digital" and "she's lost control".
cheers 
N21 I TAKE IT YOU WHERE MAD FOR IT.HELL I JUST TAKE LOADS OF TABLETS WHEN I GET SO DOWN.WORSE STILL WHEN THINGS GET REALLY BAD I GO AND WATCH ALICE COOPER LIVE.NOW THAT DOES CHEER ME UP.I RECENTLY SAW LOU REED AT THE ROYAL ALBERT HALL ,BRILLIANT GIG BUT THE FUCKER ONLY SAID ABOUT 2 WORDS ALL EVENING.NOW WHEN YOU SEE BARNEY GIVING US A NEW ROUTINE IT MAKES YOU WANT TO START A NEW BAND... STEPS TO THE DISCO BEAT. SERIOUSLY I PROBABLY AM BLIND TO THE LIMITATIONS BUT I FOUND AS YOU GET OLDER YOU DO MELLOW,CHILL OUT AND GET LAZY. ROCKET CANT CUT IT LIVE NOMORE EXCEPT AT THE PUB MICK
It's certainly worth pointing out that the band are only playing Blue Monday coz they know they'd get whinged at by the less hardcore NO fans if they didn't.
I'm waiting for the reviews of our esteemed buddies such as Jarvo,Liv, Johnny G etc before I pass further judgement
Hey Travelling Wilburys- where are your in-depth reviews?
Seek out terminals, El Jarvo, Johnny G, Micky, Liz & co.. We want Chris Z-esque minutiae accounts of the trip. We want to hear everything from whether Barney's still donning the tiger-stripe adidas, to how much was a half-pint of Kronenburg, to whether Gilesy was in key for the Temptation singalong.
OK maybe not, but we eagerly await your reports.
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I was under the impression that the Order didn't have "casual" fans anymore: aren't they a cult act again, playing only for the devoted. Hence, HTS straight-in-straight-out of the charts.....
GRIGORI....PRACTICE DRINKING BEER.WHAT A TREMENDOUS IDEA. I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS B4.BLOODY GREAT IDEA.WILL PONDER THIS TONIGHT WHILST SAT IN "THE BLOB SHOP". ROCKET MAKE MINE A DOUBLE MICK
"jaded arch-cynic El Jarvo"? Moi?
Not gonna write too much cos a tad exhausted after a somewhat 'punishing' weekend away, and after me and Mad Darren attempted to drink the Eurostar dry coming back this 'arvo. And there's little to add really other than that we all, aside from just the gig itself, had One Helluva Time in the City of Luurv. I'm sure I speak for everyone there. Cracking weekend.
Don't wanna sound like a "jaded arch-cynic" but we knew the 'surprise' tracks in advance, so they didn't come as a surprise on the night. Only real shock was that they did that whole New-Order-by-Numbers set thing again and just replaced, rather than moved, tracks. I honestly thought they'd overhaul this somewhat. But there you go. C'est la vie. They're still the best band in the world, IMO.
Seems that most Brits seemed to find 'emselves dead centre of the gig, even all the girlies, as it wasn't toooo manic down the front. Indeed, the Parisians seemed more up for the JD stuff than any of the actual Order tracks. And, the 'excited' crowd in front of Hooky was one Jim Reilly doing a stirling job, all by himself, climbing over anyone in his way and handing Hooky a HELLO HOOKY Cross of St George (apparently he was even giving a huge shout for the Order during the Doves set too, as Hooky was watching from the wings!). Well played that man.
Well played 'Steve Brotherdale' too for getting twenty of us backstage for afters. Nice one, mate. Shame Jim missed out on that one. Ooof, hope I ain't touched too raw a nerve there! ;)
Regards to everyone who attended, especially Pitch who I met for the very first time. Glad you liked your pressie, mate.
Oh, and don't expect Perfect Kiss this summer. Appears it ain't happening, though a couple of other tracks are 'in reserve' for the festivals, but it don't take a genius to guess which two they are.
