Curious to know which one I should try and get a copy of. I want to get one that's not chock full of mistakes and also one that gives a fair amount of attention to the songwriting process and recording sessions--or are they all about the Hacienda?
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None of them have any info about songwriting or recording - because the band have never participated in any of the books. Hooky's autobiography may change that when it comes out.
Almost ALL the books have mistakes, some far more than others. It's idiosyncratic with JD/NO 
True Faith covers the records better than anything else, cannae remember the lad's name who put it together.
From Joy Division to New Order is probably my favourite book. Mick Middles did that one.
If yer more of a JD fan, Ideal For Living (Mark Johnson I think) is alright, you have to wade through some shite to get to the good bits though 
I am currently reading the making of Unknown Pleasures, ma mate Malky picked it up fer £3 at HMV! From what I've read already it's a helluva bargain.
oldmonkey wrote: None of them have any info about songwriting or recording - because the band have never participated in any of the books. Hooky's autobiography may change that when it comes out.
Is there a release date for Hookys book? I get the impression Hookys alot more open about the workings of New Order than the other members.
ShugZViking wrote: I am currently reading the making of Unknown Pleasures, ma mate Malky picked it up fer £3 at HMV! From what I've read already it's a helluva bargain.
not sure if this is what Shug is referring to above, but Chris Ott's contribution to the 33-1/3 series on Unknown Pleasures has more info about recording sessions and such than others, but is solely focused on that album. It is pretty good, and cheap/available.
The True Faith Armchair Guide is by Dave Thompson, and it does deal hit and miss with recording/sessions stuff -- pretty much when he thinks it's interesting or doesn't have anything else to write about.
Never seen anything about their songwriting process -- though there is some stuff in Story to draw from.
I do find Thompson's book the most useful in the sense that it is an "objective" (however much that's even possible -- maybe strightforward is a better word) look at the things (songs,albums,etc) themselves.
It's not the Chris Ott Unkown Pleasures book mate, I have already read that one....quite a good read.
Will check that new book when I get home for more details.....ma memory is mince
oldmonkey wrote: None of them have any info about songwriting or recording - because the band have never participated in any of the books. Hooky's autobiography may change that when it comes out.
Ermmmmmm Given a certain, oft quoted, conversation that occurred in the wings at NOOLday, just how likely do you think that is? :D
BTW, SLIGHTLY related and not worth it's own thread. Does anyone remember Roger's Ebay ID, I want to add him to me sellers in case no one mentions the next batch here. There was one piece of kit I had a beady eye on, but slept in, the auction ended and the bugger was unsold. Must confess I was shocked that no one else worked out just what it was.
the mick middles book is a really good read it ends just after republic but is well worth a dabble, i heard some bloke on revolution radio being inteviewed who was doinga book on barney, does anybody know whats happened to that?
Doctor? wrote:
oldmonkey wrote: None of them have any info about songwriting or recording - because the band have never participated in any of the books. Hooky's autobiography may change that when it comes out.
Ermmmmmm Given a certain, oft quoted, conversation that occurred in the wings at NOOLday, just how likely do you think that is? :D
BTW, SLIGHTLY related and not worth it's own thread. Does anyone remember Roger's Ebay ID, I want to add him to me sellers in case no one mentions the next batch here. There was one piece of kit I had a beady eye on, but slept in, the auction ended and the bugger was unsold. Must confess I was shocked that no one else worked out just what it was.
It's "pismoed"
gmex88 wrote: i heard some bloke on revolution radio being inteviewed who was doinga book on barney, does anybody know whats happened to that?
There's a book on Barney? Fook me!
oldmonkey wrote:
gmex88 wrote: i heard some bloke on revolution radio being inteviewed who was doinga book on barney, does anybody know whats happened to that?
There's a book on Barney? Fook me!
MMMMMmust fight urge to mention 1963.
PS ta
marcus mee wrote: Best book is a lesser known one called "Dreams Never End" by Claude Flowers.
what kind of name is claude flowers?that sounds like some dark weird chemical coming to get ya thing going on there...nevermind...i have a weird imagination apparantly..
Currently reading Simon Reynolds' Rip it up and Start it Over (?) Postpunk 1978-1984. New Order gets a page but has some Steve quotes about the Movement sessions. Says that the best thing about recording that lp was Hannet teaching them how to work the mixing board. Hannet's mistake!
