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Not well by all acounts. I'd heard he had taken a turn for the worse in the last few days!

YNWA Tony.

Matt.

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Get Well Soon, Sir Wilson! :nod:

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And not a great story to go with it :nonono: A lifelong Socialist being kicked in the teeth by the far from Socialist current govenment :nonono: Well done to Nathan McGough and everyone who's helping him out :nod:

Hope you beat it, AHW :)

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El Jarvo wrote: Get Well Soon, Sir Wilson! :nod:

Agreed :nod:

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The NHS sound like a right bunch of bastards.

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GET WELL again soon TONY.:thumb:

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NOOLigan wrote: The NHS sound like a right bunch of bastards.

A woefully underfunded bunch of 'bastards', surely?

Keep on keepin' on, Tone.

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RichShan wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: Get Well Soon, Sir Wilson! :nod:

Agreed :nod:

:nod:

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This whole postcode lottery is a disgrace. When my old man had his heart attack 3 years ago he had to get fitted with a defibulator to keep his ticker from going off at a weird rate.

A bloke he works beside needs the same thing but because it costs £20K to fit and maintain and he live sunder a different NHS Trust he can't get one. A disgrace. Especially when, as Wilson stated, there's funding available for so many cosmetic procedures these days.

Would it perhaps be an idea to get a donations function added to the homepage here for ol' Tone? I'd happily contribute a few quid to this instead of another bloody Community album!

Over to you Spotnick....

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a new order benefit concert?

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GlasVegas wrote:

Would it perhaps be an idea to get a donations function added to the homepage here for ol' Tone?

Aye, I'm sure there are plenty on here who would gladly contribute a bob or two :thumb:

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was on the news that the happy mondays amongst other freinds are contributing to his £3500.00 a month treatment

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get well soon y'twat

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This is so sad. Tony, I pray you get well soon!

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get well soon Tony :thumb:

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Too right Tony should rail against NHS over the very idea of cosmetic surgery being done at taxpayer's expense. That cancer drug deserves to be more available.

Anyhow, chin up Tony:thumb:

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Actually, if anyone is reading this that has details of the fund (ie how we can contribute to it) then it would be good if they could let us know.

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Old Blue wrote: Actually, if anyone is reading this that has details of the fund (ie how we can contribute to it) then it would be good if they could let us know.

Quite right.There are enough people on this board who i'm sure wouldn't mind chipping in a few quid.He has, after all had a hand in giving us some of the best music the world has ever heard over the past 30 years.

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My stepdad is dying of cancer at the moment (I'm not being morbid, he has Myloma which is incurable) and watching Wilson on Newsnight the other night was wierd because you could see that the treatment and the illness has done the same to Wilson as it has to my stepdad; made them frail old men.

That being said, most of it is the treatment because it is so aggressive (especially when the cancer was as far advanced as Wilson's obviously was).

The smallest thing can make someone take a huge turn for the worse, but to be honest if you've got cancer then you are still top of the list for treatment in any NHS hospital, and I reckon this isn't the last chapter of the Wilson story. Just yet.

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Knew a good friend of mine who beat cancer the first time. Second time around, however, she lost to it. But she never went down without a good strong fight, and even stronger faith. I know she's watchin' over Tony right now, I'm sure of it.

Same with my great-grandmother [RIP Ana-Julia '83]; cancer took her before I even came on this earth to know her. And as Melly said the first time Tony was fighting this:

melly wrote: :nonono: It really doesn't discriminate as a disease, does it?

Again, in agreement. It took great-grandma, took my friend Terri. Took lives of those we may have known and loved. And it could even get one of our own here. :nonono: There has to be a way to stop it.

God bless, Tony, and kick that cancer in the ass, Sir! :thumb: All the best from the S-TO.

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ShugZViking wrote:

RichShan wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: Get Well Soon, Sir Wilson! :nod:

Agreed :nod:

:nod:

I'll add another :nod: to that

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My Father and the NHS beat his Cancer. I hope Tony gets well soon.

Why is it we can find Billions to bomb Iraq to bits but Cancer treatment is mainly funded by charity?

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Crew Member of Space Ship Earth wrote: Why is it we can find Billions to bomb Iraq to bits but Cancer treatment is mainly funded by charity?

Alas, a sad reality. :nonono: Said billions that could've gone to a better cause.

Well said there, Digi Sir. :nod:

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Crew Member of Space Ship Earth wrote: My Father and the NHS beat his Cancer. I hope Tony gets well soon.

Why is it we can find Billions to bomb Iraq to bits but Cancer treatment is mainly funded by charity?

don't know about the UK, but for the States, this might be the answer to your question:

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Really sad to hear that he's still so poorly.

Get well soon Tony :nod:

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old lead foot wrote: get well soon y'twat

yeah.

nhs twats

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I've just seen AW on North West Tonight and heard his story and just how shite the Manchester Primary Care Trust are when it comes to helping those most in need suffering from Kidney Cancer. Thankfully Tonys got some kind and wealthy pals prepared to fork out to pay for the drug, Sutent, that he requires to keep him going (touch wood) for the foreseeable but obviously there'll be folks in need who haven't got that. So what I've just thought of is this: A sponsored jog / saunter / drag of yer ass around somewhere like Heaton Park, Manchester with all those takin' part wearing a t-shirt of a band associated with Our Tone' down the years. Imagine a couple of thousand Happy Mondays, New Order, Vini Reilly, Smiths, Stockholm Monsters, The Other 2 etc t-shirts bombing about Heaton Park to raise some money and awareness for kidney cancer? It'd be top and pretty worthwhile. Few beers afterwards in The Woodthorpe? Oh yes. I've been in touch with the James Whale Kidney Cancer Fund to see what the bob moore is but if you'd like to register your interest in the mean time send me a message on here or leave a comment on me myspace or summat. Cheers, Steve.

http://www.myspace.com/vinceprinceiii

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I'm good for a month, To :nod:

This has knocked me for half a dozen. I feel sick.

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There's something just wrong about a man like Wilson being threatened by such a sneaky thing as his own cells tryin to do him in. I'm glad I didn't see the reports, when my friend had a tumour at the back of his nose/mouth (which he beat ultimately), he looked a bit ill for a while, until they diagnosed it and treated it, then he looked FUCKED! He told me once "Cancer's a doddle, the treatment's a wanker".

Whatever I can do to help should be considered done, and I think I speak for all of us, even the ones who think he's a twat.

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'Mr Manchester' was on Granada Reports tonight talking to Gordon Burns.He didn't look well to be honest.Sad.Was a bit gutted.Get better soon Tony:( :bow:

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Matt Hicks wrote: manchestereveningnews Not well by all acounts. I'd heard he had taken a turn for the worse in the last few days!

YNWA Tony. Matt.

:nod: Well said ..Through the Wind, walk on through the Rain. Though your dreams be tossed and Blown. YNWA.. You'll Ne- ever walk alone. Cheers for all the work. It's touched the Globe right 'round.

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get better tony!

can i be honest with you guys without being booted.and i'm serious.but he does look bad guys and maybe its just me but i don't think he'll be here too much longer.i know everyone wants the cancer to go away.but that shit is hard to beat.i wish for him to beat this...how old is tony anyway,not that it has anything to do with much...

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Prayers with you Tony.

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*Animadversion* wrote: how old is tony anyway,not that it has anything to do with much...

He's 57... :\ohwell:

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Young for *some* types of cancer...........

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Get well, Tony.

Sad that such people fall sick. :(

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oh wow...57 is really not all that old.you may feel old but compared to someone who is ninety something,thats nothing.probably.

this just breaks my heart to hear...

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Get well soon.:nod: :thumb:

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I didn't see Granada Reports but I read the early edition of the Manchester Evening News,and was shocked to learn that was our Tone stood next to Leonard Cohen. A bit upsetting to say the least,all the more to learn that the Solent drug might cut him about 11 months of slack. My prayers are with you mate.

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Be good if we could all contribute in some way. He's given us enough. Best wishes & good luck Tony.

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get well soon, Mr. Wilson.

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Dear Twat,

Keeping your recovery in my prayers. Too young too die.

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Crew Member of Space Ship Earth wrote: My Father and the NHS beat his Cancer. I hope Tony gets well soon.

Why is it we can find Billions to bomb Iraq to bits but Cancer treatment is mainly funded by charity?

Correct,This is England,home to millions of immigrants/refugees bleeding the state dry,a pointles "war" that'l end in fuckin tears AND civil war anyway and we cant even look after the people,our own people that have made this/our country as great as it is,is it great,is it fuck its shit. Were fucked over by the governers of this country from birth till death..........

:nuts:

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Get well... Sooner rather than later, but I suppose the speed of the recovery doesn't matter, as long as there is ultimately a recovery...

Snorri xxx

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Tell it like it is, Tony!

We all hope you make it, but regardless of the outcome you've got to stick it to the idiots running this country, and you're better placed to do that than a lot of poor sods in the same situation.

It's been said above, but I'm saying it again:

HOW CAN WE AFFORD BILLIONS FOR A WAR THAT NOBODY WANTS?

Gordon Brown found the money for the bloody mess in Iraq, and we need to make him accountable for it now that he's moved next door.

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Get well soon Tony.

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All the best Mr Wilson, Manchester's answer to the man upstairs. :bow:

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Incidentally, political commentator Paul Linford is also a fan of New Order and Happy Mondays, and has interrupted normal service to highlight the truly ironic angle of this story in his blog:

http://paullinford.blogspot.com/

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ShugZViking wrote:

RichShan wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: Get Well Soon, Sir Wilson! :nod:

Agreed :nod:

:nod:

:nod:

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There seems to be a fair few folk on here who would be happy to make a contribution, financially. I've always felt that giving because your asked isn't the best way to contribute to charity. Giving because it's something or someone you care about should be what it's all about. Is there anyone from the site who could stick a Paypal donate button up on the homepage?

It would be a nice gesture for the man but remember that at the end of the day a gesture is all it would be. I'm sure Mr W. would prefer it if folk actually got political and did something about the fucked up situation he finds himself in and the people who are ultimately responsible for it.

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Good Luck Tony.

I'll chip in aswell if we can do anything to help the man.

The whole thing is a disgrace,when we are all taxed to the bollocks to provide some sort of safety net called the NHS,for if and when we may need some help or treatment...

They keep stealing it for bombs and the like,obviously... We should smash their fuckin heads in..Thieves

We could vote them out next election,but the scum Tories are much,much worse unfortunately..System is fucking wrong and we all know it.Fucked

Prayers with you Mr Wilson

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Get well soon Tony. Heard all the twat stories but have to say when I met him found him a good fella.

Happy to donate time or money.

YNWA

Dave

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The very fact that there are such drugs at all is the result of a great deal of Government, private and charity money going into research. This country leads the world in cancer research, and many forms of cancer which were once a death sentence are now curable as a result of the hard work of British scientists. New treatments are becoming available that can prolong and improve the quality of life for people beyond anything that could previously be imagined.

Sadly, this all comes at a massive financial cost, and there is not a limitless supply of cash. It is the job of the people that run the NHS to decide where to allocate resources and they are always going to receive critisism from those who feel that they're not getting enough of the pie.

Another inevitable conclusion of the improvement in diagnosis and treatment of illness is that people live longer. This means that the available resources are spread over a larger, older population.

It's a complete fucker that the NHS can't step in and cure everything that's wrong with them, especially when it's someone that we feel is important to us. But, as GlasVegas says, we need a more informed and intelegent debate than just pointing the finger around at the authority figures.

To accuse the NHS and the UK Government of lacking in effort in the detection and treatment of cancer is frankly insulting to the people who have devoted their lives to this important field.

Do some reading and find out what you're talking about. Here's a good start...

ICR Homepage

The way they are funded

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Just so you know, I have lost several people who were close to me to cancer, and a member of my family works in the research field so I have seen this from both ends.

I recently went to a graduation ceremony at ICR and was really humbled at hearing at the work they do there. All of the graduands could earn far more money in other fields, but to a man (actually they were mostly women) they had all chosen to stay in cancer research in some way or other, using their skills to advance the cause.

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BIGINOIL wrote: Just so you know, I have lost several people who were close to me to cancer, and a member of my family works in the research field so I have seen this from both ends.

I recently went to a graduation ceremony at ICR and was really humbled at hearing at the work they do there. All of the graduands could earn far more money in other fields, but to a man they had all chosen to stay in cancer research in some way or other, using their skills to advance the cause.

*my hugs and sympathies to the Oilman*

:viking:

And thousand thanks for shedding the light on this matter, mate. :)

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Shite story indeed. Hope Tony beats it. Pay attention to the picture though - is that a fag in his hand? :nono: Nice touch to his plight and plea... :confused2:

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GlasVegas wrote: Is there anyone from the site who could stick a Paypal donate button up on the homepage?

Or, anyone who knows how to contact Nathan McGough ? - he seems to be behind the collection so hopefully he could tell us where to send our cash.

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fac443 wrote: Shite story indeed. Hope Tony beats it. Pay attention to the picture though - is that a fag in his hand? :nono: Nice touch to his plight and plea... :confused2:

Yes, if it is, it would show he's paid 10,000 times more money to the health service than a non smoker.

(I don't even know if Tony smokes TBH)

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All the best...get well soon mate.

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BIGINOIL wrote: The very fact that there are such drugs at all is the result of a great deal of Government, private and charity money going into research. This country leads the world in cancer research, and many forms of cancer which were once a death sentence are now curable as a result of the hard work of British scientists. New treatments are becoming available that can prolong and improve the quality of life for people beyond anything that could previously be imagined.

Sadly, this all comes at a massive financial cost, and there is not a limitless supply of cash. It is the job of the people that run the NHS to decide where to allocate resources and they are always going to receive critisism from those who feel that they're not getting enough of the pie.

Another inevitable conclusion of the improvement in diagnosis and treatment of illness is that people live longer. This means that the available resources are spread over a larger, older population.

It's a complete fucker that the NHS can't step in and cure everything that's wrong with them, especially when it's someone that we feel is important to us. But, as GlasVegas says, we need a more informed and intelegent debate than just pointing the finger around at the authority figures.

To accuse the NHS and the UK Government of lacking in effort in the detection and treatment of cancer is frankly insulting to the people who have devoted their lives to this important field.

Do some reading and find out what you're talking about. Here's a good start...

ICR Homepage

The way they are funded

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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BIGINOIL wrote: To accuse the NHS and the UK Government of lacking in effort in the detection and treatment of cancer is frankly insulting to the people who have devoted their lives to this important field.

To be honest, I thought that the general gripe in this thread wasn't about what the government has spent on the NHS; rather what it could be spending there if it wasn't too busy killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Absolutely disgusting. Tony has basically had a major impact on Manchester - the music, the culture, and the way the city has evolved into a very 'trendy' (awful word, I know) place. Therefore bringing in a LOT of money from outside Manchester, into Manchester.

Yet they won't fund a drug which 'costs' £3500 a month (it doesn't ACTUALLY cost that much, it's just thats the price the pharmacy company CHARGES for it).

An insult to the great man - as he has had SO much influence into how Manchester has evolved. I wish him the best of health, and thank him for what he has done and how he has (perhaps indirectly) changed our lives.

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All the best Tony. :beer:

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David Gladwin wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote: To accuse the NHS and the UK Government of lacking in effort in the detection and treatment of cancer is frankly insulting to the people who have devoted their lives to this important field.

To be honest, I thought that the general gripe in this thread wasn't about what the government has spent on the NHS; rather what it could be spending there if it wasn't too busy killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Good fookin' point. Someone should tell the same thing to the Australian Liberal(read: Proto-Conservative)government while they aid and abet Bush & Co. in Iraq:angry:

Anyway Tony, as said before, I totally support your stand on cosmetic procedure costs coming out of NHS's limited coffers:thumb:

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I really hope Tony manages to beat the fucker, as the world is a better place with him here. Whatever people think of him (and i don't think any of the abuse thrown at him over the years is meant with any conviction), he has always been one of the most genuine and caring people in the music industry, and it's a shame there haven't been more like him.

Despite all the sadness surrounding the news of his health, and especially the total joke which is the NHS drug lottery, i can't help smiling at the irony of the Happy Mondays paying for Tony's drugs! How things have changed.

Get well soon Tony.

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Bill Holding wrote: I really hope Tony manages to beat the fucker, as the world is a better place with him here. Whatever people think of him (and i don't think any of the abuse thrown at him over the years is meant with any conviction), he has always been one of the most genuine and caring people in the music industry, and it's a shame there haven't been more like him.

Despite all the sadness surrounding the news of his health, and especially the total joke which is the NHS drug lottery, i can't help smiling at the irony of the Happy Mondays paying for Tony's drugs! How things have changed.

Get well soon Tony.

Ironic?! It's fookin' brilliant!!!:rofl:

Well put too,here,here:bow: :clap: :thumb:

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I'm a bit dissapointed that despite numerous people in this thread saying they would like to contribute to the fund which has been set up that nobody from the site has got round to setting up a simple Paypal donate feature on the homepage.

It would be a far more worthy gesture than presenting Hooky with a CD of dodgy New Order cover versions.

Any comments from the webmaster or the mods?

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The mods have no power here to do anything but delete messages. If I had the power to set such a feature up, believe me it would have been set up by now.

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oldmonkey wrote: The mods have no power here to do anything but delete messages. If I had the power to set such a feature up, believe me it would have been set up by now.

Can't we get Nic to sort something out? Even if all we managed to raise was a small amount of money towards one month's supply of drugs, that would be worthwhile, surely? :shrug:

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Even i would be up for parting with some cash and i dont often do that, also i liked the idea of some event like a walk/run in manchester then a piss up.

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kel wrote:

Bill Holding wrote: I really hope Tony manages to beat the fucker, as the world is a better place with him here. Whatever people think of him (and i don't think any of the abuse thrown at him over the years is meant with any conviction), he has always been one of the most genuine and caring people in the music industry, and it's a shame there haven't been more like him.

Despite all the sadness surrounding the news of his health, and especially the total joke which is the NHS drug lottery, i can't help smiling at the irony of the Happy Mondays paying for Tony's drugs! How things have changed.

Get well soon Tony.

Ironic?! It's fookin' brilliant!!!:rofl:

Well put too,here,here:bow: :clap: :thumb:

Seconded, thirded, whatever!! Amen to that!! :nod:

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Get well soon toneobloodyfuckinbastardgenius!

:nuts:

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tony, i once went out with a professor who told me he went to Cambs with you and you were quoth " a knob".

Anyway, I, as an avid hacienda girly circa 83 - 87 (i.e. before all the knob heads moved in) wish you all my best luck, all my best heart to you in your recovery.

You're a twat, but a loveable twat :-)

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Adam Tate wrote: The Daily Mail had a lengthy article on Tony's illness today - it is also available to read here online :-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=470533&in_page_id=1774&in_a_source=

..at least I now know why Vini Reilly has called one of the tracks on his new album "Interleuken-2".

Have they got Yvette Livesey's age right there? She's only 38?!

Blimey, Tone pulled her when she was 21!

Good Work Fella! :nod:

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Good point, Al :nod:

Who's got contact details for McGough then?

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Haven't we met somewhere?

Good idea: search the web instead of sitting around waiting for other people to :smoking:

I'll PM him and find out.

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It would seem plans for a fund raising "event" (i.e. gig!) organised by Wilson's many friends in the Manchester music scene is in the early stages of being planned for some time in early autumn.

Not for one second suggesting New Order as an enitity would be involved, but as individuals I'm sure they would be.

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