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Just listening to Barney, interviewed for the iTunes special release, where he says that 'Run Wild' should have been a single and that New Order really missed out there...

Was he on drugs of some kind while saying that?

Worst tracks New Order ever released (in order):

WIFM Run Wild Piss Stream

'Run Wild' sounds like something that even Electronic would have ditched in favour of at least a few average tracks. Thank goodness New Order didn't release 'Run Wild' and were good enough to leave it to the end of 'Get Ready' - at least I can just turn the album off after track 9...

:banghead:

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:nod:

It would have been a awful choice for a single, I never listen to it. I try to ignore Rock The Shack, Slow Jam and Working Overtime as well !

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A good example of just how out of touch Bernard has been (drugs? ego? lack of perspective?). He seems to think that those crappy female backing vocals he likes to tack onto New Order tracks are just pop music gold.

What would be the demographics for this song? I guess he thinks he would be bigger than James Blunt or something. Sure, Bernard can try to write a song like that, he is allowed to give it a go but song is kinda inane and not exactly a classic pop toon.

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More proof, if we ever needed it, that he's lost the plot. Probably just as well they've finished, how shit would any new material have been?

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I'm actually very surprised at the reaction to 'Run Wild' on this thread. I think it's the standout track on the otherwise overproduced Get Ready....and a beautiful way to end the album off. At the time I was even hoping that this would be hinting at a new sound & direction for the band.

Run Wild is probably one of the more honest sounding New Order tracks....in the same vein as Every Little Counts and Leave Me Alone. I think it would have made a great single!

N.

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Barny's judgement seems to have slowly deteriorated over the years. Run Wild is probably the one NO track I can find no merit in whatsoever - even Rock The Shack I don't mind, as long as one forgets it's New Order and ignores the dodgy lyrics, musically its got a bit of energy at least. And I rather like Jetstream.

If it had been a single, though, how many of you would have bought it anyway, just out of completeness?

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404 error wrote:

If it had been a single, though, how many of you would have bought it anyway, just out of completeness?

Completely agree with you, but buying it to complete a collection is very different from thinking it's any good. I've got all the formats oaf WIFM, plus the promos, but they've never been played :nono:

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Bruuuue Mundaaee wrote: I'm actually very surprised at the reaction to 'Run Wild' on this thread. I think it's the standout track on the otherwise overproduced Get Ready....and a beautiful way to end the album off. At the time I was even hoping that this would be hinting at a new sound & direction for the band.

Otherwise overproduced? Run Wild is the most overproduced track on the record!

That said, though, it is pretty, and the non-fans I know who've heard Get Ready seem to like it. Barney may be right about that one.

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404 error wrote: If it had been a single, though, how many of you would have bought it anyway, just out of completeness?

Well, of course we'd buy it. The real question is, would anyone else?

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Chris Nash wrote: Just listening to Barney, interviewed for the iTunes special release, where he says that 'Run Wild' should have been a single and that New Order really missed out there...

Was he on drugs of some kind while saying that?

Worst tracks New Order ever released (in order):

WIFM Run Wild Piss Stream

'Run Wild' sounds like something that even Electronic would have ditched in favour of at least a few average tracks. Thank goodness New Order didn't release 'Run Wild' and were good enough to leave it to the end of 'Get Ready' - at least I can just turn the album off after track 9...

:banghead:

Must say the iTunes version is a lot better though.

Can't put my finger on why, but it just is.

They didn't release a 3rd single off Get Ready anyways... and logical choice would have been Primitive Notion (or Turn My Way for North America)...

Run Wild? No chance...

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oh dear, I'm one of the few who actually like run wild! I like it in the same vein as the other fan favourites eg leave me alone. a soulful, poignant song for me. (and i ignor the final rhyming couplet!)

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I Don't see what all the fuss is about. It's a mellow enjoyable tune and certainly more listenable to me that most of the songs on "Get Ready." To each his own...

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A Steve Osborne instrumental mix would've been ace.

No "Jesus" lyrics required... it destroys any enjoyment I have of that tune.

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Warning: GOD RELATED LYRICS

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they could have given 'run wild' to celine dion. that would've sounded about right.

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If they'd taken out the Jesus lyrics, then it would be easier to listen...

:smoking:

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I like it

& think its one of the best tracks on the album

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Brilliant thread.

Barney has lost the plot cos he thinks New Order should've released Run Wild as a single?!

Fact of the matter is, New Order didn't release Run Wild as a single. When push came to shove they actually released a little gem called Crystal instead.

Which presumably makes Barney a genius for actually getting it right first time round?

But still, as always on NOOL, why let the facts get in the way of a good ol' whinge! :nod:

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He must be taking a piss???? But what is it with Barney and those crappy backing vocals??? The only good backing vocals were Gillians, and everyones else is crap. Granted a few songs made well use of them, but if Gillian were singing them, it would have been ace.

Run Wild really is a forgetable track....definately not single quality. It simply would have been one of those songs on the "Singles" complilation that has you scratching yer head thinking "They released this, I don't remember that????" as it wouldn't have gotten any radio play.

Get it together Barney....or is he just going senile?

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Buffy wrote: they could have given 'run wild' to celine dion. that would've sounded about right.

That's because you only hear her crap in english :lol:

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Spotnick wrote:

Buffy wrote: they could have given 'run wild' to celine dion. that would've sounded about right.

That's because you only hear her crap in english :lol:

Are you saying her French output is actually good? :evil4:

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Run Wild is probably my all-time favorite New Order 'mellow' song. but then, I probably wouldn't like the idea of this song being a single.

Just like other 'mellow' NO songs, Your Silent Face, Sooner Than You Think, Every Second Counts, Everyone Everywhere, etc..., I prefer these to just be retained as an album track.

Indeed*!*

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I love Run Wild, it's one of my favourite things NO have done.

No idea how it would have done at a single. Short of a bit of 'top tickling' like Osborne did, no mixing is really possible with a track like this because it's a ballad with a start, middle and an end. I think it's really well balanced track. I love the bass/harmonica interplay but the song wouldn't benefit from any more of it, it's just right as it is. Like the best Smiths songs, when it's over it's over - no way to stretch it out. So not sure what a single release would have achieved, it wouldn't get much radio play and no one would have bought it, but when do they ever?

Mind you, I love Jetstream and WIM too, so it just goes to show: you're all wrong :nod:

However big a booboo they made with the singles from Get Ready pales into insignificance next to the mess they made of the Siren's singles which, as everyone knows, should have been "Waiting for the Siren's Call", "Jetstream" and "Turn" in that order.

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Worse single, how about worse album "Waiting for the Siren's Call". I must have only played a couple of times. Just couldn't get into it.

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BIGINOIL wrote: Mind you, I love Jetstream and WIM too, so it just goes to show: you're all wrong :nod:

We had a nice little singalong to Jetstream in the boozer last night. Luvverly. :nod:

Still not convinced about APK's one-legged dancing to it though. :evil4:

And WIM will always be the soundtrack to one of the best summers in my life. You just can't beat those sorta memories.

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Alan Waites wrote: Worse single, how about worse album "Waiting for the Siren's Call". I must have only played a couple of times. Just couldn't get into it.

Then you are missing something great.

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i knew there was about 5 or 6 on that album that i never got round to playing. that's probably one of them i think.

cheers for that :thumb:

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I'm sure Barney was taking the piss out of it. I remember him asking the audience at Finsbury if they wanted to hear whether "Rock the Shack" or "Blue Monday". And, of course, the answer was obvious, so Barney did know what to ask :laugh: And the same is here. A safe joke.

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I really couldn't stand Barney as much nowadays. Run Wild is such an anomaly, and the second half of Get Ready sucks.

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Thank fook it wasn't.I'd already had enough with fookin' Shitstream thanks very much:nono: :thumbdown:

With HNWYD,Turn & that,not a triumverate of tracks I'd like them to be remembered for.Maybe now,I can see where Hookys' coming from! :scratch:

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I;m a "real new order fan" and love run wild, a lovely ending to an album. This song really splits NO fans judging by this post and when it was reviewed on the weekly song reviews. It was also chosen on the Box Set under the fans choice! Might set up a fan club for loving the RUN WILD TRACK. The fan club might prove that popular that we would have to release the track as a single and get to sing it on Jools Holland with a 32-piece gospel choir and Barney playing the reverend Sumner. Leave Me Alone sang New Order well leave this track alone its fookin ace.

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The Shadow wrote: I;m a "real new order fan" and love run wild, a lovely ending to an album. This song really splits NO fans judging by this post and when it was reviewed on the weekly song reviews. It was also chosen on the Box Set under the fans choice! Might set up a fan club for loving the RUN WILD TRACK. The fan club might prove that popular that we would have to release the track as a single and get to sing it on Jools Holland with a 32-piece gospel choir and Barney playing the reverend Sumner. Leave Me Alone sang New Order well leave this track alone its fookin ace.

So you like it then..But would you bum it if it had an arsehole.That's real love :nod:

I like it,as it goes..Not a patch on Crystal though,natch.

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I actually kinda like it, apart from the Jesus references. I remember playing it in the car to random friends when Get Ready came out, and the general consensus was it should be a single because it would be a massive hit.

My feeling these days is that they liked it because it doesnt really sound like New Order with the heavy strings and backing vocals. If I played a top Hooky rock out bass driven song such as 60MPH from the album they just were not interested.

Barney has a point I think, and he might be right in a way, as it doesnt really sound like NO.

This might be why its always been rubbish live.

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I think that Run Wild is a beautiful song. I like the Jesus lyrics....I think that RW is a song about loving someone and not wanting them to pass away...the line "When Jesus comes to take you hand, I won't let go" is utterly beautiful......I have actually gotten teary eyed listening to it....makes me think of my grandmother, actually. I think RW is a lovely song about...well, loving someone. Its lovely. Plus....it kinds with the greatest New Order Kiss off since ELT....."Im going to live to get high!: Hah hah! Awesome! That line got a huge cheer at the Chicago 05 show.

Now...would it have been a good single? I don't think so...and I think that Barney was kidding.

As for WIFM....I love it. Classic New Order pop song. Super catchy. Quite nice lyrics about the importance of being an individual, actually. Yes....its a bit silly but hella fun to dance to!

I love Jetstream as well. its got a beautiful melody, awesome electronics, nice vocals and production...its a classic New Order dance pop song. its quite a hit when I play it when I DJ...and I know a lot of teenagers who like it alot, believe it or not. If JET had been the first single from WFTSC...it would have done just as well as Krafty...if not a tiny bit better.

I think WFTSC is a great album. Its the one NO album besides Technique that I listen to from start to finish in a regular basis. I actually listen to WFTSC in my car more than any other New Order studio album. I like the variety it has. Plus, Whose Joe? is just tops.

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|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: I'm sure Barney was taking the piss out of it. I remember him asking the audience at Finsbury if they wanted to hear whether "Rock the Shack" or "Blue Monday". And, of course, the answer was obvious, so Barney did know what to ask :laugh: And the same is here. A safe joke.

Don't think so. That Itunes interview was at the same time of the 2005 gigs when they brought Run Wild into setlist out of nowhere. Clearly Bernard gives that song special importance.

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Tune-wise it's not too shabby, but the lyrics are straight out of the Bernard book of cringe. Ricky Gervais as Andy Millman couldn't come up with more cringeworthy stuff!

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Think there's more than a touch of fanboy overreaction in this thread. "Confirms they should've called it a day"? Naff talk.

While the Run Wild lyrics induce a wince or two, surely this is nothing new. There are some really lush layers to be heard behind them. If backing singers and overproduction are your beef, look no further than Liar from Republic. NO's absolute nadir for mine, no competition.

When NO were out here on the Get Ready tour, I asked Hooky whether there'd be another single after 60MPH. He said they wanted Run Wild. I posted this here at the time.

So if you're using this as a Bernard basher, forget it.

:\pimp3:

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I really like RW, not sure it would have done that well as a single, though... Lyrically not the best, but how many NO tracks are nowadays... There's plenty of other cringeworthy moments (Rock The Shack, Slow Jam) on GR - at least with RW they did something a bit different...

Snorri xxx

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:clap: I agree with what Zachery Starkey said (apart from the bit about Jetstream, which, apart from some of the dance remixes, is GASH of the highest order).

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To me the fact that Run Wild is so utterly... alien in regards to the New Order back catalogue is what places it amongst the best of their work. It is emotional, it is atmospheric (especially the ambient intro on the Steve Osbourne mix) and it reveals that the Order do care after all. Can you think of a better description for New Order at their best?

I now await replies on how I'm talking shit...:skeptic:

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I won't say you're talking shit Chris, but New Order at their best? What about:

Ceremony, Temptation, Sunrise, EGG, Elegia, TPK, Thieves Like Us, etc...?

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Chris Nash wrote: I won't say you're talking shit Chris, but New Order at their best? What about:

Ceremony, Temptation, Sunrise, EGG, Elegia, TPK, Thieves Like Us, etc...?

All fine tunes (except TPK and TLU imho) but Run Wild offers a different side to the Order that had previously been demonstrated: a more caring and considerate side compared to the child like euphoria of Temptation, the cold alienation of Ceremony and EGG and the rubbish love songs like Paradise and Everyone Everywhere. Which is why I place RW in the company of the tracks you listed above.

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Zachery said "I think that Run Wild is a beautiful song. I like the Jesus lyrics....I think that RW is a song about loving someone and not wanting them to pass away...the line "When Jesus comes to take you hand, I won't let go" is utterly beautiful......I have actually gotten teary eyed listening to it....makes me think of my grandmother, actually. I think RW is a lovely song about...well, loving someone. Its lovely"

I agree sir. 'Tis a beautiful tune and the lines "You're the kind of person / I always wanted to be with / You're really cool / And you always say the right things for me" and the way the way it goes on .... just bliss.

The most romantic NO song?

I think it would have flopped as a single mind.

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Run Wild?

That's when the 'stop' button gets pressed :evil4:

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Funny how the people that like the song pop up once, say their bit and go.

The ones that don't like it keep jumping up, yapping on like one of them little dogs that want to shag your leg.

It's only a song - get over it :shades:

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Its about his daughter, I like it now I'll shut up and go away again !

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oi boatyman...what's all this i've been hearin about the city of Boro man. say it aint true man. tell me about the fields and stuff man and the woodses. the economy man. the local one. sell it to me mannnnnn!!! :smoking:

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Run Wild is a lovely song...but shouldnt have been a single. Why all good songs should be singles?? sometimes it doesnt make sense to me.

Run Wild has a great lyrics and i love the version they played during the 2005 tour :thumb:

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I cant even think what run wild sounds like. the only two for sure I know off that album are Krafty & WFTSC. Perhaps they should have canned the album and just released an EP?

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darran clarke wrote: I cant even think what run wild sounds like. the only two for sure I know off that album are Krafty & WFTSC. Perhaps they should have canned the album and just released an EP?

Run Wild was from Get Ready.

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Back to the topic at hand, I agree with Bernard, actually. Run Wild would have fit nicely in American top 40 - it would probably the only NO song you'd hear at a rural bar in the Bible Belt, thanks to the Jesus talk and the sentimentality of 'I won't let go.' I think that with the relatively simple sound (guitars, no synth), the slower beat and it could have gotten real nice notice by people who other wouldn't pay attention to NO. I think of Love & Rockets' So Alive - it was huge in the States and really was pretty different from what i would peg as a L&R song.

That's my 2 cents. I like Run Wild, I don't love it. I prefer the steve osbourne version

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King John Honest John wrote: oi boatyman...what's all this i've been hearin about the city of Boro man. say it aint true man. tell me about the fields and stuff man and the woodses. the economy man. the local one. sell it to me mannnnnn!!! :smoking:

I can't hear you man,the smog,it burns my luggs..I'm fucking choking here....IF Jesus comes to take my hand, ask him to bring a gas mask... Yer fuckin jokin arn yer! It's all lies..London press lies as per. Two miles inland and you have the beautiful North Yorkshire Moors,some of the best countryside that England has to offer,and the coast and beach the other way,where we live..Good times around the corner...:thumb: Having said that, Boro Town itself is rough,with the highest stats per capita of prossys in the country,(youz all come from miles around to give em one apparently)and a huge smack and crime problem.BUT,it's no different in that respect to alot of towns and cities..And we are famed for our legendary hospitality,warmth,Brian Cloughs,Stuart Ripleys and ofcourse Parmos..Fuck Fleet Street in the nostril,and ask Sir Bruce Rioch.He knows the crac! :thumb: plus,nearly all the lasses are necter and down to earth.Who could ask for anything more? :shrug: But we don't want your sort Noj, so go park yer caravan in Stoke :laugh:

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Boaty,I used to know a girl from Middlesborough , she moved down here early 90s .Heart of gold , friendly as fcuk.Lovely looking lass as well.Think i can deffo say that the Boro accent on a woman is one of my favourites:nod:

Oh yeah , um, Run Wild- i like it , aye:nod:

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johnny wrote: Boaty,I used to know a girl from Middlesborough , she moved down here early 90s .Heart of gold , friendly as fcuk.Lovely looking lass as well.Think i can deffo say that the Boro accent on a woman is one of my favourites:nod:

Oh yeah , um, Run Wild- i like it , aye:nod:

Have you ever heard a boro lass say 'purple shirt' and not got at least half-a-bar-on ? 'Pairrpel shhert..' all feminine,like :love: Run Wild v Boro lasses Fit for a NOOL poll,is it not ? Not...cos the effin poll don't effin work,does it? :shrug: Pity.

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*Moriarty voice*

Lads, lads, my lovely hairy lads...

I was just in one of my grumpy old man moods when I first posted this. It's still shite as a song, but maybe not as bad as I made it out to be.

Was quite nice at Hyde Park.

OR WAS IT? :evil4:

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pumped full of drugs wrote: A good example of just how out of touch Bernard has been (drugs? ego? lack of perspective?). He seems to think that those crappy female backing vocals he likes to tack onto New Order tracks are just pop music gold.

I absolutely can't stand the female backing vocals, but is it solely of Bernard's fault though? There is a handful of Monaco songs with female backing vocals so it seems that Hooky is into it too. I agree that the only female vocal that is acceptable on a New Order song is that of Gillian Gilbert. The rest ruins everything.

BIGINOIL wrote: However big a booboo they made with the singles from Get Ready pales into insignificance next to the mess they made of the Siren's singles which, as everyone knows, should have been "Waiting for the Siren's Call", "Jetstream" and "Turn" in that order.

I don't like "Jetstream" at all, mainly because of the female vocal. I enjoy "Krafty" very much so I think they made a good choice on that song. My choices of singles are "Waiting for the Siren's Call", "Krafty" and "Turn". Those are actually the only three songs I like from the album.

I like "Get Ready" even less than "Waiting for the Siren's Call" and "Run Wild" is one of the three songs with "Crystal" and "60 Miles An Hour" that I can tolerate from the album and even then, I don't like neither of them that much.

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Boatraceface wrote: and ask Sir Bruce Rioch.He knows the crac! :thumb:

A legend. A Stopsley boy done good. :nod:

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Chris Nash wrote:

Was quite nice at Hyde Park.

OR WAS IT? :evil4:

no it wasn't :nono:

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I'm coming to the conclusion that New Order WERE actually shit. and only have about three top notch songs.

:laugh: :nod:

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Andrès wrote: Run Wild is a lovely song...but shouldnt have been a single. Why all good songs should be singles?? sometimes it doesnt make sense to me.

Exactly!

The same logic on Ruined In A Day as a single. Not all singles should be good songs, and even not-so-good songs can have 12"/remix/multiple versions!

Indeed*!*

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I just bought Get Ready on vinyl so I started to listen to it once again recently. It's a very good album, much better than WFTSC, which I don't listen to at all. Get Ready has, as I see it, a "mature" New Order sound and still blows me away.

I mean, it's more accurate if they produce pop/rock songs instead of manchester groove songs like Jetstream. Get Ready put them once again on the map, WFTSC erased it. Acutally it's the album that I listen to most of them all these days.

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I can understand Barney liking this song as he worte it about his daughter.

It has some decent bits to it but is not really one of the GR highlights for me.

However, the reason I always skip from SLY back to Crystal can be summed up in just 2 words.

Jehova Jesus

No thank you Barney. Not my scene.

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Sam the Stokie wrote: Run Wild?

That's when the 'stop' button gets pressed :evil4:

:lol:

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I like Run Wild and would have preferred it to Jetstream as a single.

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Ana Matronic and the Jonathan Ross show appearance were the things that finally made me detest Jetstream. First couple of listens, I didn't mind it at all, as I said when I reviewed it. Just the live vocal performances were so utterly appalling that the song has been permanently spoiled for me.

Then again, who am I to talk - I seem to be one of the very few who like 'Shellshock' and 'SOTN' :shrug:

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I love Run Wild, one of the best tracks out of Get Ready...

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No offence meant Leonardo, but your lot came up with Sabrina

:laugh:

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It always seemed to me if some NY DJ had picked up on Run Wild immediately after 9/11 then it would have stormed America. Still none did, and it didn't.

My gran died shortly after Get Ready was released and I played this tune constantly following her death. So those of you who criticise it can politely fook off...

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Spotnick wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: Just listening to Barney, interviewed for the iTunes special release, where he says that 'Run Wild' should have been a single and that New Order really missed out there...

Was he on drugs of some kind while saying that?

Worst tracks New Order ever released (in order):

WIFM Run Wild Piss Stream

'Run Wild' sounds like something that even Electronic would have ditched in favour of at least a few average tracks. Thank goodness New Order didn't release 'Run Wild' and were good enough to leave it to the end of 'Get Ready' - at least I can just turn the album off after track 9...

:banghead:

Must say the iTunes version is a lot better though.

Can't put my finger on why, but it just is.

They didn't release a 3rd single off Get Ready anyways... and logical choice would have been Primitive Notion (or Turn My Way for North America)...

Run Wild? No chance...

Turn My Way was the lost single.

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Chris Nash wrote: Ana Matronic and the Jonathan Ross show appearance were the things that finally made me detest Jetstream. First couple of listens, I didn't mind it at all, as I said when I reviewed it. Just the live vocal performances were so utterly appalling that the song has been permanently spoiled for me.

Then again, who am I to talk - I seem to be one of the very few who like 'Shellshock' and 'SOTN' :shrug:

I am convinced that part of the reason that JET sounded so awful on Jonathan Ross was because there was too much guitar on it. Phil played guitar instead of keyboards...it just didnt sound right. If you listen to New Order playing JET live from the Canal + show or Chicago 05..where Phil played his synth parts and Barney was actually in tune...the song actually sounds quite good.

JET has kinda cheesy lyrics sure....but its got an awesome hook and melody and is very catchy. I love it. Plus...I do like the line "Its been so long since I made you cry".

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Chris Nash wrote: No offence meant Leonardo, but your lot came up with Sabrina

:laugh:

Sabrina...! :love:

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I really like this song. But I definitely don't think it should have been a single. The opinions from New Order fans alone prove that.

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Would have been interested to hear a Xenophobia mix of Jetstream.That production team was mooted pre WFTSC

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i think its a decent song even with the jesus references. It reminds me of some of their brotherhood era tunes. I'm glad it wasn't a single because the christian rock cult would of adopted NO for their cause.

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Yes it reminds me a lot of Every Little Counts from Brotherhood

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Just dug out the Jetstream CD with the U-MYX facility on.It's fookin ace this !!! wheh hey!!! Making some acapella mix and Hooky + Synth only mixes :dj: :music:

How come i've never played with this self mixing thing before:scratch:

Barney and synth only mix is good :music:

on an un /re recall LWTUA from The Tube @ The Hacienda but don't remember it being the last part of a medley Shack Up/Confusion/LWTUA .First time since original 84 broadcast i've seen the Shack Up/Confusion section .ace:clap: :thumb:

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Super Ally wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: No offence meant Leonardo, but your lot came up with Sabrina

:laugh:

Sabrina...! :love:

God, I remember her - that video ("Boys"?) was her in a swimming pool, and (for a split second) her nipples could be seen from under her bathing costume...

Allegedly! :laugh:

Crap song, mind...

:smoking:

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Nick King wrote:

Super Ally wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: No offence meant Leonardo, but your lot came up with Sabrina

:laugh:

Sabrina...! :love:

God, I remember her - that video ("Boys"?) was her in a swimming pool, and (for a split second) her nipples could be seen from under her bathing costume...

Allegedly! :laugh:

Crap song, mind...

:smoking:

I'm sure I remember her performing the song on TOTP in a very tight lycra top... Or is just my imagination running riot?! :laugh:

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I think one of New Order's great weaknesses is their lack of choosing good singles from their albums. Run Wild would have been another example. Technique should have had any or all of Vanishing Point, Mr. Disco, and Dream Attack. Get Ready should have given us Primitive Notion. Low Life should have had Sooner Than You Think. You can go on really.

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Horses for courses, but I think one of their main weaknesses, after 1986, was releasing single versions of songs that were on the albums.

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I got bored after the second page.....

Since every other fcuker has commented.....

Run Wild - Good song - Shite option fer a single.

Jetstream - Average song - Good to sing along to - Shite choice fer a single.

WIFM - Great song except for any bit which mentions Engerland. Good choice fer a single.

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aye

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BIGINOIL wrote: It's only a song - get over it :shades:

!Super..

Procession was a great choice. Sunrise. '85.:cool: Sunrise. '87. Blown away it's from the same Band.

Face Up. '87.

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you can mention 'jesus' in a song without being a fanatical christian....

you guys are taking the lyrics far too literally...

it is not a 'religious song'.

the pope is not about to sanction it.

(it is actually a pretty punk thing to do, use the word 'jesus' in a song, cause just look how easily offended people get!)

p.s. do you guys get in a tizzy when you hear Velvet Underground's "jesus" song???

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Tarbox23 wrote:

the pope is not about to sanction it.

It's shit!

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Jackson Withrow wrote: I think one of New Order's great weaknesses is their lack of choosing good singles from their albums. Run Wild would have been another example. Technique should have had any or all of Vanishing Point, Mr. Disco, and Dream Attack.

I read somewhere that the first single off Technique should've been Vanishing Point, not Fine Time. I forgot the reason why... I don't know even why Fine Time became a single.:scratch:

Indeed*!*

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Sub-Cultured*!* wrote:

Jackson Withrow wrote: I think one of New Order's great weaknesses is their lack of choosing good singles from their albums. Run Wild would have been another example. Technique should have had any or all of Vanishing Point, Mr. Disco, and Dream Attack.

I read somewhere that the first single off Technique should've been Vanishing Point, not Fine Time. I forgot the reason why... I don't know even why Fine Time became a single.:scratch:

Indeed*!*

management wanted one thing, the band another. the band won.

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new order sucks...

end of

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Shug wrote: I got bored after the second page.....

Since every other fcuker has commented.....

Run Wild - Good song - Shite option fer a single.

Jetstream - Average song - Good to sing along to - Shite choice fer a single.

WIFM - Great song except for any bit which mentions Engerland. Good choice fer a single.

Gotta agree with yer there wee shuglet.....

Quirky song bout jesus n all that shite,btu an interesting ending on about getting high? :wtf:

Nevr could understand barneys lyrics anyways. :lol:

:nuts:

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Was never mad on this song,the backing vocals give the air of being sung around a camp-fire with cub scouts.It was only saved by Barney's Melodica and Hooky's bass kicking in near the end. Must admit I've just played all the NO I-tunes Originals today,and it's a much better version,I see it in a better light now. Quite good re-recorded versions on there,though Love Vigilantes should have been left alone.

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Most of their choices for singles are songs that will receive play on dancefloors and can be remixed to encouraged for DJ playing, which was considered their strength market wise. Hard to argue, especially world wide.

What makes me really cringe about "Run Wild" with some of the lyrics, jesus reference, and the lame backing vocals, is that the song sounds sorta like the shallow crap that some person says when they come out of rehab or their life has hit rock bottom and they are now all touchy-feelly religious... kinda pathetic and embarrassing.

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I really thought Run Wild sucked the first time I heard it. Actually, from 2001 up until 2005 I thought it was possibly thier worst tune ever....

Then I heard them play in Chicago in 2005 and it actually sounded pretty nice.

Since then it has really grown on me. its got a nice melody. Good chill out song.

I don't think it would have been a good single at all.

But I do think its a very pretty and melodic song. Its by no means a religious song.....its sort of about loving someone and wanting to hold onto them, not letting go even when they die. I think thats very sweet. The line "When Jesus comes to take your hand, I won't let go" is pretty good in terms of expressing not wanting to let go of someone.

I don't think its the song where Barney reveals himself to be a holy roller.

Plus...the song ends with that great couplet:

"I'm gonna live till I die I'm gonna live to get high!"

Thats classic daft Barney right there, hah hah.

I sort of think that all of Get Ready has one prime lyrical theme to it...

Which is growing old rather disgracefully.

I mean...Crystal is about..uh.......breaking easy, being fragile, but still wanting to keep "it" coming....

Primitive Notion is about..uh.....like magic potions and stuff.

Slow Jam is about going o ut on your boat and getting drunk under the sun..

Close Range is about your high school buddy who has turned into a useless druggie....

Someone Like You is about..er.......meeting or taking something that makes ya feel liek your old self...

Run Wild is about....um.....living someone...not wanting them to die...and then getting high.

Its deep shit. Deeeeeeeep maaaaaan.

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Chris Nash wrote: Just listening to Barney, interviewed for the iTunes special release, where he says that 'Run Wild' should have been a single and that New Order really missed out there...

Is this interview still somewhere on the internet?

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Tim wrote: More proof, if we ever needed it, that he's lost the plot. Probably just as well they've finished, how shit would any new material have been?

A touch harsh one thinks...:cry:

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runwild wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: Just listening to Barney, interviewed for the iTunes special release, where he says that 'Run Wild' should have been a single and that New Order really missed out there...

Is this interview still somewhere on the internet?

It is available on I tunes, as the New Order I tunes originals

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michael preda wrote:

runwild wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: Just listening to Barney, interviewed for the iTunes special release, where he says that 'Run Wild' should have been a single and that New Order really missed out there...

Is this interview still somewhere on the internet?

It is available on I tunes, as the New Order I tunes originals

Do you have to pay for that?

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Sorry, only just realised that I didn't reply to that - yes, the interview is still available - see above.

I also noticed that Nic mentioned that only two singles were released from 'GR' - Crystal and 60 Miles An Hour... What about 'Someone Like You'? :confused2:

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I really like Run Wild. It is a beautiful tribute to his daughter. Granted, I don't get the "get high" reference, but the song shows that Bernard can scale everything back and just make a simple, yet melodic and beautiful song. For all those friends of mine that hate NO (and Bernard in particular) because they feel they don't "play instruments", it is an example of a back-to-basics kind of song that shows that he does, indeed, have talentand can play a guitar. It is a beautiful song. JMO

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Liz wrote: Granted, I don't get the "get high" reference

:confused2:

That is the most straightforward and memorable part of the song!

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It should have been saved for an 'Electronic' album...

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14 K wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote: It's only a song - get over it :shades:

!

true dat! :D

it doesn't hurt to be 'emotional' sometimes. it's good for the soul.

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Can anyone tell what he says in that interview? What is Run Wild about?

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In my humble opinion, it's the best CLosing track they've produced since "Leave Me Alone", but it's still not single material...the remix on the 5th disc of Retro is very good though.

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0_o wrote:

Liz wrote: Granted, I don't get the "get high" reference

:confused2:

That is the most straightforward and memorable part of the song!

I meant why would you include that in a song you wrote for your daughter. God knows we all know about Bernard's love for getting high! lol

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