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Movement Remastered: What would you want on the bonus disc?

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This is an idea to start speculating on what you would want on an eventual Movement Remastered BONUS CD.

IN NO WAY THIS MEAN THIS PROJECT EXISTS, it's just for fun, and so we can eventually send the list to the labels so they would consider it, maybe.

But just maybe.

So, MOVEMENT 1981... what the hell would you want on a BONUS CD? rare tracks? live gig... what?

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Curious to know if there are any alternate mixes, as Hannett and the band were no longer seeing eye to eye at that point and the band were on their way to producing themselves...

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hmmm...a set of ear plugs might be nice...

sorry...just not a big fan of Movement...probably the least played disc I have from NO...

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Maybe a couple of those weird and wonderful dubbed out primitive live versions of EGG or Temptation.

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I think it would be good to include the Western Works Demos, and a live show, which would probably have to be one of Duncan's live recordings from the May 81 tour, maybe Stockholm, Brussels or Hamburg, all of which have long experimental EGGs. Talbot Tabernacle would be a good one as well.

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Bit of TATTON COMMUNITY CENTRE Chorley.Would love to see this written in a booklet.RESPECT to you KNOW who for this. :thumb:

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ROCKET MICK wrote: Bit of TATTON COMMUNITY CENTRE Chorley.Would love to see this written in a booklet.RESPECT to you KNOW who for this. :thumb:

Sound quality's not good enough though Mick, it is a good performance but the sound isn't up to it and there is no soundboard.

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Obvious would be Ceremony, In A Lonely Place, EGG and Procession all remastered, of course. Anyways, all the versions not on Substance... I know we have some of them on Singles, so it wouldn't be new.

Theme, Hommage and Haystack.

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Spotnick wrote: Obvious would be Ceremony, In A Lonely Place, EGG and Procession all remastered, of course. Anyways, all the versions not on Substance... I know we have some of them on Singles, so it wouldn't be new.

Theme, Hommage and Haystack.

Theme? It's not New Order any more than Getting Away With It is, and Haystack has no place on a New Order compilation, they are merely the backing band playing someone else's song. Homage should be on any record representing the early years, as should Cries and Whispers and Mesh.

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There's honestly not much I can think of that I'd be genuinely interested in...

That original In a Lonely Place 7inch that isn't on CD yet would be good.

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How about a few tracks from soundchecks in 1980/81?

There are a few floating about and that means New Order doing many of the Movement tracks in their unfinished form, plus Joy Division tracks without Ian, which they didn't play in public again for another 5 - 6 years.

Either that or one of New Order's first gigs.

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Of course: I

  1. Ceremony
  2. In A Lonely Place
  3. Mesh
  4. Cries & Whispers
  5. Procession.
  6. Everything's Gone Green.
  7. Ceremony (with Gillian) II Western Demos (but with a better sound quality, off the tapes!) Movement alternate mixes (must exist, I presume) III Something live with top notch sound quality.

Hmmm, now it seems like in 1981 New Order were prolific as never thereafter.

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Rehersal tape session of IALP and Ceremony with IC remastered?

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Studio version of Dreams Never End but with the two vocal tracks switched so it would more like the live version.

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I'd prefer a 3 CD set (or whatever the digital equivalent is) with one disk being devoted to a complete restructure of the album similar to the project P*** McC****** did with Let It Be (?? I think) where he took off all the Phil Spector stuff. I suspect the master tapes are in a Lancashire landfill site anyway....

Some of the live versions of the Movement tracks show how much better they'd be without the studio excess.

We've all already (I bet) done CD 2 of the collection ('Homage', all the 'b' sides, peel sessions etc etc)

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I think my preference would be stuff that not even the most avid bootleg collector has heard yet - given that enough interesting things exist. Other than that I'd go with what Oldmonkey said. BooomBoom's Berlin tape would be great as well - the audience participation is almost nil but the performance is as inspired as anything New Order ever played.

Or maybe they could manage a bonus DVD with Celebration and find the entire Brussels 81 film somewhere. But that's a pipe dream. :rolleyes:

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I'd like the first every concert as NO...Hooky said they have that....

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Colin Simpson wrote: I'd like the first every concert as NO

with the Western Works demo,as suggested by Tim

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With Bernard not too keen on their live history, I imagine the chances of releasing what may have been their most shaky and uncertain performance ever are almost nil.

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|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Of course: I

  1. Ceremony
  2. In A Lonely Place
  3. Mesh
  4. Cries & Whispers
  5. Procession.
  6. Everything's Gone Green.
  7. Ceremony (with Gillian) II Western Demos (but with a better sound quality, off the tapes!) Movement alternate mixes (must exist, I presume) III Something live with top notch sound quality.

+1 :thumb:

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western works demo,

granada celebration, cries and whisphers, mesh,

dreams never end from the 81 heaven gig. everythings gone green from the manchester ritz gig.

chris hook has(had) a tape of new order "experimental"stuff from 1980, whether this is the western demo ,i dont know, it was never meant for release.

some day ,youll find.

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I really don't believe there is anything out there that we don't already have in one form or another, So I think Old Monkey got it right on his first post.

My wish would be for New Order to re-record the cd with Barneys vocals today, and much better producing. Even change ICB to the version on Community 2. But we all know that ain't going to happen.

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I'm not a big fan of Movement. It is my least favorable New Order album.

But then, I would be interested in this project if they included unreleased versions of the early singles and B-sides.

Indeed*!*

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Assuming Barney's looking the other way for a second, demos of all the 80/81 tracks (like The Cure did with their reissues), any experimental tracks that didn't make it to official release (even if they are just instrumentals) and The Beach Club gig.

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You would think there could be some very potentially interesting alternate versions on this early stuff. Versions that are quite different from the Hannett final versions, if they exist in usable form.

Plus these early 80s live sets are very interesting. Bernard has to get some perspective and respect THEIR (all of them) past, which is great. If he is ashamed of his singing and playing? ... well the recent live DVDs have crappy singing also, plus embarrassing dancing plus the music is cleaner but much less spontaneous, and much less "live" for that matter. If he is ashamed of his early lyrics?... well many of his recent lyrics are pretty embarrassing, at least he had an excuse back then when he was new to being frontman. What is the issue here with Bernard? He doesn't mind the Joy Division hype, but doesn't seem to like the Factory 80s New Order years.

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How about a remix disk of Movement songs? That has never been done as far as I know. Even as far as fan mixes go, I can't think of any other than my Doubts Even Here remix...

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Another mix of Blue Monday... :evil4:

Anything from that period with better sound quality than what we already have... Or any live stuff that isn't already in the public domian...

Snorri xxx

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Razed In A New Division Of Agony wrote: How about a remix disk of Movement songs? That has never been done as far as I know. Even as far as fan mixes go, I can't think of any other than my Doubts Even Here remix...

Don't like that idea at all. No remixes!

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FDISK wrote: Some of the live versions of the Movement tracks show how much better they'd be without the studio excess.

We've all already (I bet) done CD 2 of the collection ('Homage', all the 'b' sides, peel sessions etc etc)

Could just well be my Favourite Album. Yet, agreed far prefer Live takes of the Tunes.

Incl. a Live Disc.
Interested to hear if an '85 late Fall- early Winter show could get used. Once the Band was back on Home Soil.

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