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This is an idea to start speculating on what you would want on an eventual Low-Life Remastered BONUS CD.
IN NO WAY THIS MEAN THIS PROJECT EXISTS, it's just for fun, and so we can eventually send the list to the labels so they would consider it, maybe.
But just maybe.
So, LOW-LIFE 1985... what the hell would you want on a BONUS CD? rare tracks? live gig... what?
My fave New Order album!
Subculture (Exclusive Remix) Sunrise (Instrumental) Let's Go (demo) and a 1985 live gig (full)
Indeed!
What he said. Plus we should be spoilt for choice with the gig, we have dozens of superb quality recordings, and one or two decent performances too. Birmingham 85 would be my personal choice for the gig, they started the set with 6 Low Life songs. Only two more gigs in 85 had more from the album, and one of those is a US show that nobody has access to.
Maybe the Salvation tracks should be on that one as well?
I doubt they will remaster the Salvation! soundtrack ;)
The full 12" of The Perfect Kiss and the b-sides.
The Sub-culture remixes.
Other stuff written at that time. Does SOTN date from then too?
That's the one I would be more interested. Good to know that there are many gigs available.
Not interested in the Salvation tracks.
The full 12" version of TPK please, but more important: the edit of the album version could be so much better. When Bernard finishes the chorus (around 2:26 in the version I'm listening now) you can clearly see where it was "cut" from the single version. That's the part in the original single where he would start singing "When you are alone at night..." (i think) and actually you can hear the very beginning of the word "When" being sung. Can a remaster fix that?
(ok I'll stop the anal retentiveness now.... 
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The 12" of the Perfect Kiss, and... Possibly the full version of Eligia, though that would waste disc space somewhat, but I'd much rather have... Exclusive remixes, and/or rerecordings, and... a solid interview, at least 15 minutes where they talk about nothing but the album.
Let's Go (both instrumental and with the 1985 vocal)
Skullcrusher (either the Haus Nied or Studio 54 version)
The Perfect Kiss/The Kiss Of Death/The Perfect Pit, plus Cock Like The M1 to show people where it came from. 
Outtakes we haven't heard before, and a bonus DVD of the Toronto gig. I'm not asking for the impossible here! ;)
Igor wrote: The full 12" version of TPK please, but more important: the edit of the album version could be so much better. When Bernard finishes the chorus (around 2:26 in the version I'm listening now) you can clearly see where it was "cut" from the single version. That's the part in the original single where he would start singing "When you are alone at night..." (i think) and actually you can hear the very beginning of the word "When" being sung. Can a remaster fix that?
Actually, I liked that edit. It sounds like "Whoa!" rather than "When..." That is how I always hear it.
"...We believe in a land of love. Whoa!"
Indeed!
The Perfect Kiss 2008! Remixes of the whole album!
I'm sure I'm the only one who wants that. Most folk seem quite sniffy about remixes, (probably something to do with rock authenticity). But I have enough live stuff on bootlegs already (and if they release anything officially that just means more butchered boots on Dime with tracks cut out of them! The Retro live disk did more harm than good if you ask me!)
RandLor wrote: The 12" of the Perfect Kiss, and... Possibly the full version of Eligia, though that would waste disc space somewhat, but I'd much rather have... Exclusive remixes, and/or rerecordings, and... a solid interview, at least 15 minutes where they talk about nothing but the album.
Could you actually listen to 15 minutes of interviews? Would you listen to it again after the first time? Bernard isn't exactly forthcoming about the past, or anything for that matter. Seems embarassed by his "indie" days before he became a "pop star" for "real" with Electronic.
I wonder if there are alternate versions of songs in existance like "Perfect Kiss"? Seems like New Order just worked hard to finish songs as they were. Maybe there are some hidden gems... but that is prolly doubtful.
Cherry pick some fine live renditions from the era, and songs like "When I'm With You"... many live versions are excellent and a unique example of a creative band
old monkey wrote"only 2 gigs had more from low life in them"
would that be the mac per chance?
would like some stuff from salford,, brum was pretty good to,,, ,, cant remember a bad gig from that year realy.,
its just like sister ray says.
Spotnick wrote: Maybe the Salvation tracks should be on that one as well?
I doubt they will remaster the Salvation! soundtrack ;)
I'm not a big fan of the NO Salvation tracks except for Let's Go and TBTHOG. Well... I won't complain if they do include these tracks in the proposed Low-Life Remasters, for they are still songs of New Order. But then, they were recorded between Low-Life and Brotherhood, with the exception of TBTHOG. So probably split the tracks.
Indeed!
birmingham 85,, wasnt that when they started taking there tops of for encores,, never caught on with steve and gillian for some reason
ive got the spirit
79 order wrote: birmingham 85,, wasnt that when they started taking there tops of for encores,, never caught on with steve and gillian for some reason
ive got the spirit
Kevin Smith wrote: Other stuff written at that time. Does SOTN date from then too?
Sunrise debuted at Mayfair Suite, Southhampton '84.
The Paradise Man wrote: Oooh Angel Dust live from the Americam tour in '87. Nice
Maybe on a Brotherhood disc, but it has no place before that!
Tim wrote:
The Paradise Man wrote: Oooh Angel Dust live from the Americam tour in '87. Nice
Maybe on a Brotherhood disc, but it has no place before that!
True, just testing.
I would vote for Birmingham '85, or live versions of the PFD Live in Tokyo songs.
Wouldn't Salvation tracks be more appropriate for Brotherhood?
Igor wrote: That's the one I would be more interested. Good to know that there are many gigs available.
Not interested in the Salvation tracks.
The full 12" version of TPK please, but more important: the edit of the album version could be so much better. When Bernard finishes the chorus (around 2:26 in the version I'm listening now) you can clearly see where it was "cut" from the single version. That's the part in the original single where he would start singing "When you are alone at night..." (i think) and actually you can hear the very beginning of the word "When" being sung. Can a remaster fix that?
(ok I'll stop the anal retentiveness now....
i THINK YOUR 2.26SEC IDEA is read wrong.THAT WAS THE MIX! THAT"S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH REMASTEREING.OR MAYBE IT HAS? the guitar mix on TECHNIQUE album was never quite full on songs like RUN or DREAM ATTACK. Does anyone know of of any accoustic/stripped-back covers/live stuff of this song.
Full Toronto 85 dvd. I can't wait to get the clip on the Glasgow dvd. I gather it is a good performance.
this is what i've mapped out..
4:18 1 Love Vigilantes 4:48 2 The Perfect Kiss 4:43 3 This Time of Night 5:58 4 Sunrise 4:53 5 Elegia 5:11 6 Sooner Than You Think 4:54 7 Sub-culture 5:03 8 Face Up
4:10 9 the perfect kiss (album edit)
4:23 10 the perfect kiss (7" edit)
5:09 11 kiss of death (7" edit or inst)
4:57 12 sub-culture (remix edit)
3:35 13 Dub-vulture (7")
7:26 14 Sub-culture (12")
7:57 15 subvulture (or dub-vulture)
4:16 Sunrise (10" edit) 5:39 sunrise (instrumental rough mix)
8:46 the perfect kiss (12" extended)
7:02 kiss of death (12")
1:20 perfect pit
5:18 the perfect kiss (live edit)
9:55 the perfect kiss (live video)
8:46 Subculture (The Sarm West Mix) / (Razormaid's 1st Remix)
4:37 Sub-culture (Live 19th June 1987) 5:37 Sunrise (Live 19th June 1987) 17:29 elegia (full version)
80 min+
various live tracks from 'pumped full of drugs'
3:51 The Perfect Kiss (Edit) 10 inch 3:01 The Kiss Of Death (Edit) 10 inch
========= i've made this, except for some of the live transcription tracks, and the 10inch edits..
later -1
-1 wrote: this is what i've mapped out..
disc 1
4:18 1 Love Vigilantes 4:48 2 The Perfect Kiss 4:43 3 This Time of Night 5:58 4 Sunrise 4:53 5 Elegia 5:11 6 Sooner Than You Think 4:54 7 Sub-culture 5:03 8 Face Up
4:10 9 the perfect kiss (album edit)
4:23 10 the perfect kiss (7" edit) 5:09 11 kiss of death (7" edit or inst)4:57 12 sub-culture (remix edit)
3:35 13 Dub-vulture (7") 7:26 14 Sub-culture (12")
7:57 15 subvulture (or dub-vulture)disc 2
4:16 Sunrise (10" edit) 5:39 sunrise (instrumental rough mix)
8:46 the perfect kiss (12" extended)
7:02 kiss of death (12") 1:20 perfect pit5:18 the perfect kiss (live edit)
9:55 the perfect kiss (live video)8:46 Subculture (The Sarm West Mix) / (Razormaid's 1st Remix)
4:37 Sub-culture (Live 19th June 1987) 5:37 Sunrise (Live 19th June 1987) 17:29 elegia (full version)
80 min+
extra:
various live tracks from 'pumped full of drugs'
3:51 The Perfect Kiss (Edit) 10 inch 3:01 The Kiss Of Death (Edit) 10 inch
========= i've made this, except for some of the live transcription tracks, and the 10inch edits..
later -1
Er..............no,thanks 
I would like to see a remix of This Time of Night which i think is in my top 5 of all time NO Songs. would also like to see the 10 minute Live Version of Perfect Kiss from Glastonbury 1987 but then i have just thought this is already on the BBC Live Version so fuck that. A remix of Elegia would be great but not sure what the hell you would do with that one. Face Up would also be a good one for the remixing treatment.
