What was the most "unfavorable" comment you've received liking New Order and how did you react to it?

What was the most unfavorable comment/opinion you've received being a New Order fanatic? How did you react to it?

Mine is not really that unfavorable, but then, this it how it goes:

It happened a few months ago when my new officemate, who is fresh from college and is into modern alternative / alternative rock, heard me playing a "different" version of Selfish by The Other Two in my laptop PC. He told me it is one of her girlfriend's favorite track, and wanted a copy of it. He was "surprised" that I have 8 versions of the song. I told him that New Order is my favorite artist.

Then wanted to see my mp3 files, and was more surprised to see 20+ versions of BLT, 30+ versions of BM, and 40+ versions of Crystal (not including tributes / covers). Then I showed him my tribute / cover folders and showed him that I have more than 70 artist who covered LWTUA. Then I know he was slowly puzzled by my collection.

He then ask me if I collect all versions and covers of New Order songs. Of course, I said yes to all I can get, but not all live audio (just selected) stuff, for it will just occupy all of my HD space. I saw him have a puzzled look on his face. I know he's about to ask 'why,' but before he does, I then answered him, "It is the ESSENCE for loving New Order." I continued by telling him my collection is nothing compared to... some of you guys. Told him some even are willing to pay a big amount for some stuff that they don't own, and thier collection cost a fortune...

So I gave him a short history of the band... That they are the pioneers of 12" Versions and Remixes... And most DJs are influenced by them, and love to remix their songs, that is why they have so many versions...

So he just said "Ahhh... okay..." At least he knew the reason and didn't find me "weird."

Indeed!

my uncle reckons its suicide music.

how did i deal with it? the window opened, and i climbed back in.

'Overrated has beens', from somebody who only listens to pop music.

'She wants to get out of the 80's' (??????), a friend commented to my other friend about me after she said I'd gone home to watch a Factory documentary.

I couldn't care less what other people think about my taste in music, so I didn't have to 'deal' with it.

The Sub-Cultured Perfect Kisser*!* wrote: What was the most unfavorable comment/opinion you've received being a New Order fanatic? How did you react to it?

Mine is not really that unfavorable, but then, this it how it goes:

It happened a few months ago when my new officemate, who is fresh from college and is into modern alternative / alternative rock, heard me playing a "different" version of Selfish by The Other Two in my laptop PC. He told me it is one of her girlfriend's favorite track, and wanted a copy of it. He was "surprised" that I have 8 versions of the song. I told him that New Order is my favorite artist.

Then wanted to see my mp3 files, and was more surprised to see 20+ versions of BLT, 30+ versions of BM, and 40+ versions of Crystal (not including tributes / covers). Then I showed him my tribute / cover folders and showed him that I have more than 70 artist who covered LWTUA. Then I know he was slowly puzzled by my collection.

He then ask me if I collect all versions and covers of New Order songs. Of course, I said yes to all I can get, but not all live audio (just selected) stuff, for it will just occupy all of my HD space. I saw him have a puzzled look on his face. I know he's about to ask 'why,' but before he does, I then answered him, "It is the ESSENCE for loving New Order." I continued by telling him my collection is nothing compared to... some of you guys. Told him some even are willing to pay a big amount for some stuff that they don't own, and thier collection cost a fortune...

So I gave him a short history of the band... That they are the pioneers of 12" Versions and Remixes... And most DJs are influenced by them, and love to remix their songs, that is why they have so many versions...

So he just said "Ahhh... okay..." At least he knew the reason and didn't find me "weird."

Indeed!

er, yeah , right.

I get the usual stuff like " New Order?.... didn't they do that Candy Girl song ? " Although i did find myself watching the video for that yesterday!! Oh dear

"so he said Aaahh ok"

has he spoken to you since?

The Sub-Cultured Perfect Kisser*!* wrote: What was the most unfavorable comment/opinion you've received being a New Order fanatic? How did you react to it?

Mine is not really that unfavorable, but then, this it how it goes:

It happened a few months ago when my new officemate, who is fresh from college and is into modern alternative / alternative rock, heard me playing a "different" version of Selfish by The Other Two in my laptop PC. He told me it is one of her girlfriend's favorite track, and wanted a copy of it. He was "surprised" that I have 8 versions of the song. I told him that New Order is my favorite artist.

Then wanted to see my mp3 files, and was more surprised to see 20+ versions of BLT, 30+ versions of BM, and 40+ versions of Crystal (not including tributes / covers). Then I showed him my tribute / cover folders and showed him that I have more than 70 artist who covered LWTUA. Then I know he was slowly puzzled by my collection.

He then ask me if I collect all versions and covers of New Order songs. Of course, I said yes to all I can get, but not all live audio (just selected) stuff, for it will just occupy all of my HD space. I saw him have a puzzled look on his face. I know he's about to ask 'why,' but before he does, I then answered him, "It is the ESSENCE for loving New Order." I continued by telling him my collection is nothing compared to... some of you guys. Told him some even are willing to pay a big amount for some stuff that they don't own, and thier collection cost a fortune...

So I gave him a short history of the band... That they are the pioneers of 12" Versions and Remixes... And most DJs are influenced by them, and love to remix their songs, that is why they have so many versions...

So he just said "Ahhh... okay..." At least he knew the reason and didn't find me "weird."

Indeed!

Fascintating, just fascinating.

Or maybe not.

johnny wrote: " New Order?.... didn't they do that Candy Girl song ? "

'New order? They're shit.'

'I know.'

El Jarvo wrote: Which bit of that was 'unfavorable'?! (sic)

Some bloke tells you his bird likes the tune you're playing then you commandeer him for the next hour showing him your entire mp3 back catalogue, detailing umpteen versions of esoteric tracks?!

You're lucky the other lad didn't lynch you!

Indeed!**

Joy Division; "They're depressing." New Order; "Is that no them that done the England world cup song." After they'd picked themselves off the floor they'd usually have enough sense knocked into them to zip it!

El Jarvo wrote: Which bit of that was 'unfavorable'?! (sic)

forgot to mention, by the expression on his face, he wants to tell me that i'm weird. But then, since he's new and we just met, he couldn't tell me straight.

Indeed!

I'm Chinese myself.. and this story reminds me of the time I was on 'da Bus last year in Oahu while on vacation... an older lady asked me about "New Order" because I had my "Get Ready" t-shirt on. She looked puzzled, thinking it strange that I was wearing a pro-Nazi shirt. I explained to her that this New Order was a band. To which she said, "ahhh.. a band... my oldest son likes rock music.." etc. Made for a good convo. starter to an otherwise eventless bus ride.

My most "unfavorable" type comment about liking New Order is "don't they just play dance music?" (while discussing about rock music in general with a friend)

King John Honest John wrote: "so he said Aaahh ok"

has he spoken to you since?

well...

he adores Nickelback, and thinks the Goo Goo Dolls are gods.

Enough reasons not to talk to him.

Indeed!

The Sub-Cultured Perfect Kisser*!* wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: Which bit of that was 'unfavorable'?! (sic)

forgot to mention, by the expression on his face, he wants to tell me that i'm weird. But then, since he's new and we just met, he couldn't tell me straight.

Indeed!

i love them first day meet and greets. great way to instantly forget someone.

A gay band.

About the same time bands like Pet Shop Boys and Duran Duran were big in America as some idiots associated new wave bands as being gay-driven. Although a few turned to be such as Neil Tennant and Pete Burns.

Julie : "He's not a very good singer is he?"

"If you like New Order, bet you really love Depeche Mode"

I was wearing a Ceremony t-shirt at a local beer bust and the drummer of a crap indie rock band rolled his eyes and said "Get over it!"

A week later I saw him in a t-shirt for some other 80's band and laughed at him.

£50 Note wrote: A week later I saw him in a t-shirt for some other 80's band and laughed at him.

Duran Duran???

Indeed!

That the lead singer can't sing. I just shrugged it off.

Years ago I used to get the standard "Nazi sympathisers" etc line from those who knew sod all about the band and had swallowed the media's "let's-try-and-convince-the-gullible-public-the-band-are-Hitler-worshipers" bollocks. The reality that the Order frequently did 'left wing' benefit gigs (miners, Glasto etc) during the 80s seemed to be ignored. Let's just say that the band's rep was stoutly defended by me! Fortunately I think you can say that the band's achievements mean that most people give you respect for following a truly awesome band who, to quote a lyric, knew that "their worst is better than than (almost anyone else's) best".

The best tack I've found is to hold their gaze and say something like "The Order are my religious faith actually".

Ps the "Barney can't sing/play" thing: I'd always ask them about their fave vocalists....and then say that the occasional chaos at Order gigs was truly the essence of punk rock and therefore, closer to a visceral dynamic than could ever be attempted through technique alone. People diss Ralf Hutter for a similar reason but he has a unique vocal style too.

Somebody told me they didn't like them that much. I reacted by strangling them with the curtains.

I suppose the fact that I had conversations like that with my pet guinea pig is a more underlying problem but still...the curtains.

YOU are a CNUT.....................:p And that was before they even knew who i listened to!

"Oh...they're still around?"

(this was a couple of years ago, so yes, they were still around.)

The more amusing thing is that several of my younger friends were astounded to hear that what they were listening to in my car was more than 20 years old. I guess that was a backhanded compliment of sorts.

Jackson Withrow wrote: Somebody told me they didn't like them that much. I reacted by strangling them with the curtains.

I suppose the fact that I had conversations like that with my pet guinea pig is a more underlying problem but still...the curtains.

"New Order....you mean they made that orgy song?"

The Sub-Cultured Perfect Kisser*!* wrote: What was the most unfavorable comment/opinion you've received being a New Order fanatic? How did you react to it?

Mine is not really that unfavorable, but then, this it how it goes:

It happened a few months ago when my new officemate, who is fresh from college and is into modern alternative / alternative rock, heard me playing a "different" version of Selfish by The Other Two in my laptop PC. He told me it is one of her girlfriend's favorite track, and wanted a copy of it. He was "surprised" that I have 8 versions of the song. I told him that New Order is my favorite artist.

Then wanted to see my mp3 files, and was more surprised to see 20+ versions of BLT, 30+ versions of BM, and 40+ versions of Crystal (not including tributes / covers). Then I showed him my tribute / cover folders and showed him that I have more than 70 artist who covered LWTUA. Then I know he was slowly puzzled by my collection.

He then ask me if I collect all versions and covers of New Order songs. Of course, I said yes to all I can get, but not all live audio (just selected) stuff, for it will just occupy all of my HD space. I saw him have a puzzled look on his face. I know he's about to ask 'why,' but before he does, I then answered him, "It is the ESSENCE for loving New Order." I continued by telling him my collection is nothing compared to... some of you guys. Told him some even are willing to pay a big amount for some stuff that they don't own, and thier collection cost a fortune...

So I gave him a short history of the band... That they are the pioneers of 12" Versions and Remixes... And most DJs are influenced by them, and love to remix their songs, that is why they have so many versions...

So he just said "Ahhh... okay..." At least he knew the reason and didn't find me "weird."

Indeed!

I don't get it...Is he 'avin a laff? Someone should make a sitcom out of this.... a sketch in Little Britain perhaps?

"but that jetstream lover song is awful"

Two words from my wife about NO: Gay shit.

One word from a new work colleague...... Who?

The first time I was introduced to my girlfriend's best mate, it was the night before the Summer Pops in '06. She said something along the lines of "New Order? Aren't they all mullets and spandex"? Suppose in fairness, she could have seen the TBTHOG video, who knows?

As with the earlier comment, whenever someone compares New Order to Depeche mode and assume I would prefer the latter. Depeche Mode has one good song, Enjoy The Silence, whereas New Order has only one unlistenable song, Liar. And to be honest, I'm even warming up to THAT one!

Razed In A New Division Of Agony wrote: As with the earlier comment, whenever someone compares New Order to Depeche mode and assume I would prefer the latter. Depeche Mode has one good song, Enjoy The Silence, whereas New Order has only one unlistenable song, Liar. And to be honest, I'm even warming up to THAT one!

Yes this has been a constant over the years for me.People always expect me to prefer Depeche Mode for some unfathomable reason

If it's not "Who?" it's "Do you still listen to that crap 80s band?"

Which band of many?

I remember once in middle school being asked to change out of my NO shirt with 'True Faith' written on the back because some teacher took it to mean Very Bad Things. Even after legitimizing the band with a library book on Synthesizer bands, they still said it "offended" unnamed parties.

michael preda wrote: "New Order....you mean they made that orgy song?"

I've heard that one....

...or "hey! that band sounds kinda like the Killers!"

I about strangled the kid...

Never had any unfavorable comments... People go 'who?' or 'oh, yes, they did um, er, ar, thingy, that monday song thing?'

Most unfavorable? My coworker said "Yaz who?" when i said I was going to the Yaz reunion show this summer, so I rattled off a few bands I liked back when, but when she didn't know New Order, I was like "haven't you even heard of Bizarre Love Triangle?" she forwarded me this link -

Bizarre Love Triangle as it is currently used for shows.

Not much I can say to that.

once someone told me Gillian was not pretty....i didn't say nothing cause he is right

the usual joy division are depressing

also not so much of an unfavourable comment just bizarre-"it's a bit old for you is it not"(i'm 31)

i get that about a lot of the music i like

Hardly a comment, but I'm sick of my friends comparing the entire New Order discography to JDs Substance and saying SUbstance is better.

They're two different bands for christs sake! It's not like they were going at the same time, or could have continued as Joy Divsion...It annoys me, okay?

"Isn't that the band with the gay song, everytime I see you falling...da da da.."

Jahn wrote: Most unfavorable? My coworker said "Yaz who?" when i said I was going to the Yaz reunion show this summer, so I rattled off a few bands I liked back when, but when she didn't know New Order, I was like "haven't you even heard of Bizarre Love Triangle?" she forwarded me this link -

Bizarre Love Triangle as it is currently used for shows.

Not much I can say to that.

Thanks for that Jahn. I think my ears are bleeding now...

Jahn wrote: Most unfavorable? My coworker said "Yaz who?" when i said I was going to the Yaz reunion show this summer, so I rattled off a few bands I liked back when, but when she didn't know New Order, I was like "haven't you even heard of Bizarre Love Triangle?" she forwarded me this link -

Bizarre Love Triangle as it is currently used for shows.

Not much I can say to that.

Who put that on Youtube do you think? Her parents, or some other parents to make fun of her? This is almost child abuse of a sort.

Poor kid... growing up I hope her classmates do not find this abomination on the Web, the humilation. She prolly will turn into a suicidal goth teenager who listens to The Cure now.

Oh thats rather un fair, we all know morrisey is ten times more depressed then Robert. She'll listen to his records and perhaps conjure up some voodoo with that Duran Duran wedding album. That or, she'll listen to Linkin Park.

When watching Here To Stay on TOTP one of my friends said that Hooky looked like a caveman

i'm currently corrupting two graduates who have the misfortune to sit next to me at work for their current rotation. they can now identify regret, temptation and blt. they love the order. well the padre keeps telling me to turn it down.

They don't come up in conversation that often for me, to be honest.

Having said that I remember this lad I know, who'd seen me at the Newcastle gig in 06, approaching me a few days later for a general whinge about how shite and embarrassing he thought they were.

My reaction was to tell him that he was talking through his arse

I usually get the standard "WHO???" when asked who my favorite group is. Then of course I have to list some of their hits that I think will jog the person's memory, and it never does. No one really knows any of the music I listen to here in suburban hell. Until he met me, my husband never knew who they were either. I think sometimes he wishes he never learned who they were, to be honest. lol

Until I brought the c.d. player/iPod to work, nobody at my job heard of New Order. One coworker said, when I mentioned "Blue Monday," "Hey, that's that song Orgy did, right?" And another went so far as to say, "Oh, do they sound anything like that crappy new wave from the 80's? It took a lot for me not to jam one of my markers down that moron's throat [hey--I grew up on 80's underground new wave, I took what he said as an insult!!].

Now even my STORE MANAGER bops his head along to :egg:.

Ah, the power of perseverence.

At a party last New Year and was talking to my mate's teenage daughter as she went through his CDs. I asked her, "Has your Dad got any New Order?" To which, she replied, "Who?"

Trans-☼Small-Town Order☼ Express wrote: Until I brought the c.d. player/iPod to work, nobody at my job heard of New Order. One coworker said, when I mentioned "Blue Monday," "Hey, that's that song Orgy did, right?" And another went so far as to say, "Oh, do they sound anything like that crappy new wave from the 80's? It took a lot for me not to jam one of my markers down that moron's throat [hey--I grew up on 80's underground new wave, I took what he said as an insult!!].

Now even my STORE MANAGER bops his head along to :egg:.

Ah, the power of perseverence.

How old are your co-workers? At my office, not everyone knows New Order, but a handful do know them and Joy Division. Others are either casual music listeners or don't listen to English music. The good thing with my colleagues is that none have ever heard of Orgy. Not a bad group of co-workers after all.

Canuck21 wrote:

Trans-☼Small-Town Order☼ Express wrote: Until I brought the c.d. player/iPod to work, nobody at my job heard of New Order. One coworker said, when I mentioned "Blue Monday," "Hey, that's that song Orgy did, right?" And another went so far as to say, "Oh, do they sound anything like that crappy new wave from the 80's? It took a lot for me not to jam one of my markers down that moron's throat [hey--I grew up on 80's underground new wave, I took what he said as an insult!!].

Now even my STORE MANAGER bops his head along to :egg:.

Ah, the power of perseverence.

How old are your co-workers? At my office, not everyone knows New Order, but a handful do know them and Joy Division. Others are either casual music listeners or don't listen to English music. The good thing with my colleagues is that none have ever heard of Orgy. Not a bad group of co-workers after all.

Youngest are the High-Schoolers [16-17 years at the earliest], most are in their 30's-40's, our oldest employee is, I think, 60-some-odd.

It's a shame. Some of said High-Schoolers think that old-school's Busta Rhymes, Janet Jackson, Eminem, and basically anything they remember listening to in school. I should give them proper musical education.

Maybe my Store Owner could help me plot a class on that. Musical Appreciation of a Different Perspective.

My sister...calling and trying...or murdering Bizarre Love Triangle...all she knows is "everytime I see you falling"..I've never felt so pained.

johnny wrote: " New Order?.... didn't they do that Candy Girl song ? "

interesting you say that. candy girl was also produced by arthur baker!

i was told by a friend that they're 'absolute shit.' i put a hit out on him--on these very pages.