Factory: Manchester from Joy Division to Happy Mondays Documentary on BBC2 TONIGHT!

Factory: Manchester from Joy Division to Happy Mondays (Documentary) Time - 23:10 - 00:40 (1 hour and 30 minutes long) When - Saturday 2nd February on BBC 2

Documentary celebrating the triumph, tragedy and human comedy that was Manchester record company, Factory. Started by the late Tony Wilson, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville and Martin Hannett in the late 1970s, it became known as the home of Joy Divsion, New Order and Happy Mondays and for creating the Hacienda club. The label pioneered Britain's independent pop culture, creating a new Manchester and blowing a shed-load of money. Includes interviews with all the main players in the Factory story. (Stereo, Widescreen, Subtitles)

Aye i'll probably have it on yet again if i'm not doin owt else.Must have seen it a few times now.Was on BBC4 again just last week.There's a bit that has become my favourite part.A clip of some Manchester blocks of flats surrounding a grassy area soundtracked by Durrutti Column's 'Experiment in 5th'.It evocatively captures those early 80s days more than Hooky , Barney or Tony do in the whole programme.Not knocking their contribution but that tiny snippet with Durutti playing is marvellous.

that nice mrs order says i can stay up l8 tonight and watch it:D

the past is part of my future

ANYONE who has the SANDPAPER sleeve....DO NOT DUST it will WRECK your DUSTER.Trust me i KNOW!

ive been watching and laughing even more than last time it was on.steve morris commenting on 'buy the building'.

johnny wrote: Aye i'll probably have it on yet again if i'm not doin owt else.Must have seen it a few times now.Was on BBC4 again just last week.There's a bit that has become my favourite part.A clip of some Manchester blocks of flats surrounding a grassy area soundtracked by Durrutti Column's 'Experiment in 5th'.It evocatively captures those early 80s days more than Hooky , Barney or Tony do in the whole programme.Not knocking their contribution but that tiny snippet with Durutti playing is marvellous.

For those south of Watford Gap, there's a bit on it that really fcked me off, and it had nothing to do with Factory et al.

There's a scene when the narrative is referring to Manchester in the early '80s, cue to shot of cobbled street and terraced houses from what looks like the 1960s. Now I lived thru the 80s in Manc and yes parts were grim, but nowhere it did look like a scene from Coronation Street back in Ena Sharples' day. I imagine some fckwit editor in London thought it would be a fckwit editor type thing to do to condescend the viewer with bllshit, sterotypical fckwittery...

Apart from that, an excellent documentary.

banshee wrote: ive been watching and laughing even more than last time it was on.steve morris commenting on 'buy the building'.

Rest of your comments on BCD......CALL THE COPS thread mate!

noorder wrote:

johnny wrote: Aye i'll probably have it on yet again if i'm not doin owt else.Must have seen it a few times now.Was on BBC4 again just last week.There's a bit that has become my favourite part.A clip of some Manchester blocks of flats surrounding a grassy area soundtracked by Durrutti Column's 'Experiment in 5th'.It evocatively captures those early 80s days more than Hooky , Barney or Tony do in the whole programme.Not knocking their contribution but that tiny snippet with Durutti playing is marvellous.

For those south of Watford Gap, there's a bit on it that really fcked me off, and it had nothing to do with Factory et al.

There's a scene when the narrative is referring to Manchester in the early '80s, cue to shot of cobbled street and terraced houses from what looks like the 1960s. Now I lived thru the 80s in Manc and yes parts were grim, but nowhere it did look like a scene from Coronation Street back in Ena Sharples' day. I imagine some fckwit editor in London thought it would be a fckwit editor type thing to do to condescend the viewer with bllshit, sterotypical fckwittery...

Apart from that, an excellent documentary.

it still looks like that down my street even now mate

My fave bit is Tony Wilson saying that punk started in my town.

Was news to me, but I'll go with it.

noorder wrote:

johnny wrote: Aye i'll probably have it on yet again if i'm not doin owt else.Must have seen it a few times now.Was on BBC4 again just last week.There's a bit that has become my favourite part.A clip of some Manchester blocks of flats surrounding a grassy area soundtracked by Durrutti Column's 'Experiment in 5th'.It evocatively captures those early 80s days more than Hooky , Barney or Tony do in the whole programme.Not knocking their contribution but that tiny snippet with Durutti playing is marvellous.

For those south of Watford Gap, there's a bit on it that really fcked me off, and it had nothing to do with Factory et al.

There's a scene when the narrative is referring to Manchester in the early '80s, cue to shot of cobbled street and terraced houses from what looks like the 1960s. Now I lived thru the 80s in Manc and yes parts were grim, but nowhere it did look like a scene from Coronation Street back in Ena Sharples' day. I imagine some fckwit editor in London thought it would be a fckwit editor type thing to do to condescend the viewer with bllshit, sterotypical fckwittery...

Apart from that, an excellent documentary.

Aye agreed ,1960s Coronation St type footage passed of as 1980s Manchester

Burt Reynolds wrote: My fave bit is Tony Wilson saying that punk started in my town.

Was news to me, but I'll go with it.

o yes burt,shall we mention the bromley crew including a certain female punkess

I enjoyed the program..but I now understand how some the Factory "mystique" developed..

Tony Wilson was a influencial player in the media and is *partly* the reason bands like The Happy Mondays got became "legendary"..

If Mute, Rough Trade or Fiction had someone like Tony to hype things up, they would also get BBC docs made on them..

Respect to Tony and Factory records though..

banshee wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote: My fave bit is Tony Wilson saying that punk started in my town.

Was news to me, but I'll go with it.

o yes burt,shall we mention the bromley crew including a certain female punkess

two roads away. Although she hates the place nowadays. I'm claiming it. I was 6. I might have kicked a football over her fence and made her mad. You never know.

Tony Wilson said so. So there.

nice site, i would like to say hello, was around a bit in the 80's, watched the thing again tonight with a few ciders! so decided to drop in so to speak and say hi!

Morning ALEX

wtf is alex?

hello rocket mick, where you at tatton?

Burt Reynolds wrote:

banshee wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote: My fave bit is Tony Wilson saying that punk started in my town.

Was news to me, but I'll go with it.

o yes burt,shall we mention the bromley crew including a certain female punkess

two roads away. Although she hates the place nowadays. I'm claiming it. I was 6. I might have kicked a football over her fence and made her mad. You never know.

Tony Wilson said so. So there.

burt you are very discreet,we both know you did her sush

you NO my name wrote: nice site, i would like to say hello, was around a bit in the 80's, watched the thing again tonight with a few ciders! so decided to drop in so to speak and say hi!

for cider,see hibster

you NO my name wrote: hello rocket mick, where you at tatton?

No.Had not moved over to Chorley and was getting married for the 2nd time so i missed out on this concert even though i only lived in DARWEN.Btw i thought YOU was someone ELSE.No offence and welcome.Those times were rather gloomy but i guess those that lived through em misses it in a nostalgic way.The MYSTERY has gone but not forgotten.

I know I watched this last night but can't remember a thing about it.

Apt really, as I can't remember much about the Factory days.

Some things never change...

banshee wrote: ive been watching and laughing even more than last time it was on.steve morris commenting on 'buy the building'.

The thing is, surely they must have made a fortune when the building was finally sold off to developers.

EDIT...

Although maybe it was tied up in the Factory name and any profit went to creditors

Brst quote was Wilson saying something like "fuck it, who cares how much it cost" when thinking back about having to walk to the office past all these kids having an amazing time

AHW

LeggyD wrote:

The thing is, surely they must have made a fortune when the building was finally sold off to developers.

Probably not. They bought the building far later than you might think and right at the top of the big property price boom. One massive mortgage to keep up with would be enough for most labels but they bought Charles St as well, just in time for the big hike in interest rates and massive drop in property values. So, like so many other people in Britain, they were deep in the negative equity shit and struggling to pay the mortgage. It's unlikely that the value of either property recovered by the time it was sold.

The developers must have cleaned up though. Have you seen how much those apartments are going for?

decided to download the torrent of this from Mininova so if anyone wants it, I'll be seeding for the next day or two

cheers

Noticed a few factual inaccuracies. Like claiming that 1988 was when the Mondays and the Roses were at the height of their popularity and the year that New Order had just completed a big US tour.

My favourite bit was that early footage of Joy Division playing Blockbuster! Thank goodness they abandoned all that glam rock stuff.

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I've got confused again haven't I?