Respect... — Forum Archive — New Order Online

18 Jun 2002, 12:45

I would like to take again the opportunity to tell everyone to READ the Terms of Use & Community Standards.

And I would like to take also the opportunity to tell you to please respect the topic a little more, I know it can't be 100% about New Order, but there is a certain limit to respect, if you want to talk about the FIFA World Cup, gee, start a football thread, not 100!!

And I would also like to ask a few of our latest members to respect others and use lower cases in there messages, using only upper cases is kind of agressive, this usually is used (from my 12 years of chat and electronic exchange experience) for yelling, this is very annoying and I'm sure I'm not the only one to feel that way...

So based on all the recent events, I had no choice to ban a first user since a LONG time, due to abuse of the system and personal attack over another member of the site, this person is Tim Jauncey aka Fred West, which posted hate mail, posted hate information in his profile, I can't tolerate this kind of behaviour, so he's suspended until further notice, until he can proove he can stop acting like a child.

And this goes for everyone, if you want to be a user here, you will have to repect the guidelines and the authorities of this site, sometimes it might not seem fair, but there is a civilized way of doing things, and I think I'm doing this the right way, I gave the opportunity to people to do mistakes, but I sure don't allow them to continue doing them after a serious warning.

I hope this will close the debate, I hope everyone will move forward and stop this non-sense (and this applies to EVERYONE, webmaster or not).

Please use this system with respect of other people and of the topic, we had several complaints about people not using the forum anymore because it was full of off-topic posts or personal posts, even I don't read all the posts like I used to because there is no interest, we are trying to make the forum more interesting for everyone to enjoy, and not only for specific people, I sure hope everyone understand this, this doesn't mean we are selecting our users or everything, we just think that personnal matter and personal stuff should be done privatly in email.

I hope this is okay with everyone, I'm willing to accept your comment on this, bad or good, you can either do it publicly, or privately, as you want, but in respect and in a constructive way, nobody's perfect, and maybe our vision of what this forum should be is not the best one.

Thanks.

Nicolas LeBlanc Webmaster NewOrderOnline.com

18 Jun 2002, 13:52

I have read them and will try my best sir. Rocket Mick

18 Jun 2002, 14:40

This place is not as fun as it used to be. No offense to you, but posting this notice is sort of wierd. at least to me........it gives me the goonie goos!

if it aint Factus.................

18 Jun 2002, 14:56

What are they? Rocket Inquiry

18 Jun 2002, 15:22

This is ground control to Major Tom.... Loud & Clear Nicos :nod: Sorry to take this slightly O/T....but what are the chances of our good friends making a return? I have had quite a few e-mails concerning this subject, and it appears that everyone would love em to return, obviously myself included! The place simply isn't the same - which makes me kinda sad - people are missing out on genuine insights and information concerning the band, can this situation be resolved? I feel like breaking into "A bridge over trobled water" :D

18 Jun 2002, 15:24

yeah and get rid of that nasty ROCKET....:)

18 Jun 2002, 16:49

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18 Jun 2002, 17:05

Sorry to hear that ROSE,can i have his collection of records? Rocket the Mick

18 Jun 2002, 17:31

Originally posted by Rose West

bloody hell, how poignant! which genius wrote that then?

18 Jun 2002, 17:54

I think it is very good that we all do respect each other some more. You know, people are different, have different opinions, different tasts, etc.

That's what makes a forum interesting. Let's all respect each other (even if you are from a country that did not play at the football world cup, oops, sorry, O/T :D ).

And I do hope that this respect will be applicable to everybody, meaning both members/readers of this site and ...

... yep, you know what I mean.

Cheers to you all! Let's all keep up the good new order spirit!!!

DJ

18 Jun 2002, 17:59

Dutch are u on one or what? :) ROCKET NATO

18 Jun 2002, 18:07

ROCKET HAVE WE GOT TO TAKE the caps lock off!!! i feel naked

18 Jun 2002, 18:10

yes it is quite nice once the tablets kick in and i sound more intelligent...so give it a try Paul. ROCKET MICK :) :nod:

18 Jun 2002, 18:13

..........and i thought this was a thread about an Aretha Franklin song :D

18 Jun 2002, 18:14

The Mecca Bingo Hall that was a DANCE HALL must be REBUILT. :lol:

18 Jun 2002, 18:16

WELL I HAVE JUST COME BACK FROM WORK AND UNTIL I HAVE HAD A DRINK...CAPS LOCK REMAIN ON...

P.S LOOKING FORWARD TO MY POSTMAN VISITING...I HOPE MY DOG DONT GET HIM FIRST!!

18 Jun 2002, 18:53

Originally posted by Rocket FLO Sorry to hear that ROSE,can i have his collection of records? Rocket the Mick

HAHAHA ... Another classic Mick !!

18 Jun 2002, 18:56

Yes but i meant it... :lol:

18 Jun 2002, 20:16

Originally posted by ShugZV This is ground control to Major Tom....Loud & Clear Nicos Sorry to take this slightly O/T....but what are the chances of our good friends making a return? I have had quite a few e-mails concerning this subject, and it appears that everyone would love em to return, obviously myself included!The place simply isn't the same - which makes me kinda sad - people are missing out on genuine insights and information concerning the band, can this situation be resolved?I feel like breaking into "A bridge over trobled water" :D

I would have no problem at all with it, this used to be a friendly place, I just hope it will return this way as quickly as possible.

But some people will have to behave in order for this to happen.

18 Jun 2002, 20:17

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18 Jun 2002, 22:31

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by ShugZV This is ground control to Major Tom....Loud & Clear Nicos Sorry to take this slightly O/T....but what are the chances of our good friends making a return? I have had quite a few e-mails concerning this subject, and it appears that everyone would love em to return, obviously myself included!The place simply isn't the same - which makes me kinda sad - people are missing out on genuine insights and information concerning the band, can this situation be resolved?I feel like breaking into "A bridge over trobled water" :D

I would have no problem at all with it, this used to be a friendly place, I just hope it will return this way as quickly as possible.

But some people will have to behave in order for this to happen.I already asked this question in a previous thread afew days ago and was told that there would be no way that these people would be allowed to return.

19 Jun 2002, 00:39

Not that I post here often, but it really isn't as fun as it used to be. I know a lot of people who used to post here including myself who don't anymore because of too much talk about drunkeness and footie. I don't have a problem with it, but it is ridiculous when there are a lot of threads on it that say the same thing over and over and.....well ya get the picture!:D

Missing lots of the NOOL members.:( I wonder if any of them will ever come back? :skeptic: I sure hope so! It would be nice to have some fun around here. ;)

Hey, what happened to my almost 100 posts that I had? ;);) It Looks like I must start from scratch then? I best get busy.

19 Jun 2002, 04:15

Give Nic a bit of credit, His mate's put him in a tough position by being clearly a bit pyscho - plus as he states there needs to be a balance between off/t and on/t, otherwise it does end up becoming boring. It's his site, his messageboard, so lets respect his wishes.

19 Jun 2002, 04:34

I'll actually support the right of the webmasters to ban people they feel are abusing their priveleges. Karen James anyone? Although she/he/it didn't offend me personally, not without trying mind, 'it' obviously put a few people's backs out here and it seems the majority were pleased to see 'it' go.

I do have to say though, from where I'm sitting, it did actually look like Seb threw the first punch. And missed wildly. At least where Sloppy was concerned. I've said v.nice things about this site in the past and have obviously met many people via said forum - not only the Brit-based fans, but even as far abroad as DC, CTB and AWOL A.Reed, half the bloody planet away. But I, for one, was truly gobsmacked when it was suggested that "all the regular posters should f'off over to World In Motion" (or whatever was actually, very unnecessarily, implied). Or that grown men shouldn't post regularly to this site and instead should perhaps [ahem] get a life! An unnecessary reaction which has, sadly, snowballed further unnecessary reactions from other members.

I'd quite like to see Tim back, cos obviously I've met him on numerous occasions, even away from the Order. He was one of the stalwarts of the forum. And obviously I agree that he should perhaps learn to bite his tongue at certain points, even when affronted. Learn. To. Rise. Above. It. We'd all be stupid to bite the hand that feeds us. At the end of the day, it is someone else's ball and they're always gonna have the right to choose who does and doesn't play with it.

19 Jun 2002, 05:18

Would it be possible to name who has been banned and for what reason? ... members sometimes change names and its difficult to work out just who and who hasn't been ousted. Sebastien's personal differences or drifting 'off-topic' surely cannot be the sole reason for the recent mass expulsion? Nick does a great job in calming the forum down, which can't be easy as it would seem, that problems emanate mostly from his counterpart. The creation and continued running of the site is duly commendable also.

British or not, it appears that a hardcore NO massive has been removed to the detrimant of both the forum and the forum users. It would be foolish to think that the community on this website is not now missing out on a vibrant and integral part of the NO fanbase. As Jeff the boy White (aka 'The Jessie') pointed out, after his visit to a NO gig in the UK (it could have been anywhere) and meeting fans who posted at this forum ... where were they when he returned to the States?

Hurtful posts and personal attacks, obviously, should not be tolerated anywhere, and 'off-topic' posts should be curbed as much as possible in an effort to keep the NO discussions at a premium. A little dancing around the subject doesn't harm though and keeps us all active.

:hat:

19 Jun 2002, 06:06

I work in the same office as Tim......he's asked me to forward this onto you Huntsman, as he tried to e-mail it you but your e-mail address bounced.

"Seeing as I have lost right of reply on the board, I'll respond to your question personally. Basically all this started when Seb banned Muffy and co a couple of weeks ago. For some hitherto unexplained reason, I was also banned. I requested a reason from them, but was told by Seb that he had banned me because I was "stupid", "an idiot", and that he didn't like me, somewhat contravening his own rules and regulations he likes to wave under our noses........

I already had another account from way back when some of us got locked out by a database problem, so started using that under the guise of Rose West. Seb began automatically deleting all my postings for no reason, regardless of content. I got my back up and started trying to wind him up a bit, as what he was doing was abusing me on the board, then covering his tracks whenever Nic was online.

Now Nic has kicked me, and Rose, out of the site altogether, with the proviso that I can return when I learn how to behave. Maybe he should take a look at his colleague before he starts throwing his weight around.

For my part, I have no wish to return to be a puppet at the mercy of the Boisvert ego, if he is beyond reproach for his antics. I have collected a number of e-mail addresses of regular and valued correspondents, and if I need to contact anyone, can do so through e-mail or on any of the other fora."

Webmasters please note that I am a messenger here, not a co-conspirator.....

19 Jun 2002, 06:12

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by ShugZV This is ground control to Major Tom....Loud & Clear Nicos Sorry to take this slightly O/T....but what are the chances of our good friends making a return? I have had quite a few e-mails concerning this subject, and it appears that everyone would love em to return, obviously myself included!The place simply isn't the same - which makes me kinda sad - people are missing out on genuine insights and information concerning the band, can this situation be resolved?I feel like breaking into "A bridge over trobled water" :D

I would have no problem at all with it, this used to be a friendly place, I just hope it will return this way as quickly as possible.

But some people will have to behave in order for this to happen.

Yes, some people will have to behave.

19 Jun 2002, 06:25

Originally posted by Jenny Walton I work in the same office as Tim......he's asked me to forward this onto you Huntsman, as he tried to e-mail it you but your e-mail address bounced. * "Seeing as I have lost right of reply on the board, I'll respond to your question personally. Basically all this started when Seb banned Muffy and co a couple of weeks ago. For some hitherto unexplained reason, I was also banned. I requested a reason from them, but was told by Seb that he had banned me because I was "stupid", "an idiot", and that he didn't like me, somewhat contravening his own rules and regulations he likes to wave under our noses........I already had another account from way back when some of us got locked out by a database problem, so started using that under the guise of Rose West. Seb began automatically deleting all my postings for no reason, regardless of content. I got my back up and started trying to wind him up a bit, as what he was doing was abusing me on the board, then covering his tracks whenever Nic was online.Now Nic has kicked me, and Rose, out of the site altogether, with the proviso that I can return when I learn how to behave. Maybe he should take a look at his colleague before he starts throwing his weight around.For my part, I have no wish to return to be a puppet at the mercy of the Boisvert ego, if he is beyond reproach for his antics. I have collected a number of e-mail addresses of regular and valued correspondents, and if I need to contact anyone, can do so through e-mail or on any of the other fora." * Webmasters please note that I am a messenger here, not a co-conspirator.....

I've asked on a number of times for my e-mail address to be changed and my profile be removed from general view. I know Nick's busy but if he could modify these settings for me it would be appreciated otherwise I will continue to miss e-mails from people.

Tim (via JW) ... thanks for the explanation which I'm sure everyone will have found interesting, if not very surprising. It seems evident that a great deal of contradiction has and is taking place. Perhaps if things alter with the running of this site you and others will hopefully return. The misconception that the forum is bigger than a considerable amount of true NO fans is clear, at least you can keep in touch via e-mail for the moment. I would like to clarify that I continue to post in the hope that everyone is re-instated (like I was) and because this site is the single most important NO contact point on the internet, possibly the world (as the net can be accessed internationally by so many).

I'll send you my own e-mail address now for future reference.

:hat:

19 Jun 2002, 06:25

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Rose West> Just thought you should all know.......Fred's hanged himself. He couldn't deal with the enormity and severity of his crimes, so took what would be seen by many to be an appropriately altruistic way out. In his letter to me, he wished to pass on his apologies to anyone who suffered at the hands of his keyboard, in particular that nice little French-Canadian guy with the inferiority complex. He hopes you all have pleasant lives, even though one of you will never ever be able to have a pleasant life.> > As somebody once wrote, love will tear us apart.

BTW, what does the fact that I am French-Canadian have to do in this thing anyway?

It seems one or two of arguments descended into farce partly down to the language barrier and that's just from where I've been able to read between the lines. I'm not saying this has always been the case but it is a factor when even amongst native English speakers, a web based forum can lead to mis-understandings. The above would seem a good example of a an insult being thrown and the recipient not being the target.

19 Jun 2002, 06:45

Can anyone provide me with Tim's e-mail address as Jenny's address (above) is faulty goods.

:hat: