Electronic performing "Vivid" live on TFI Friday 1999 video here
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recycle wrote: Was that Phil playing guitar in the background?
Yep! He actually played additional guitar on the Twisted Tenderness album and played on the various TV appearances they did around that time, too. Cool shit.
Remember watching - and taping - this off C4 at the time.
New Order did Regret on TFI the year before as well so Chris Evans was obviously a fan.
Phil was a member of the Twisted Tenderness 'live' band but didn't play on the studio album; he isn't credited on any releases of the time. Jimi Goodwin of Doves was present in both the TT live band and on record though.
It's a crying shame they didn't tour really - the live setup (as the clip shows) and tunes were definitely there.
Controversially (I'm sure) but with the exception of Crystal I've always found TT a much better listen to than Get Ready. Nobody likes Hooky and Steve being out of the picture but too much of GR just grinded along without much of a change in style or tempo.
By comparison TT still sounds fresh today 
Ally wrote: By comparison TT still sounds fresh today
No it doesn't Ally. Really, is doesn't. Not to these ears.
'Electronic' itself is a barnstormer of an album. I'd put that up there with some of the best of New Order. Every track tells a story for me. But the two other Electronic albums - both utterwank!
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El Jarvo wrote:
Ally wrote: By comparison TT still sounds fresh today
No it doesn't Ally. Really, is doesn't. Not to these ears.
Would've at least had you down as a fan of Make It Happen, Al.
It's got that electro/hip hop influence all over it 
a proper storming opener.
That and Prodigal Son alone blows 75% of Get Ready out of the water for me.
I'm saying this as an ardent Hooky fan as well 
El Jarvo wrote: But the two other Electronic albums - both utterwank!
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks that! 
I've always been interested to know more about how they covered Can't Find My Way Home, yet I have never heard Marr talk about Eric Clapton. He's never shy of talking about his heros and influences, and it's quite rare to get a cover version out of him.
My guess, with nothing really behind it, is that Marr thinks Clapton stinks as a guitarist and also personally.
Anyone know any different?
Care?
The story goes (from the Twisted Tenderness interview CD) that Neil Tennant used to regularly call Electronic a "Blind Faith for the nineties" and Barney and Johnny didn't have a clue what he was on about. The meaning was obviously, Blind Faith were a supergroup from the 60s/70s and Electronic was the 90s equivilant.
When they brought Arthur Baker on board to co-produce Twisted Tenderness he used to loan Marr records and loaned him the BF one with Can't Find My Way Home on it. I don't think Marr was too familiar with Clapton nor a massive fan beforehand but loved the song and wanted them to attempt a version for the album.
What you hear on the album is Bernard's first take of the vocal
Nick King wrote:
El Jarvo wrote: But the two other Electronic albums - both utterwank!
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks that!
For added controversy - I actually prefer RTP to TT... 
But saying that RTP only has a couple of really good tunes on... And Forbidden City is simply wonderful...
Snorri xxx
I always thought Stevie Winwood did the original of Cant Find My Way Home. I have to say, that Barneys vocals on this track are quite possibly his worst ever. Even worse than Subculture or Only Time Can Tell.
I too think it would have been brilliant if Electronic had toured this album. As it had a live band recording it and Im sure it would have rocked.
Yeah, Steve Winwood, when he was in Blind Faith, sang it originally. But I far more prefer Electronics version and Barney's vocal version. Maybe its just preference? And yeah, I'm a Winwood fan, too.
And yeah, New Order live on TFI doing Regret used to be on Youtibe, but I don't see it there anymore, wtf?
Nick King wrote:
El Jarvo wrote: But the two other Electronic albums - both utterwank!
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks that!
You two just have nae taste. TT is the bollocks.
I'm here Ally (been in a meeting for the last two hours) 
Snorrimon wrote:
Nick King wrote:
El Jarvo wrote: But the two other Electronic albums - both utterwank!
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks that!
For added controversy - I actually prefer RTP to TT...
Snorri xxx
I love TT and its a tie between that and the self-titled for me, but RTP has really begun to grow on me more and more over the years... and have found myself listening to it quite a bit lately. And yes.. songs like Forbidden City, Out of my League, and Dark Angel are simply beautiful pieces of work. At first I wasn't too thrilled with it, for some reason. Maybe I was expecting it to be more like NO or te first album, but its definitely very appreciated now. Can;t deny the genius of it. But some of the songs aren't that great and moving, but they are still very quality.
Rev Big wrote: I've always been interested to know more about how they covered Can't Find My Way Home, yet I have never heard Marr talk about Eric Clapton. He's never shy of talking about his heros and influences, and it's quite rare to get a cover version out of him.
My guess, with nothing really behind it, is that Marr thinks Clapton stinks as a guitarist and also personally.
Anyone know any different?
Care?
Maybe he thinks Clapton's an ass! 
For what it's worth, I think 'Get Ready' shat all over anything 'Electronic' ever attempted and that 'Twisted Tenderness' is the only Electronic album worth buying, with 'Vivid' as the best track they ever did.
Chris Nash wrote: For what it's worth, I think 'Get Ready' shat all over anything 'Electronic' ever attempted and that 'Twisted Tenderness' is the only Electronic album worth buying, with 'Vivid' as the best track they ever did.
Vivid is definitely up there with the best they did, but Haze on the same album trumps it for me and it's not as good as Forbidden City or Feel Every Beat. The first album is the best, no question. RTP has three or four really good songs and FC which I just mentioned, but I agree with Ally. TT still sounds fresh today (except fer CFMWH)
The biggest shame is the bastards not touring, fair enough the 89/91 shows were pretty shambolic, but they couldnae be arsed, if they could have they coulda been BIG
Meatballs586 wrote: I far more prefer Electronic's version and Barney's vocal version. Maybe its just preference?
Me too.
Marr's guitar work on this track is easily better than any Blind Faith/Clapton version I've heard. It's one track where he really shows his class as a guitarist. Picknig that fast on a 12 string is something that most people would never get right. Just lovely.
And Barney's vocals being quite thin, sounding almost like he was making them up as he went along, complements the song in a funny way.
It's a strange track, despite it's faults, and I've always really liked it.
El Jarvo wrote:
Ally wrote: By comparison TT still sounds fresh today
No it doesn't Ally. Really, is doesn't. Not to these ears.
'Electronic' itself is a barnstormer of an album. I'd put that up there with some of the best of New Order. Every track tells a story for me. But the two other Electronic albums - both utterwank!
(Will a comment like that prompt DoN to post again?
Hi Al,
Where has he been? Last time I saw him around was here in Brazil.
Take care
Rev Big wrote:
Meatballs586 wrote: I far more prefer Electronic's version and Barney's vocal version. Maybe its just preference?
Me too.
Marr's guitar work on this track is easily better than any Blind Faith/Clapton version I've heard. It's one track where he really shows his class as a guitarist. Picknig that fast on a 12 string is something that most people would never get right. Just lovely.
And Barney's vocals being quite thin, sounding almost like he was making them up as he went along, complements the song in a funny way.
It's a strange track, despite it's faults, and I've always really liked it.
ah, but this is the classic Barney we all know & love. back in the days of no teleprompters to help with lyrics. i didn't see any during this performance, hence why he stumbled just a bit.
