NEW PETER HOOK INTERVIEW

In a latest issue of the UK's Bass Guitar Magazine (issue 36, out now), Peter Hook is interviewed by writer and author Joel McIver about his life and work with Joy Division, New Order, Monaco and the forthcoming Freebass project. Among many other topics, Hooky clarifies the status of New Order: when McIver asked him: " It's hard for fans to know what's really happening with New Order", he replied, "It isn't. New Order have split up, and that's it. The only thing that made it hard was that Bernard and Stephen decided to turn around and say that they hadn't split up. What I simply said was that I would consider New Order to have split if one of them had left. I wouldn't carry on – and I don't see how they could even consider it. I wouldn't consider carrying on with New Order as me and Stephen, or me and Bernard. I'd say, let's knock it on the head and fuckin' start again. But them two decided, whether it was out of anger or whatever, that they were gonna carry on as New Order. And I've said, you're not fuckin' New Order, mate! That was our argument. We've split up. I'm not working with Bernard or Stephen again." McIver also became the first journalist to hear music from Freebass, receiving an exclusive preview in Hooky's home studio, and writes about the new songs in the feature.

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Is Gillian a non-entity or something? It's not okay to carry on with New Order if Hooky leaves, or Stephen leaves or if Bernard leaves. But Gillian....she's replaceable? He thought it was okay to carry on after Gillian left. Why isn't it okay for Bernard and Stephen to do the same after he leaves? I'm not saying it would be the same, or that he is replaceable. It's just that his comments tick me off sometimes.

Liz wrote: Is Gillian a non-entity or something? It's not okay to carry on with New Order if Hooky leaves, or Stephen leaves or if Bernard leaves. But Gillian....she's replaceable?

yeah that's always bothered me too. I know other people have pointed out in these forums that the agreement was originally between the members of JD, i.e., pre-Gillian... but still it seems like an oversight-- esp. considering the marked decline in quality of their output ever since her departure! maybe she should have carried on alone as New Order...

Liz wrote: Is Gillian a non-entity or something? It's not okay to carry on with New Order if Hooky leaves, or Stephen leaves or if Bernard leaves. But Gillian....she's replaceable? He thought it was okay to carry on after Gillian left. Why isn't it okay for Bernard and Stephen to do the same after he leaves? I'm not saying it would be the same, or that he is replaceable. It's just that his comments tick me off sometimes.

Gillian quit the band to look after her and Stephens sick daughter. She was easily the most dispensable member of the band.

My favourite part of the Interview is where he says "I'm not working with Bernard or Stephen again"

worldinmotion wrote: "I'm not working with Bernard or Stephen again."

Why?

DigitalWaters wrote:

worldinmotion wrote: "I'm not working with Bernard or Stephen again."

Why?

Can't you read?

The fact that Barney and Stephen said they were going to continue on isn't what confused me. It was all the times Hooky said he was done with them and then said he would do a benefit concert for Tony Wilson, or a one-off festival, or release the remaining tracks they have in their "piggy bank", all of which require working with Bernard and Stephen. I wonder what has made him angry this time around to be back to the "never working with them again" stance. He seemed to backpedal for a while there.

Is there a direct link to the interview??

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

DigitalWaters wrote:

worldinmotion wrote: "I'm not working with Bernard or Stephen again."

Why?

Can't you read?

No. I'm blind, but I have a neural net that can interpolate digitised signals.

So why won't he work with them?

Seems a bit daft to be falling out with your life long buddies just 'coz they don't want to tour so much.

I call it Alan wilder victim syndrome.

I think it's a matter of perception among the members (or former, if Hooky wants to be considered a former member). Hooky perceives it that they've broken up, Bernard (and possibly Steve) have perceived it that Hooky's simply left the band (the band on hiatus, in other words).

(I've read an interview from Barney in a Japanese music magazine a month or so ago, and he's said something of the sort---that Hooky's left, but that he (Bernard) doesn't consider the band to have 'split up' literally, and that there was no formal agreement to 'break up' the band among the three (Bernard, Hooky, Steve).

But while I'm waiting for the song 'Miracle Cure' to be officially released, I'm curious as to what Freebass might sound like.

Why do I get the feeling with Hook it's all about the Benjamins (or, wait it's England - all about the Queenies)?

Didn't Freebase do the theme to a show called The Tube? I heard it and was fairly uninspired - believe it or not, too much bass.

this sounds like an old interview in a recent mag, this is the state it was in about 6 months ago, i'm sure they've moved on since then.

can we put it to bed please, it's boring.

Same ol' same.... maybe they could carry on as NO by recording in seperate rooms and performing in seperate cubicles up on stage!

Jed Stephens wrote: this sounds like an old interview in a recent mag, this is the state it was in about 6 months ago, i'm sure they've moved on since then.

can we put it to bed please, it's boring.

I am inclined to agree that this may be an interview done a while ago. As I said earlier, it seems as though Hooky has softened his position a little over time.

I don't know about the issue being boring, but it sure is repetitive. I know Hooky probably gets asked about the split a lot, but if he handled himself properly in interviews, this would be over and done with by now.

Liz wrote:

I don't know about the issue being boring, but it sure is repetitive. I know Hooky probably gets asked about the split a lot, but if he handled himself properly in interviews, this would be over and done with by now.

Hooky has always (in teh last 15 years at least) been the most open member of the band, Barney always the least, it's a no win situation, if you tell people what's happening, you're accused of shouting your mouth off, if you say nothing, you're ignoring your fans. both have different personalities, neither is right or wrong.

What is boring is not the status of the band (I'm sure they'll make up and do something in the future, they've been at this point several times before), but people who call themselves fans slagging off members of the band because they don't agree with their opinion, I've been guilty of that, and I'm trying not to do it now.

Jed Stephens wrote:

Liz wrote:

I don't know about the issue being boring, but it sure is repetitive. I know Hooky probably gets asked about the split a lot, but if he handled himself properly in interviews, this would be over and done with by now.

Hooky has always (in teh last 15 years at least) been the most open member of the band, Barney always the least, it's a no win situation, if you tell people what's happening, you're accused of shouting your mouth off, if you say nothing, you're ignoring your fans. both have different personalities, neither is right or wrong.

What is boring is not the status of the band (I'm sure they'll make up and do something in the future, they've been at this point several times before), but people who call themselves fans slagging off members of the band because they don't agree with their opinion, I've been guilty of that, and I'm trying not to do it now.

The voice of reason!

I wish there was a way that this all could have played out where there was no mud slung in anyone's direction. My main concern is that with all these quotes flying about, some of which Hooky has said have been taken out of context, the more water there is under the bridge. There will be a point where there is so much resentment that there is no way to go back. This is why I feel that enough has been said on the subject and that Hooky should exercise caution while in an interview. If there is any chance at all that they will reunite down the road, it really has to be laid to rest for the time being. JMO....I don't think I am slagging on Hooky or any less a fan for saying so. I just think that Stephen, Bernard and Hooky should treat each other with respect.

To be honest this whole Free Bass thingymajig sounds well contentious.

As I haven't even heard anything remotely musical from it, I presume it's all a red herring (ha ha ha, did you just see that then, arf!) and the whole shebang is merely the sight and sound of Hooky, Rourke and Mani taking command inside Manchester fish market, yelling at passers by offering all and sundry complimentary portions of the aforenamed piscine treat. I would certainly be there like a shot waiting for first helpings, I tell you.

:p

I wish Freebass all the luck in the world but how long can it last? Hooky wants to play live and tour, but the other two members have other bands to devote time to, don't they? It seems that trying to find time to devote to each of the other bands and Freebass could be a problem that will again put a strain on all the members involved. Much like Revenge and Monaco I don't know if it will last past a couple of albums...

It's taking years for a Freebass release to appear and they are having trouble on agreeing when to perform live.

Sounds a bit like New Order!

Screw it. Barney, Hooky, and Stephen should have no baise like myself. Hate everyone equally, then you don't get into stupid tiffs like this.

DigitalWaters wrote: It's taking years for a Freebass release to appear and they are having trouble on agreeing when to perform live.

Sounds a bit like New Order!

Brian Barker wrote: Much like Revenge and Monaco I don't know if it will last past a couple of albums...

Well thats the next decade sorted then.

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Brian Barker wrote: Much like Revenge and Monaco I don't know if it will last past a couple of albums...

Well thats the next decade sorted then.

And then they'll be 60...

everythings gone grey

Then again the same old story...

There's also an interesting article about the Eccleshalls.

£3600 including flightcase!!!!

Chris Eccleshall points out that it's about 50 pence an hour in man hours.

mediamark wrote: There's also an interesting article about the Eccleshalls.

£3600 including flightcase!!!!

Chris Eccleshall points out that it's about 50 pence an hour in man hours.

does he point out that he doesn't answer emails either.