ok,

the perfect kiss has always been my favorite song by 'new order'...(tied with 'blue monday')....

and i don't know how many years i've been looking for it.. but i finally found a copy of :

7": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 123-7) [promo] 3:51 The Perfect Kiss (edit) 3:01 Kiss of Death (edit)

with those 2 exclusive edits..

i guess that leaves this:

7": UK 1985 (Lyntone 7LYN15645-1) [metal testpress] The Perfect Kiss (LP version) The Kiss of Death (alternate remix) ??????

does anyone know if its any different?

so far the total mixes are:

the perfect kiss 4:48 v, cd, cs the perfect kiss (album edit) 4:10 v the perfect kiss (7" edit) 4:23 v the perfect kiss (7" promo edit) 3:51 v the perfect kiss (12" extended) 8:46 v the perfect kiss (live bbc1) 10:05 v, cd
the perfect kiss (live edit) 5:18 v the perfect kiss (live video) 9:55 cd, ld the perfect kiss (live retro) 9:55 cd the perfect kiss (substance) 8:02 v, cd, cs perfect pit 1:20 v, cs

kiss of death (7" edit or inst) 5:09 v kiss of death (7" promo edit) 3:01 v kiss of death (12") 7:02 v, cd, cs

===========================

it would be nice to get some of those on cd at some point in time..

later -1

LP version?????

my favorite TPK version/s:

Razormaid Hot Tracks 1, 2, and 3

"the perfect kiss (live edit) 5:18 v"

FYI: This also appears on iTunes as part of a New Order Remixes compilation.

Nick King wrote: "the perfect kiss (live edit) 5:18 v"

FYI: This also appears on iTunes as part of a New Order Remixes compilation.

yeah, i know, i haven't updated the digital availability of tracks, since those are:

1. depends on what country you're in
2. subpar quality

if there was some lossless versions to buy, then we would be in better shape..

later -1

I walked into town on my lunchbreak (12pm - 1 pm) on Tuesday May 14th 1985 (had tried the previous Monday but they weren't in) and bought Low Life on vinyl and Perfect Kiss 12" vinyl from Fat City records in Rugby.It was a rainy lunchtime as i recall.Then i went back to work and every opportunity i had (2.17pm, 3.59pm, 4.56pm and 5.17pm) i went and held both of them in my hand and thought hmmm i like the cover of Low Life but i'm disappointed with the plain silver cover of Perfect Kiss.Then finished my day at work, went home , had my tea, then listened to both of them in my bedroom starting at 7.37pm.Beat that, -1 mwahhhahahaha!!!

Also to add, i got home at 6.33pm.Had my tea round 6.57pm (Shephards Pie and then Angel Delight for dessert) Probably coveted again the two Vinyls whilst eating my meal at , ooohh 7.03pm and 7.17pm ?)

I can try and find out what temperature the Shephards pie was at the start and then end of meal. And also the coolage of the Angel Delight.Let me know if you want those readings, -1 I will delve into my May 1985 meal time settings if you need the information/ Can also supply the time it took me to eat

Ghetto Wasp wrote:

some people like details, you know..

ha ha..

later -1

Johnny, can you also let us know whether you had vegetables with the Shepherds Pie and the flavour of the Angel Delight please...

Snorri xxx

the original 12" single is all you really need.

0_o wrote: the original 12" single is all you really need.

Major Tarantino wrote:

0_o wrote: the original 12" single is all you really need.

to me, the video and retro versions are just as good as the 12inch mix..

later -1

-1 wrote:

perfect kiss versions

ok, it would be nice to get some of those on cd at some point in time..

-1

I've got a lot of the UK 7" and 12" versions in digital quality... Don't ask me how I got these! And please don't ask/tell me I used some declick software program! Send me a PM if interested...

musicoloog wrote:

-1 wrote:

perfect kiss versions

ok, it would be nice to get some of those on cd at some point in time..

-1

I've got a lot of the UK 7" and 12" versions in digital quality... Don't ask me how I got these! And please don't ask/tell me I used some declick software program! Send me a PM if interested...

Here already Perfect Pit (available for a limited period only)

thanks for the mix..

yeah, i've transferred all my vinyl, and will transfer these new edits once i get them..

if anyone is interested..

let me know.

later -1

Snorrimon wrote: and the flavour of the Angel Delight please...

Snorri xxx

Tell me it was Butterscotch. The WORLD needs to know.

I've found yet another unique version on a Canadian promo 12". It runs for about 6 minutes and is essentially the same as the 4:48 LP mix but doesn't fade out quite as early.

I wonder if there is a full length version somewhere with the "When you are alone..." verse intact?

musicoloog wrote:

Let me know if your transfers sound better than these...

excellent job, i'll give them all a listen..

thanks for your hard efforts..

later -1

indiearchivist wrote: I've found yet another unique version on a Canadian promo 12". It runs for about 6 minutes and is essentially the same as the 4:48 LP mix but doesn't fade out quite as early.

Sounds very interesting. Could you send me an mp3 of this one?

indiearchivist wrote: I wonder if there is a full length version somewhere with the "When you are alone..." verse intact?

That would probably the original 12"? Or do you mean some kind of combination of the original 12" with the album intro?

Does anyone have the Canadian promo 7" with cat.nr. Factory/Polygram DJ 81? I really would love to hear this edit...

musicoloog wrote:

indiearchivist wrote: I've found yet another unique version on a Canadian promo 12". It runs for about 6 minutes and is essentially the same as the 4:48 LP mix but doesn't fade out quite as early.

Sounds very interesting. Could you send me an mp3 of this one?

indiearchivist wrote: I wonder if there is a full length version somewhere with the "When you are alone..." verse intact?

That would probably the original 12"? Or do you mean some kind of combination of the original 12" with the album intro?

---

Does anyone have the Canadian promo 7" with cat.nr. Factory/Polygram DJ 81? I really would love to hear this edit...

that canadian promo 7" has the same mix as this: 12": CA 1985 (Factory/Polygram DJF 159) [promo]

i've been looking for these promos also, but have only found the 12" mix on both sides...they might come on ebay from time to time..

by the way, all your remasters are excellent quality !!!!

very good job, and thanks..

later -1

-1 wrote:

that canadian promo 7" has the same mix as this: 12": CA 1985 (Factory/Polygram DJF 159) [promo]

i've been looking for these promos also, but have only found the 12" mix on both sides...they might come on ebay from time to time..

Is it possible you could send me an mp3 of the 4:10 edit?

-1 wrote: by the way, all your remasters are excellent quality !!!!

very good job, and thanks..

later -1

I didn't remaster them actually, I just got them from... let's say from a former 'factory-worker' relation... I got more rare 7" edits (a's and b-sides), some already long before they finally ended up on the 'Singles' compilation, like:

1. In A Lonely Place (7" Edit)
2. Everything's Gone Green (7" Edit), slightly different version
3. Temptation (3.28 Edit) same as 'Something Wild' version
4. Hurt (7" Edit)
5. Blue Monday (4.27 Edit) mega rare edit
6. The Beach (4.09 Edit) mega rare edit
7. Confusion (UK 7") like the 'Retro' version , this one sounds like it's mastered from vinyl, perhaps the original masters have been very "overmixed/overproduced" by Arthur Baker
8. Confusion (German 7") as above
9. Lonesome Tonight (7" Edit)
10. Thieves Like Us (Instrumental Edit) plays US 12" b-side version of 'Shellshock', not the 7" edit with unique intro...
11. Shame Of The nation (7" Edit)
12. Bizarre Love Triangle (Stephen Hague 7") same as 'Married To the Mob' version
13. Bizarre Dub Triangle (7" Edit)
14. Paradise (Robert Racic 7")
15. Paradise (Robert Racic 7") this one has the same intro as the 12"
16. True Faith (7" Edit)
17. True Faith (Shep Pettibone 4.04 7" Edit)
18. Touched By the hand of Dub (7" Edit)
19. Beach Buggy (7" Edit)
20. Fine Time (7" Edit) completely different as the original, perhaps this is the matrix #2 version [?]
21. The Happy One

These tracks were compiled on a 2 cdr-audio set, early 90's. The discs include also other original 7" versions, which can be found now on the 'Singles' compilation, therefor not mentioned here. Some time later I got another couple of cdr's with still-unreleased-onto-cd-tracks, mainly the radio friendly versions...:

1. Blue Monday (4.09 Japanese Edit)
2. Blue Monday (4.32 Edit) same as 'video version'
3. Video 5.8.6. (Edit) same as 'video version'[?]
4. Theme
5. Subculture (Remix Edit) same as Dutch 7"
6. Dub-vulture (7" Edit)
7. Shellshock (12" Edit) same as 'Pretty in Pink' version
8. Thieves Like Us Instrumental [alternative edit] not the Shellshock b-side version
9. Shellcock
10. Bizarre Love Triangle (US Promo 7" Edit)
11. Bizarre Love Triangle (Remixed & Edited) [1] same as UK 7"
12. Bizarre Love Triangle (Remixed & Edited) [2] same as 'Threesome' version
13. Bizarre Love Triangle (Remixed & Edited) [3] same as 'video version', but without the vocal sample
14. Evil Dust
15. True Faith (Shep Pettibone Mix) same as 'Bright Lights, Big City' version
16. True Faith (Shep Pettibone 3.52 7" Edit) same as the one on the Filipino 7", but different to the US edit
17. Blue Monday 1988 (Promo Edit) same as original, but with early fade
18. Blue Monday 1988 (Dub)
19. Round & Round (Album Edit) same as US promo edit [?]
20. Run2 (7" Version)
21. Confusion (1990 mix by Dimitri) same as 'Volume' version
22. World In Motion... (Subbuteo Edit) not sure if this has been released somewhere [?]
23. World In Motion... (Subbuteo Dub) same as 12"Remix edit, including vocal samples
24. Ruined In A Day (K-Klass Radio Edit)
25. World (Tony Garcia Radio Mix)
26. Spooky (Out Of Order) same as the 'Special Extended Version'

Some of these above have been released onto CD, but so far I only got them on these cdr's... Also, some tracks have the same name. There wasn't any artwork or printed tracklist as you can imagine... For a long time in the 90's I didn't consider these versions special, but it seems there are still a lot of New order tracks unavavilable on CD, so these tracks become more and more 'little treasures'.

-1 wrote:

Major Tarantino wrote:

0_o wrote: the original 12" single is all you really need.

to me, the video and retro versions are just as good as the 12inch mix..

later -1

video version is fine because it is a different recording but all these other edits of Perfect Kiss are basically just edits of the same thing, are they not, not really different mixes like the Kiss of Death. Do any of these Perfect Kiss edits really stand out?

I understand the desire to collect, but it seems like you are getting carried away.

musicoloog wrote:

-1 wrote:

thanks for the mix..

yeah, i've transferred all my vinyl, and will transfer these new edits once i get them..

if anyone is interested..

let me know.

later -1

Let me know if your transfers sound better than these... The Perfect Kiss (UK 7") The Perfect Kiss (FBN 7") The Perfect Kiss (Phil 7") The Perfect Kiss (CDN/USA promo) The Perfect Kiss (UK 12") The Sunrise ('Debut Magazine #11' Edit)

incredibly great; thanks!

0_o wrote: video version is fine because it is a different recording but all these other edits of Perfect Kiss are basically just edits of the same thing, are they not, not really different mixes like the Kiss of Death. Do any of these Perfect Kiss edits really stand out?

I understand the desire to collect, but it seems like you are getting carried away.

depends on your mood..

do you have 8 minutes to listen to the full version? or 10 for the video version?

if you don't you can hear the edits?

tired of the album version, want something shorter, listen to the 7inch edit..

don't want all the lyrics? listen to the kiss of death..

want something really short? perfect pit..

it just depends on how you feel..

its my favorite song, and i'm a collector, that's why i want every version of every song that new order has put out..

later -1

I am a collector as well, and I would like to have - or at least hear once - all the different versions. Sometimes I wonder why they make so many different edits/versions of one particular song, like BLT, TF or TPK. And who's responsible for this; who decides there has to be another edit...??? Questions, questions... we probably never get the answers to...

musicoloog wrote: I am a collector as well, and I would like to have - or at least hear once - all the different versions. Sometimes I wonder why they make so many different edits/versions of one particular song, like BLT, TF or TPK. And who's responsible for this; who decides there has to be another edit...??? Questions, questions... we probably never get the answers to...

actually that's pretty easy, you need different versions for the radio, different versions for the club...and for the album.

dj's get special edits..

it's all done as Promotion by the label for the band.

later -1

Nahhh, this answer ís too easy... Besides that, in the 80's DJ'ing was a completely different thing as it is nowadays. Of course I know there are single edits, long/ extended versions and instrumental/dub versions for radio, club and DJ use. What I mean is there are sometimes tiny differences in some versions, for instance: Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone single mix) = (Remixed & Edited) [3:44] Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone US promo mix) [3:36] Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone video version) [3:53] Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone video 'edit' - no sample) [3:44] Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone 'Threesome' edit) [3:23]

5 (!) slightly different versions of one single, more or less all for radio/tv use.

musicoloog wrote: Nahhh, this answer ís too easy... Besides that, in the 80's DJ'ing was a completely different thing as it is nowadays. Of course I know there are single edits, long/ extended versions and instrumental/dub versions for radio, club and DJ use. What I mean is there are sometimes tiny differences in some versions, for instance: Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone single mix) = (Remixed & Edited) [3:44] Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone US promo mix) [3:36] Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone video version) [3:53] Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone video 'edit' - no sample) [3:44] Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone 'Threesome' edit) [3:23]

5 (!) slightly different versions of one single, more or less all for radio/tv use.

Bizarre love Triangle(Shep Pettibone single mix) = (Remixed & Edited) [3:44] - done for the single release

Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone US promo mix) [3:36] - made specifically for us release

Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone video version) [3:53]

• needed different cut for the video

Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone video 'edit' - no sample) [3:44] - in case they couldn't get clearance for the sample?

Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone 'Threesome' edit) [3:23]

• needed new version for movie

later -1

God damn you have an answer for everything. I like, though.

Knuckles wrote: God damn you have an answer for everything. I like, though.

Well, these are not really answers, but just looking for explanations to sound like someone who seems to know everything... as if I don't know where these versions were used for... So, tell me, what's the 'need' in putting a special different version on a US promo, bother to re-edit the original mix for the video...etc. etc. It just makes no sense.

musicoloog wrote:

Knuckles wrote: God damn you have an answer for everything. I like, though.

Well, these are not really answers, but just looking for explanations to sound like someone who seems to know everything... as if I don't know where these versions were used for... So, tell me, what's the 'need' in putting a special different version on a US promo, bother to re-edit the original mix for the video...etc. etc. It just makes no sense.

of course i didn't work for factory/london..

but i did work with group KMFDM for some time, and when i asked about why they had so many releases, edits, etc, they told it was all due to marketing, and different regions. the band didn't have that much control about what got released after the label took it. now they control their own music, so they can control it a lot better..

the same situation probably happened for new order, once it's out of the bands hand, the studio can commission whatever release mixes, promo mixes, radio edits, club mixes get done... but the actual details of the edits are not up to them..

videos can be very complicated, as in this case especially because the video included original footage, and sounds not in the original song, how are they supposed to use the same mix for that?

of course they're going to have to recut it for the video, also, sometimes their are remix videos, such as for world, and sometimes extended videos too.

if you have worked in the music industry, you would know these issues..

later -1

by the way, they get licensing fees for using their songs in movies, and soundtracks ..

so thats why its to their advantage to release new versions for soundtracks..

because they know it will tempt some people to buy them, just to get that version..

temptation in 'something wild' true faith in 'bright lights, big city' etc

later -1

musicoloog wrote: It just makes no sense.

it makes perfect sense from a marketing standpoint

later -1

indiearchivist wrote: I've found yet another unique version on a Canadian promo 12". It runs for about 6 minutes and is essentially the same as the 4:48 LP mix but doesn't fade out quite as early.

I wonder if there is a full length version somewhere with the "When you are alone..." verse intact?

Check your mailbox...

-1 wrote:

musicoloog wrote: It just makes no sense.

it makes perfect sense from a marketing standpoint

later -1

Well, that must be it then... as long as the moneytrain keeps rolling... right?

Ally wrote: a person who obsesses over 25 mixes of TPK

enthuasiast:

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—Synonyms 1. zealot, devotee, fan.

collector :

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later -1

It seems we're getting a free dictionary here

musicoloog wrote: It seems we're getting a free dictionary here

yes, it's very educational.....

well i got the promos today..

they're in excellent condition..

however, as listed in niagara:

7": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 123-7) [promo] 3:51 The Perfect Kiss (edit) 3:01 Kiss of Death (edit)

is WRONG..

the edits are just the normal edits, and not new..

7": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 123) + 4:48 The Perfect Kiss 5:09 The Kiss of Death **

maybe there's some more hiding out there, but i'm beginning to doubt it..

later -1

im looking for a remix of kiss of death which is not talked about. I greatly appreciate if someone could help out - find out what release this is ..

http://www.addvicemarketing.com/music/Radio\_1\_DJ\_Mix.mp3

Starting form min 18:00 to 20:00 you will hear the remix im talking about.

pocnho ryder wrote: im looking for a remix of kiss of death which is not talked about. I greatly appreciate if someone could help out - find out what release this is ..

http://www.addvicemarketing.com/music/Radio\_1\_DJ\_Mix.mp3

Starting form min 18:00 to 20:00 you will hear the remix im talking about.

What's the title of this mix? Cannot believe it's Radio 1 DJ Mix, is it?

I got the 7": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 123-7) [promo] 3:51 The Perfect Kiss (edit) 3:01 Kiss of Death (edit)

I have to admit that the labels are not indicating it is a promo, unless there was never a regular UK 7" release and only 'promos' have been released? But it seems there was (Factory FAC 123).

Anyway, good for you, the singles are in excellent condition.

-1 wrote: however, as listed in niagara:

7": UK 1985 (Factory FAC 123-7) [promo] 3:51 The Perfect Kiss (edit) 3:01 Kiss of Death (edit)

is WRONG..

the edits are just the normal edits, and not new..

By the way, I don't understand what you mean with [black]'normal edits and not new..'[/black]

i meant, the tracks on the 'promo' 7" are not new edits (even with the same times)..

they are just the regular 7" inch edits that we have already heard...

later -1

Ahhh I see, yep old ones to me, as this was one of my first New Order 7" I bought in the late 80's... It was harder to get hold of the Dutch 7FBN123 single as this one, even though I live in the lowlands!

But did you really expect to hear versions you've never heard before?

yes that is the name of the mix.... here is the full playlist, which i found online but as you can see the kiss of death is not specified which version...

fleetwood mac "tell me lies" the presets "truth and lies" daft punk "around the world" cut copy "future" the pixies "gouge away" a touch of class "the bullett" (silvercity-bob remix) billy idol "hot in the city" (dub) soulwax "e-talking" (tiga's disco drama remix) the faint "your retro career melted" (ursula 1000 remix) les rhythmes digitales "hey you" (12" remix) linus loves "stand back" (mylo pastel bronco remix) new order "kiss of death" explorer "yellow power" seelenluft "i can see clearly now" (tiga remix) chinkiki "tell me something more" the stills "still in love song: (12" extended mix) alan braxe & fred falke "chrystal" guided by voices "the flying party" roxy music "virginia plain" (pre-eno-split roxy ooh yeah. no EMS Synthi solo/breakdown bit here though) cut copy "going nowhere" franz ferdinand "matinee" (headman vocal remix) vitalic "dance like a machine" chromeo "me and my man" (whitey remix) hybrid funk "everybody" (headman remix) cut copy "saturdays"

really good! thanks!

pocnho ryder wrote: yes that is the name of the mix.... here is the full playlist, which i found online but as you can see the kiss of death is not specified which version...

So it's probably the original, but most likely mixed into other songs, therefor it might sound different.

pocnho ryder wrote: im looking for a remix of kiss of death which is not talked about. I greatly appreciate if someone could help out - find out what release this is ..

http://www.addvicemarketing.com/music/Radio\_1\_DJ\_Mix.mp3

Starting form min 18:00 to 20:00 you will hear the remix im talking about.

Cut Copy are remixers in their own right. I'm sure that's something they put together themselves for use in that DJ mix, which means you'll likely never get your hands on it. It's mixing in parts from the Linus Loves track right before it, and they're playing with the tuning/pitch on the vocal and bass. I don't think it's very good, either, and The Perfect Kiss is my all-time favorite song.

Blowoff (Bob Mould & Richard Morel) did a DJ set here in San Francisco two weeks ago. Richard has remixed tons of artists - including New Order - under the name Pink Noise. They played on a Saturday night and Richard threw a remix of Tears For Fears' Pale Shelter into the set that he'd literally put together the day before. The tools are easily available for anyone who has an ear for mixing to create their own versions of songs - just look at the proliferation of mash-ups.

Hell, even I've done my own mix of The Happy One. It's not hard.

£50 Note wrote: Hell, even I've done my own mix of The Happy One. It's not hard.

Hmmmm... any chance I can hear this one sooner or later?

indiearchivist wrote: I've found yet another unique version on a Canadian promo 12". It runs for about 6 minutes and is essentially the same as the 4:48 LP mix but doesn't fade out quite as early.

I wonder if there is a full length version somewhere with the "When you are alone..." verse intact?

Still waiting for this version...

-1 wrote:

ok,

so far the total mixes are:

the perfect kiss (12" extended) 8:46 v

it would be nice to get some of those on cd at some point in time..

later -1

i've waited 21 years to do this..

the perfect kiss (12" extended) 8:46 v, cd

AT LONG LAST..

finally...

THANK YOU WARNER/RHINO/NEW ORDER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

later -1

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-1 wrote:

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I've fixed it....

musicoloog wrote:

-1 wrote:

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I've fixed it....

thanks, i think some HTML code got in there, and wouldn't let me post correctly..

later -1

-1 wrote:

musicoloog wrote:

-1 wrote:

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I've fixed it....

thanks, i think some HTML code got in there, and wouldn't let me post correctly..

later -1

Yep... you can try it yourself... just add [*/quote] (without the *) at the end of your message...

for reference : the perfect kiss substance ------cut here-------------

mix technical data

[new order the perfect kiss substance v0.1] by -1

IMPORTANT note

all times are [APPROXIMATE], and may be different on your CD player, MP3 or realaudio file...adjust as needed

analysis

song - the perfect kiss (substance) time - 8m:02s

words : no note : words are NOT confirmed.... (c) : 2003

the perfect kiss (substance)

time notes vocals

• -08:02 [drum 1]
• -07:47 [drum 2]
• -07:33 [guitar 1]
• -07:15 [keyboard 1]
• -06:45 [keyboard 2]
• -06:31 [vocal] I stood there beside myself
• -06:26 [vocal] Thinking hard about the weather
• -06:22 [vocal] Then came by a friend of mine
• -06:18 [vocal] Suggested we go out together
• -06:15 [vocal] Then I knew it from the start
• -06:12 [vocal] This friend of mine would fall apart
• -06:08 [vocal] Pretending not to see his gun
• -06:04 [vocal] I said "let's go out and have some fun"
• -06:00 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
• -05:52 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
• -05:46 [guitar+keyboard]
• -05:30 [keyboard 1+guitar]
• -05:16 [vocal] I have always thought about
• -05:13 [vocal] Staying in and going out
• -05:09 [vocal] Tonight I should have stayed at home
• -05:05 [vocal] Playing with my pleasure zone
• -05:02 [vocal] He has always been so strange
• -04:57 [vocal] I'd often thought he was deranged
• -04:54 [vocal] Pretending not to see his gun
• -04:50 [vocal] I said "let's go out and have some fun"
• -04:47 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
• -04:39 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
• -04:32 [vocal] when you are alone at night
• -04:29 [vocal] you search yourself for
• -04:27 [vocal] all the things that you believe are right
• -04:25 [vocal] if you give it all away
• -04:22 [vocal] you throw away your only chance
• -04:19 [vocal] to be here today
• -04:17 [vocal] then a fight breaks out on your street
• -04:14 [vocal] you lose another broken heart in a land of me(at?)
• -04:10 [vocal] my friend has took his final breath
• -04:07 [vocal] now i know the perfect kiss
• -04:04 [vocal] is the kiss of death
• -04:02 [keyboard chords 2+cowbell+drum pad]
• -03:48 [spacey sound]
• -03:45 [keyboard 2+cowbell+drum pad]
• -03:17 [spacey sound+guitar]
• -03:14 [drums+claps+cowbell]
• -03:03 [spacey sound+keyboard notes+drums]
• -02:46 [keyboard+frogs croaking]
• -02:34 [drums+frogs croaking+notes]
• -02:19 [metallic beat]
• -02:06 [cowbell solo+beat]
• -02:02 [cowbell solo+orchestral keyboard chords]
• -01:49 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+cowbell]
• -01:35 [guitar2+chords+drums]
• -01:12 [guitar+chords+explosion]
• -00:57 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
• -00:43 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
• -00:28 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
• -00:14 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords]
• -00:06 [explosion]
• -00:01 [wowwww]
• -00:00 [silence]

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'the perfect kiss'

the perfect kiss 12"

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IMPORTANT note

all times are [APPROXIMATE], and may be different on your CD player, MP3 or realaudio file...adjust as needed

analysis

song - the perfect kiss (12") time - 8m:43s

words : no note : words are NOT confirmed.... (c) : 2003

the perfect kiss (12")

time notes vocals

• -08:43 [drum 1]
• -08:29 [drum 2]
• -08:16 [guitar 1]
• -07:57 [keyboard 1]
• -07:28 [keyboard 2]
• -07:13 [vocal] I stood there beside myself
• -07:09 [vocal] Thinking hard about the weather
• -07:05 [vocal] Then came by a friend of mine
• -07:02 [vocal] Suggested we go out together
• -06:58 [vocal] Then I knew it from the start
• -06:55 [vocal] This friend of mine would fall apart
• -06:51 [vocal] Pretending not to see his gun
• -06:48 [vocal] I said "let's go out and have some fun"
• -06:44 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
• -06:36 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
• -06:29 [guitar+keyboard]
• -06:14 [keyboard 2+guitar]
• -05:59 [vocal] I have always thought about
• -05:55 [vocal] Staying in and going out
• -05:52 [vocal] Tonight I should have stayed at home
• -05:48 [vocal] Playing with my pleasure zone
• -05:44 [vocal] He has always been so strange
• -05:41 [vocal] I'd often thought he was deranged
• -05:37 [vocal] Pretending not to see his gun
• -05:34 [vocal] I said "let's go out and have some fun"
• -05:30 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
• -05:22 [vocal] I know, you know, we believe in a land of love
• -05:15 [vocal] when you are alone at night
• -05:13 [vocal] you search yourself for
• -05:11 [vocal] all the things that you believe are right
• -05:08 [vocal] if you give it all away
• -05:05 [vocal] you throw away your only chance
• -05:03 [vocal] to be here today
• -05:00 [vocal] then a fight breaks out on your street
• -04:58 [vocal] you lose another broken heart in a land of me(at?)
• -04:53 [vocal] my friend has took his final breath
• -04:50 [vocal] now i know the perfect kiss
• -04:48 [vocal] is the kiss of death
• -04:45 [keyboard chords 2+cowbell+drum pad]
• -04:32 [spacey sound]
• -04:30 [keyboard 2+cowbell+drum pad]
• -04:02 [spacey sound+guitar]
• -03:57 [drums+claps+cowbell]
• -03:47 [spacey sound+keyboard notes+drums]
• -03:33 [keyboard+frogs croaking]
• -03:18 [drums+frogs croaking+notes]
• -03:03 [metallic beat]
• -02:52 [cowbell solo+beat]
• -02:45 [beat+keyboards]
• -02:32 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+cowbell]
• -02:17 [guitar2+chords+drums]
• -01:56 [guitar+chords]
• -01:42 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
• -01:33 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
• -01:13 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
• -00:28 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords]
• -00:14 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords]
• -00:06 [explosion]
• -00:01 [wowwww]
• -00:00 [silence]

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the kiss of death:

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IMPORTANT note

all times are [APPROXIMATE], and may be different on your CD player, MP3 or realaudio file...adjust as needed

analysis

song - the perfect kiss (substance) time - 7m:02s

words : no note : sections are NOT confirmed.... (c) : 2008

the perfect kiss (substance)

time notes vocals

• -07:02 [drums 1]
• -06:54 [keyboard+drums1]
• -06:53
• -06:51 [main keyboards+guitar]
• -06:37 [keyboards solo]
• -06:25 [echo of 'lets go out and have some fun']
• -06:22 [inst of keyboards+claps]
• -06:14 [guitar]
• -06:00 [echo of 'i know you know']
• -05:42 [hand claps+drum rolls]
• -05:27 [echo of 'i i i i i']
• -05:12 [echo of 'tonight']
• -05:07 [echo of 'pleasurezone']
• -05:01 [echo of 'of']
• -04:57 [echo of 'tender'?]
• -04:55 [echo of 'everywhere']
• -04:52 [echo of 'have some fun']
• -04:50 [vocal] i know
• -04:48 [vocal] you know
• -04:46 [vocal] we believe
• -04:45 [vocal] in a land of love
• -04:43 [vocal] i know
• -04:41 [vocal] you know
• -04:39 [vocal] we believe in a
• -04:37 [keyboards chords]
• -04:35 [single keyboard notes]
• -04:23 [drum rolls and cowbells]
• -04:20 [handclaps]
• -04:19 [cowbells]
• -03:59 [phasing left+right spacey sound]
• -03:57 [keyboard chords +drum pad]
• -03:44 [keyboard chords +drum pad+drums2]
• -03:29 [spacey sound+keyboard notes+drums]
• -03:13 [spacey sound+keyboard notes+piano+drums]
• -02:59 [keyboard+frogs croaking]
• -02:54 [drums+frogs croaking+notes]
• -02:30 [metallic beat]
• -02:14 [beat+orchestral keyboard chords]
• -02:00 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords+cowbell]
• -01:45 [guitar+chords2+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
• -01:18 [guitar+guitar2+orchestral keyboard chords+drums]
• -00:46 [guitar+orchestral keyboard chords]
• -00:27 [explosion]
• -00:23 [explosion]
• -00:16 [keyboard chords]
• -00:08 [spacey sound+explosion]
• -00:00 [silence]

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'kiss of death'

and finally a comparison of the waveforms..

samples of the tracks mixed together, and more..

coming soon..

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some notes:

the perfect kiss 12" the kiss of death the perfect kiss substance version

all have the same bpm 130.1

there are 2 possible areas of overlap that i found... the 'breakdown' in the middle, and the 'ending'..

here's an overview of the two songs mixed together

continued..

here's the overlap of the 'breakdown'

continued..

here's the overlap at the 'ending'

here's the mp3 to listen to:

new order - the perfect kiss of death (8min:50sec)

http://rapidshare.com/files/148634278/new_order_-_the_perfect_kiss_of_death.mp3.html

there are 2 overlaps to listen to ..

at : 4min14sec-6min:12sec and at : 7min03sec-8min:50sec

you will hear some parts that sound the same.. especially in the first part...those MIGHT be the similar, with different dynamics..

however, the second part is clearly different..

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this thread must be the last gasp of NOOL.....

Fcuking good work, I like those analyses!

cheers,

|cv|

Tarbox23 wrote: this thread must be the last gasp of NOOL.....

no, all the threads about interviews, and remasters are..

which is where this came from..

check out the 'low-life' remaster to see what we're talking about..

right mat?

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