Never Cry Another Tear - stop moaning, its brilliant

wrote: I wouldn't go as far as to say brilliant,but good.

Been on Heavy Rotation for a while now and i loves it,esp summer days on holiday,twist of fate and my personal fave,poisonous intent.

Nool wouldn't be nool without moaning about no so there

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I agree It wouldn't be right if we couldn't have a moan! I can't believe how much I like the new album, the first play was really tortured, It all sounded very flat. But since then i've been listening to it everyday. I think it takes getting over the initial negative reaction that it isn't New Order. I've found that i've warmed to the album much faster than I did with WFTSC. Jakes stuff still doesn't do anything for me, but the shared vocals and prominent backing vocals are really good. Runaway, Twist of Fate, Poisonous Intent and Running Out of Luck are the best song IMO

Chris Nash wrote: It seems from all the comments here, that it's the British members (yes, a generalisation, I know) and quite a few of the musicians here who don't seem quite so keen, and those overseas seem to be more receptive. Maybe we're more cynical/less accepting here.

It's good that the majority now seem to like it.

Or maybe their musical style appeals to people over here? I don't know....I've seen a couple blogposts in Japanese claiming it's 'OK'...and some that said they liked the music, but I've never seen a blogpost or a review so far in Japanese that outright says 'They're horrible!' or anything like that.

Its BLAND. Trouble is, for many years i've been incrementally lowering my expectations of New Order and respective side projects but it has gotten to the point where its just not possible to compromise any more.....I hope that the record sells well, but it is mush and it is sad to see where our friends who created such a pivotal, groundbreaking and revolutionary sound have ended up.

Give me Cheryl Cole's new album over it any day.

Burt Reynolds wrote:

runwild wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: It seems from all the comments here, that it's the British members (yes, a generalisation, I know) and quite a few of the musicians here who don't seem quite so keen, and those overseas seem to be more receptive. Maybe we're more cynical/less accepting here.

The reason is they have no distance to judge properly.

sorry.. you what?... DISTANCE?..

you could tell me it was made in New f____ Zealand, and I'd still think it's average. It's only got far more plays in my car than it should've cos I know who it is. I'm now hammering the Deadmau5 album to death. BL was soooo last week, arguably last millennium.

BL some distance memory? How soon is now?

BTW I'm curious what Johnny Marr thinks of this album. I think he loves it!

Could some of u here help me out?

I noticed there's a some editions of the BL album with bonus tracks. Wich version shoud i get to get hold of most of the bonus tracks? and where can i get it? Here in Holland they only have the regular one on sale...

I guess there's not an edition out with all of the bonus tracks on them? or is there?

Bit confusing

Thanks

Martijn wrote: Could some of u here help me out?

I noticed there's a some editions of the BL album with bonus tracks. Wich version shoud i get to get hold of most of the bonus tracks? and where can i get it? Here in Holland they only have the regular one on sale...

I guess there's not an edition out with all of the bonus tracks on them? or is there?

Bit confusing

Thanks

i THINK the LImited edition i got with TWO bonus tracks MAY be released PROPER in a few weeks AFter the AMAZON exclusive. Hasn't got the JAPAN Higher Wider Deeper or the download itunes only exclusive...i got this but nothing AMAZING.I can see why the didn't make the album. FALLING TREE SPLIT THE ATOM

HOW LONG-iTunes only

Higher Wider Deeper JAPAN 4th BONUS

BTW Amazon only charged less than £8 for this album plus 2 Bonus. With the download that was on iTunes cost £8 78p...cheap as chips....

Realy think its a beautiful c.d,, been playing since tuesday ,not a track i skip,, this was never going to be new order minus hooky the bass king, rather , Bernard + phil, jake steve alex etc,some of the songs have a real "live " in the studio production about them and lots going on , which is to Bernards credit producing in such a style,

cant wait for Brighton!!.

by the sea before sunset...............

Realy think its a beautiful c.d,, been playing since tuesday ,not a track i skip,, this was never going to be new order minus hooky the bass king, rather , Bernard + phil, jake steve alex etc,some of the songs have a real "live " in the studio production about them and lots going on , which is to Bernards credit producing in such a style,

cant wait for Brighton!!.

by the sea before sunset...............

MONTY wrote: Got it yesterday,I really like it,surprisingly because the other week I listened to samples of each song,and was non-plussed.SINK OR SWIM,TWIST OF FATE,POISONOUS INTENT and SUMMER DAYS are my faves,plus DYNAMO.It's got a bit of a WHO-like keyboard intro going on. Like Jake's vocals too,remind me a bit of Ian McCulloch in places.

I agree. Especially on Shine Like The Sun (radio4 forecast). I couldnt put my finger on it at the time but now youve mentioned it, he does sound like McCulloch.

The more I listen to this stuff the more I love it. I went from liking 2 songs, to 4 songs, to 6 songs, to almost all the songs now.

NCAT has definitely grown on me a lot quicker than WFTSC and GetReady.

There's only a couple of clunkers and it would be nice to have Barney do all the lead vocals, but overall its a cracker.

I love the album - I can see how some are dissapointed that it's fairly MOR, straightforward Rock, which it is. There's even a trace of country and folk. But there's never been a NO-related album that WAS simple, straightforward rock so it's a new flavor to me.

The only bad review I've seen so far is from Pitchfork. All other reviews seem to be 'it's pretty good, but nothing mindblowing'.

As for why the British posts on here seem to be so much more disappointed - cause the British HATE EVERYTHING!

Dunno if I'd say brilliant but I really like 50%, the other half I have no interest in. That's fine, 5 new Barney tunes are more than enough to make me happy.

On a side note, anybody else enjoying the new Ian Brown album? It's a bit preposterous/cocky and it shouldn't work but I LOVE it! I like every track on the album, not often I can say that. Been listening to it non-stop for days.

bug wrote: Dunno if I'd say brilliant but I really like 50%, the other half I have no interest in. That's fine, 5 new Barney tunes are more than enough to make me happy.

On a side note, anybody else enjoying the new Ian Brown album? It's a bit preposterous/cocky and it shouldn't work but I LOVE it! I like every track on the album, not often I can say that. Been listening to it non-stop for days.

The new Ian Brown Alb -my way is absolute SHITE!

Rubbish,is a good word for it,he aint done owt decent since golden greats.

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bug wrote: Dunno if I'd say brilliant but I really like 50%, the other half I have no interest in. That's fine, 5 new Barney tunes are more than enough to make me happy.

On a side note, anybody else enjoying the new Ian Brown album? It's a bit preposterous/cocky and it shouldn't work but I LOVE it! I like every track on the album, not often I can say that. Been listening to it non-stop for days.

The new Ian Brown Alb -my way is absolute SHITE!

Rubbish,is a good word for it,he aint done owt decent since golden greats.

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TrueTrue...it's pisspoor

The Ian Brown album i meant....

I love NCAT, very cool tunes. it has started to grow on me and have been playing it al day today. Actually listening to: Bad Lieutenant - Sink or Swim (Reeder's Rettungsring Soft Kick Remix)

non-official still in my ipod

I actually quite like the chorus to Walk On Silver Water.

Ryan wrote: The more I listen to this stuff the more I love it. I went from liking 2 songs, to 4 songs, to 6 songs, to almost all the songs now.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't understand all the people slagging them off & being so negative. This album is GREAT! I mean, it's not a masterpiece but it is plain GOOD! I thought it was going to be bitter (kind of like Republic) but it's not....not at all. It kind of reminds me of GET READY. I don't want to rank it as better or inferior to NEW ORDER, but it holds up well next to GET READY & WAITING FOR THE SIREN'S CALL. I even prefer it to Electronic. *wait,did I say that bit out loud?*

annmuin wrote: I even prefer it to Electronic. *wait,did I say that bit out loud?*

nope. You typed it.

Twist Of Fate doesn't do much for me. Bernard sums it best himself "What i'm doing is incredibly wrong", "People keep telling me i was better before"

Quite like the chorus to Summer Days.

This Is Home - yeah i do quite like this one.

Running Out Of Luck i like - quite an optimistic feel to this one

Dynamo - s'alright i spose .

Poisnous Intent - New Order intro which is a bad thing 'cause it just makes you want it to be New Order. But it isn't.

These Changes - Fairly optimistic feel again

Walk On Silver Water - really like the chorus to this one. Quite a driving tempo even though it's mid paced

Shine Like The Sun - chorus ain't too bad

Runaway - nice intro. Not a bad song to chill out to. I like the piano. And the build to the chorus and the chorus itself.

Head Into Tomorrow - Not a bad acoustic number though Jake can't decide if he wants to be Jimi Goodwin or Noel Gallagher

Let's hope FREEBASS is better then!:D

You know what surprised me most about this album? There isn't a whole lot of anger or bitterness. Aside from "Poisonous Intent," it's a pretty sunny upbeat record. He really sounds like he's looking forward and not back. He even sings,"forget that rainy day,the sun is gonna shine." Maybe the sheer sunniness & optimism is what's turning off some fans. I quite like it.

Also the single SOS is getting heavy airplay on NME radion, it was in the B playlist and now they moved it to A playlist.

Has anyone heard SOS on UK radio? apart from the live/acoustic studio sessions I havent caught it yet? though radio 2 might give it a shot.

Not heard it much!

RM wrote: Let's hope FREEBASS is better then!:D

Sorry to disappoint you, Nick. They don't have a good lead singer with an autocue on the front

I finally got paid and downloaded the album (14 tracks) from i-tunes last night. Id heard the tracks a couple of times when it was up on BL site for a few days to preview.

I really like it and I didnt miss Hookys bass. But I mean that in the same way that I dont miss it when listening to Electronic. Dont get me wrong, Hooky has played plenty of memorable bass lines over the years, which has defined NO. Im just saying that I love the sound BL have got, as they are.

It is a very catchy, jangly guitar laden album. Quite laid back, but also has some uptempo tracks. It would have been great to have listened to this over the summer. Its kinda got that Technique feel.

Stand outs so far for me are: Summer Days On Holiday Home How Long Runaway

I do like it, still not better than any NO album but I ilke it. Probably the best side project apart from the 1st electronic album, will definatley play it lots, its nice but not out there brilliant, but it may grown on me more only got it yesterday, the box thingy was delayed. the real test is if I still like it next year.

I've have only heard SOS and Dynamo. I'm waiting till I get the album to hear the rest.

NO Regret wrote:

Its kinda got that Technique feel.

I agree. Specially Running Out of Luck.