Movement vinyl?

Hello, I'm very new here (just joined to ask this question) but have been passively collecting New Order vinyl for a few years.

I've seen and passed up Movement on vinyl at least once, and I didn't buy it because it was the New Order album I was least familiar with. I now work at a record store in central MA and found it in the back, put it aside, and bought it today (loving it of course).

I thought that the album cover was blue-ish with blue stripes on the cover, but the one I found and bought is like an off-white and the stripes are this maroon color. There is no information on the spine of the cover sleeve, and the inner sleeve is a normal sleeve (could have been lost, but it looked plain to me already, and the record itself is in perfect condition, so a loss to me was unlikely) and the label is also the same dark red color as the stripes on the cover.

I looked the album up on allmusic.com and the stock album art is the normal, blue cover. I went further to musicstack and all of the listings were for a blue cover version.

What did I buy? I can also attempt photos, if requested.

Sorry if the answer is obvious ;)

I think the first batches released in the US were this colour.

Yup. Thank you.

I haven't seen that one before. I like that color scheme much better than the blue one... wonder shy they didn't stick with this?

1st gen CDs had this cover art too, not the blue.

The original Factory UK vinyl release FACT 50 was a blue cover. The first Factory UK CD was blue also.

The American Movement vinyl version cover was white and released as FACTUS by Rough Trade. Apparently there were also coloured vinyl discs in some, I think the colours were subtle. Don't remember if there is anything different printed on the cover thou. In the US the white cover should be more common. The Qwest CD in the USA may have been the white cover CD.

Surprised this cover never made it's way onto Niagara (scroll to bottom)

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/

Not sure about the Polish cover!

James Thomas wrote: Surprised this cover never made it's way onto Niagara (scroll to bottom)

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/

Not sure about the Polish cover!

[pedant] Under the first thumbnail is a Blue / Creme option [/pedant]

Old Blue wrote:

James Thomas wrote: Surprised this cover never made it's way onto Niagara (scroll to bottom)

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/

Not sure about the Polish cover!

[pedant] Under the first thumbnail is a Blue / Creme option [/pedant]

Oh go and look at some planets or something!

Cheers thanks for that, I have a masters in bloke looking.

0_o wrote: The original Factory UK vinyl release FACT 50 was a blue cover. The first Factory UK CD was blue also.

The American Movement vinyl version cover was white and released as FACTUS by Rough Trade. Apparently there was also coloured vinyl discs in some, I think the colours were subtle. Don't remember if there is anything different printed on the cover thou. In the US the white cover should be more common. The Qwest CD in the USA may have been the white cover CD.

The white cover is probably more common here in vinyl.

The blue cover is more common on CD ever since Qwest released it in 1991. Before that, Rough Trade was pressing CDs with the white cover, but that could only have been for maybe 2 or 3 years. Most of the CDs here are blue now, with the white ones being more rare, though probably not as rare as they are in the UK.

So there was only one vinyl pressing utilizing this color scheme?

Is the label the differing color as well?

The only reason I ask is that The Sugarcubes did a similar thing with Life's Too Good, where they released different colored covers (pink, yellow, green and orange), but the vinyl itself has the same label, and is all from the same pressing.

Rayek4eq wrote: So there was only one vinyl pressing utilizing this color scheme?

Is the label the differing color as well?

The only reason I ask is that The Sugarcubes did a similar thing with Life's Too Good, where they released different colored covers (pink, yellow, green and orange), but the vinyl itself has the same label, and is all from the same pressing.

Rough Trade licensed Power, Corruption & Lies along with Movement, Blue Monday, and the North American-only 1981-1982 EP and released them with FACTUS catalog numbers before New Order signed a deal with Qwest in 1985, so there's only a window of a few years that they were being manufactured. They also did the first run on those albums on CD before the licensing transferred to Qwest circa 1990.

The Sugarcubes doing multiple colors was a design decision, whereas Rough Trade changing the cover for Movement would have been financial (less ink colors/printing involved) because they were such a small operation.

Until recently the only CD copies of Movement that didn't have a small glitch on them were the original Factory and Rough Trade versions.

Maybe Saville approved the US whitish cover version. The FACTUS american album releases, while not the same as the UK Factory releases, were still not cheaply made and were nice covers.

I thought that the US Rough Trade went out of business before the CD era. I only ever saw the import Factory CDs before Qwest.

0_o wrote: I thought that the US Rough Trade went out of business before the CD era. I only ever saw the import Factory CDs before Qwest.

I have the Rough Trade Movement CD. I still see used copies at Amoeba in San Francisco from time to time.

Nice, I finally have something of a feather in my collection. =)

The Factory US/Rough Trade versions of "Movement" also come in several collectible variants...

For the CD, there were three different versions:

1. The first pressing incorrectly had "FACT 50" (the LP catalog number) on the cover. It also had a disc that looked different than subsequent pressings. The back inlay was clearly marked "Distributed in the USA by Rough Trade" and had the FACTUS 50 CD catalog number on the spine. This is probably the most unique and sought after version.

2. For the second pressing, the FACT on the cover was corrected and replaced with "FACD 50." Unfortunately the cover was screwed up with the lines and dots on the wrong side (sort of a mirror image). The disc and back inlay this time around more closely resemble the UK pressing, but with white text on the CD itself.

3. The third pressing FINALLY got the cover/front inlay right with "FACD 50" and the artwork correctly matching Saville's original design. The back inlay and disc are the same as the second pressing. Though later versions had black text on the disc. I guess you could technically view the versions with black text as a fourth pressing.

For the LP, the early versions had more of a cream colored cover (versus a bright white) with the vinyl on translucent amber/red vinyl. The inner sleeve had the Graphica Industria logo printed on it in maroon to match the original UK vinyl. If you find them sealed, the original copies were sold in a loose plastic wrap that had a perforated/rip-away opening.

There were likely then interim pressings with the original outer and inner sleeves, but on black vinyl.

The final pressings of the LP had a brighter white cover, were pressed on plain black vinyl, and don't have the custom Graphica Industria inner sleeve. If sealed, they were sold in standard shrinkwrap.

The original Rough Trade label and distribution went out of business in 1991. Qwest/Warners then issued "Movement" on CD in 1992 with the usual blue cover. There was no US vinyl version in print after Rough Trade's demise until the 2009 reissues on Rhino.

So, have fun collecting all these variants! ;-)

-Mike

Try not to spill your hamburger and chips on the cover my dear American friend.

shedhead wrote: Try not to spill your hamburger and chips on the cover my dear American friend.

That would be hamburger and "fries"! And no worries, that won't be happening since all my CDs and vinyl are all sealed up in poly bags.

Just be sure not to spill any tea on your record collection! ;-)

...taking beer off of CD coaster...

Old Blue wrote:

[pedant] Under the first thumbnail is a Blue / Creme option [/pedant]

Perhaps we can all chip in and get you a pedant pendant, Old Blue?

PS Don't look now but someone's half-inched your avatar pic.

:\pimp3:

I know - it's not even a homage, just wholesale theft.

A despicable act indeed.

Perhaps an old-fashioned duel is in order?

Old Blue versus young upstart in "the great f-off".

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