Who Sampled Who?

I came across this site which I thought was a good idea. Its a Who Sampled Who which also lists cover versions as well. They have examples showing you where the track was sampled. Check it out with Blue Monday below. Blue Monday

similar, not sampled....

New Order sampled Kraftwerk. Yes, they did.

Bad Lieutenant sampled Revenge

Doesn't have everything yet. Shows the Doves only sampling on Black and White town, they did a bit more than one song.

That's very old news, I don't think new order ever made a secret of the origin of that sample.

Blue Monday even consists of a drumbeat which was first used in the track Our Love by Donna Summer on her 1979 album Bad Girls. That's also well known all over the world.

Are these examples from Blue Monday samples or just imitations/homage using same/similar equipment?

Luke wrote: Blue Monday even consists of a drumbeat which was first used in the track Our Love by Donna Summer on her 1979 album Bad Girls. That's also well known all over the world.

Wasn't it influenced by Sylvester or whatever it's called?

Yes. According to Bernard Sumner (who,along with Steve, is most responsible for Blue Mondays arrangement), Blue Monday was inspired by You Make Me Feel Might Real by Sylvester and 'Dirty Talk" by Klein and MBO.

If you listen to the whole of Dirty Talk, you can really hear how it inspired Blue Monday.

From Wikipedia:

"According to Bernard Sumner, "Blue Monday" was influenced by four songs: the arrangement came from "Dirty Talk", by Klein + M.B.O.; the signature bassline with octaves came from Sylvester's disco classic, "You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)"; the house beat came from "Our Love", by Donna Summer; and the long keyboard pad on the intro was sampled from the Kraftwerk song "Uranium", from the Radio-Activity album."

WOW! I am amazed! Listening to this stuff,it's like finding the Rosetta stone!

Come to think of it,it's no wonder Rob Gretton used to tell them,"yer into Gay disco."

The Donna Summer song is pretty surprising, uses the industrial beat in the same way, and the end even becomes proto-acid.

You want gay disco? This guy was the first official queen diva. Maybe Bernard was trying to imitate Sylvester with those awful soulless State of the Nation backing vocals...

New Order even claim to have wanted to use a vocoder for the Blue Monday vocals

0_o wrote: New Order even claim to have wanted to use a vocoder for the Blue Monday vocals

Umm... they did. A good bit of the song has Barney's singing doubled with a vocoder track. You can hear it by itself on "The Beach."

Zachery Starkey wrote: Yes. According to Bernard Sumner (who,along with Steve, is most responsible for Blue Mondays arrangement), Blue Monday was inspired by You Make Me Feel Might Real by Sylvester and 'Dirty Talk" by Klein and MBO.

If you listen to the whole of Dirty Talk, you can really hear how it inspired Blue Monday.

Wow, if they chose a female lead singer, they may have sounded close to this -- minus that laughing. i hope

Zachery Starkey wrote: Yes. According to Bernard Sumner (who,along with Steve, is most responsible for Blue Mondays arrangement), Blue Monday was inspired by You Make Me Feel Might Real by Sylvester and 'Dirty Talk" by Klein and MBO.

If you listen to the whole of Dirty Talk, you can really hear how it inspired Blue Monday.

Now, I have the other three tracks, but not this one, and a quick skim of Discogs seems to indicate that the 8 minute mix in your clip is called the European Connection mix.

Do you know if there's an unmixed CD with this track?

Blimey, you can really hear the Donna Summer song in Everything's Gone Green, Tempation and BM. Those break bass drums on Our Love are identical to those programmed on the DMX later on BM.

It's interesting to note that BM is still a highly influential song and that it itself was inspired by interesting influences. It's cool that the Order filtered the Moroder/Summer, Klein/M.B.O, Cowley/Sylvester and Kraftwerk sounds whilst adding something of themselves to come up with a classic. Respect!