Hooky played "Pictures In My Mind" tonight.
Feel silly yet, crowd?
We're all too old to make shit up.
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So.... "Pictures In My Mind" at FAC251
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One unreleased New Order, one unreleased Joy Division (presumably aforementioned Pictures?), a couple of Freebass songs, Monaco, lots of Joy Division songs, Blue Monday and Dreams Never End amongst others...
And, no, I don't feel silly... :p
The bit you made up was the story about Steve giving someone the tape. The song is real. And not that bad.
Darkman wrote: To all you disbelievers, enough said. You can pull the dagger out of my back now!
So who now should we sacrifice, oh righteous one?
drewc wrote: Hooky played "Pictures In My Mind" tonight.
Feel silly yet, crowd?
not overly bothered. Never doubted it was real. Just a bit saddened if anything that a song that had been buried (presumably for reasons of quality) resurfaced tonight for shock value. These boards are read too much by Mr Hook, i suspect.
I wanna hear 'Don't do it'.
So, any actual interesting information about the song/performance? ... instead of bitching and sniping.
Didnt doubt the song existed,it was the 'Steve says dont let anyone hear it'pish and 'we're uber fans'nonsense.
Anyway Darkmong,now that you (and yer buddy) have re surfaced and feeling all dandy,remember this?
Wonder if Hooky will play "Patience of a saint", and if he does read these boards that'd make it even more ironic.
As the starter of "that" original Joy Division thread I think this is incredibly funny !
I feel like I have influenced Hooky's setlist - no less.
...Hooky does have a sense of humour (he must have been laughing his socks off reading those original threads).
I remember getting so much flack on here just for opening the subject up for discussion. At least now I feel a little bit vindicated - nice one Hooky !
A fooking cracking night had by all. I filmed about half the set.Got SISTER & BROTHER (WFTSC outtake) and ROWETTA singing ATMOSPHERE and INSIGHT. Alas I only got half of PICTURES before my memory card give up on me. I'll post it later folks!
I was lucky enough to be there, what a fucking gig, venue toosmall and too loud but great, strange mix of punters lots of confused teenagers who only woke up when hooky covered tthe killers shadowplaY ;) and lots of oldsters like me loving it.
atmosphere seemed to have been slowed down, sister and brother what new order era is that from??
Highlight apart from the new jd song was darkstar which was absolutely awesome if thats the sign of things to come then we have hope!!
lets hope somebody recorded it so it will apear soon........
Gazman wrote: NME review of Fac 251 opening night
ha ha ha, the footage at the bottom of that article was taken by someone stood right behind us, alex is right in the middle of the picture
have to say I thought Howard marks looked like David Dickinson first song had him reading from a cribb sheet, no autocues at this gig (though there was a music stand stage left) before someone else took over on vocals (Gary?)
weirdest moment was Rowetta singing atmosphere, after hearing it with Ian's voice for all these years to have female vocals took some getting used to
sister & brother was introduced as one of Hooky's favourite new order songs & he didn't know why they never played it had us stumped on what it was til he got to the chorus
the JD songs sounded the best, though Ceremony, Sunrise & DNE also stood out
Ceremony was blinding. Hooky did a cracking job throughout. Both of them, in fact. Paul gets the job done, and I'm not just saying that cos I fancy his mate.
Put her down, Colin 
gmex88 wrote: I was lucky enough to be there, what a fucking gig, venue toosmall and too loud but great, strange mix of punters lots of confused teenagers who only woke up when hooky covered tthe killers shadowplaY ;) and lots of oldsters like me loving it.
atmosphere seemed to have been slowed down, sister and brother what new order era is that from??
Yes some bemused looks from the bright young things.
Sister + Brother was recorded for Waiting for the Siren's Call. It's one of the six(?) tracks that were supposed to be on the next album.
I am so happy that Alex was around, more chance to download a decent sound quality file from this gig. The video quality below is so crap!
hibster wrote:
Gazman wrote: NME review of Fac 251 opening night
ha ha ha, the footage at the bottom of that article was taken by someone stood right behind us, alex is right in the middle of the picture
He's showing his age, you can see loads of white hair coming out of his ears!
Twas a good night indeedy,nice to meet a few more vikings esp Norbert and Col (thanks for the badges matey) 
Set list as follows:
'Dark Starr' freebass feat howard marks 'You Don't Know...' freebass 'Dreams Never End' 'Ceremony' 'Sister + Brother' sirens sessions track 'Shine' 'What Do You Want From Me' 'Atmosphere' Feat Rowetta on vocals 'Insight' 'Shadowplay' 'Pictures' 'Interzone' 'Warsaw' 'Transmission' 'Sunrise' 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' 'Blue Monday'
Full review will appear later once iv'e transcribed the audio and passed it on.
gmex88 wrote: atmosphere seemed to have been slowed down
It's not the first time it was played like that
So.....when are all of the people who bitched to no end about Bad Lieutenant doing 2 New Order songs and 2 JD songs as well as 8 BL songs at their shows going to bitch about Hooky playing 13 NO/JD songs?
That aside, it was interesting to hear Hooky sing BM. I have always thought Hooky had a cool singing voice (I really like his vocals on that 1st Revenge album). Set list was fun as well.
What does Sister and Brother sound like?
James Thomas wrote:
hibster wrote:
Gazman wrote: NME review of Fac 251 opening night
ha ha ha, the footage at the bottom of that article was taken by someone stood right behind us, alex is right in the middle of the picture
He's showing his age, you can see loads of white hair coming out of his ears!
fat baldy geezer wif earplugs lol,
Zachery Starkey wrote: So.....when are all of the people who bitched to no end about Bad Lieutenant doing 2 New Order songs and 2 JD songs as well as 8 BL songs at their shows going to bitch about Hooky playing 13 NO/JD songs?
That aside, it was interesting to hear Hooky sing BM. I have always thought Hooky had a cool singing voice (I really like his vocals on that 1st Revenge album). Set list was fun as well.
What does Sister and Brother sound like?
Remember Barney has to be the bad guy! Curse him for performing songs! But in all seriousness, I still would rather see BL do LWTUA, I just think it sounds better.
Zachery Starkey wrote:
What does Sister and Brother sound like?
I've got a video recording of it here. I can't get it on youtube though - not sure why. 500mb .mov file. Plays alright here. Just says error. Can't put it on divshare either as it's too big.
Booger.
Zachery Starkey wrote: So.....when are all of the people who bitched to no end about Bad Lieutenant doing 2 New Order songs and 2 JD songs as well as 8 BL songs at their shows going to bitch about Hooky playing 13 NO/JD songs?
I'd follow my postman around if he was whistling Blue Monday. It's good to see anyone singing New Order songs, I like them.
What was nice about Friday night was that Hooky's band were playing them a bit more live than NO/BL, who use a massive backing track.
Either is fine with me, but I did enjoy it this way.
LWTUA is better without all the 'come on' interludes.
Pablo Bastardo wrote:
Zachery Starkey wrote:
What does Sister and Brother sound like?
I've got a video recording of it here. I can't get it on youtube though - not sure why. 500mb .mov file. Plays alright here. Just says error. Can't put it on divshare either as it's too big.
Booger.
500 MB 
Set list as follows:
'Dark Starr' 'You Don't Know...' 'Dreams Never End' 'Ceremony' 'Sister + Brother' 'Shine' 'What Do You Want From Me' 'Atmosphere' 'Insight' 'Shadowplay' 'Pictures' 'Interzone' 'Warsaw' 'Transmission' 'Sunrise' 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' 'Blue Monday'
Full review will appear later once iv'e transcribed the audio and passed it on.
ohh myy goood and i wasn't there! please upload all videos! i can't wait to see it! :D
and it would be really cool if there was an offical bootleg or recording ...
Pablo Bastardo wrote: It's out there - somewhere...
...so it is Pablo!
Anyway I won't say where it is available - for fear of getting flamed (as when I started 'that' Joy Division thread). In any case judging by the comments of the people on here last time - I doubt anybody is interested in hearing the original JD version anyway!
It's not a secret, is it?
http://norecordshopsleft.blogspot.com/2010/02/joy-division-warsaw-pictures-on-my-mind.html
Darkman's gone on there ranting - so I suppose it's OK to reveal it's existence to the world, but.....
I thought Darkman said it was really different. Sounds like Warsaw naive punkish Stooge-ish. Kind of half baked, unfocused, probably why Hooky said it needed to be finished.
I never doubted it's existance, just don't think darkloser has a copy!
I see he's made a threatening comment on the above mentioned blog
Good on you man, who you fighting for again?
Ralexand wrote: ohh myy goood and i wasn't there!
Me either. I sat in the pub on the other side of the street and drunk a few pints. What's your problem?
0_o wrote: I thought Darkman said it was really different. Sounds like Warsaw naive punkish Stooge-ish. Kind of half baked, unfocused, probably why Hooky said it needed to be finished.
The word I believe you are looking for is 'shit'. Perhaps there's a reason why these tracks haven't appeared in public until the pension fund needed topping up? forwards to the past...
Thanks again to Old Blue for another great link. The comments are great! 'Darktwat'! Priceless...
what does darkman mean when he says:
Darktwat wrote: I have let the band know of this download, and I hope they come at you with Layers;
layers??? what the fuck...are they pastry chefs now???
I think we can all agree that the version played at FAC251 is much better than this recording 
It's a shame that things like this get out on the net in this way but that is nature of music these days, nothing can be kept away from the internet now. 
What is the real story about how this song was made public? Someone had to have it first or find it, then pass along to someone else. Can this lineage be traced?
Presumably the chorus was,at that time,what 1980,influenced by the MARTINI adverts??
"It's the right place,it's right time,THAT's MARTINI!" :beer2:"
Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: What is the real story about how this song was made public? Someone had to have it first or find it, then pass along to someone else. Can this lineage be traced?
well it all started one rainy night in Stockport...
In fact, this track has been in fairly wide circulation for some time, among people with too much class to show off about it. Whoever runs this blog is probably just revealing it now because Hooky played it. This was always going to happen, just a question of when.
Plenty of people standing around me at the gig recognised it straight away.
The quality of the song and the performance give it very limited commercial appeal. If 'the band', whatever that means now, had chosen to market this track, the cries of exploitation would have drowned out any gratitude. It wouldn't have got much radio play.
Hopefully 'the band' will box clever and do something with the Siren's out-takes before they fall into the wrong hands and go public.
Pablo Bastardo wrote:
Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: What is the real story about how this song was made public? Someone had to have it first or find it, then pass along to someone else. Can this lineage be traced?
well it all started one rainy night in Stockport...
Col,is this the story that involves the following
pubs
A drunken drummer taking people home
war tanks full of cd's
and secrets?
Ive heard it before if it is
