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I bought Twisted Tenderness not so long ago and find it a really good album, up there with Get Ready in terms of quality I think .
It doesn't really seem to get mentioned much on here? What are peoples thoughts on the album? I think there are some really strong tracks on there, which got me thinking what New Order/related stuff do you like which you feel doesn't get the credit it deserves?
I thought that Twisted Tenderness was by far the best Electronic album.
Most ignored tracks by New Order? Some are simply because they're quite old, some slightly more obscure but my favourite lesser-mentioned tracks are:
Murder Peter Saville Show Soundtrack Hurt Cries & Whispers Mesh Let's Go (vocal & instrumental versions)
Chris Nash wrote: I thought that Twisted Tenderness was by far the best Electronic album.
Most ignored tracks by New Order? Some are simply because they're quite old, some slightly more obscure but my favourite lesser-mentioned tracks are:
Murder Peter Saville Show Soundtrack Hurt Cries & Whispers Mesh Let's Go (vocal & instrumental versions)
Ahh, Murder is brilliant. 
Never thought much of Twisted Tenderness. I listen to it, think its pretty good, but I never find myself ever thinking about any of the songs on the album... its a once a year type of album.
For me it's stuff like All day long, times change, everyone everywhere, special, Lets go, paradise and ruined in a day.
michael preda wrote: For me it's stuff like All day long, times change, everyone everywhere, special, Lets go, paradise and ruined in a day.
Everyone Everywhere goes without saying really ;) Going back to Electronic what about "Lean To The Inside" ?
Lucky Bag and Free Will - two Electronic b-sides instrumentals. Best & Marsh is great, too. I like the early dance music vibe, but at the same time they're rich and unique compositions that transcend the genre. Man that sounds pretentious.
michael preda wrote: For me it's stuff like All day long, times change, everyone everywhere, special, Lets go, paradise and ruined in a day.
The whole Brotherhood album.
On Lowlife the production is mediocre, while Technique lacks punch.
'Turn','Turn my Way', and 'Dreams Never End'.
I dislike Jizzstream immensely but heard the Richard X remix recently for the first time and was pleasantly surprised.
leather_girl wrote: Lucky Bag- Electronic (I think it was a B-side to GAWI)
Without trawling the record collection I think it was the b-side to 'Get the Message' not 'Getting Away With It'.
noorder wrote:
leather_girl wrote: Lucky Bag- Electronic (I think it was a B-side to GAWI)
Without trawling the record collection I think it was the b-side to 'Get the Message' not 'Getting Away With It'.
GAWI indeed.
noorder wrote:
leather_girl wrote: Lucky Bag- Electronic (I think it was a B-side to GAWI)
Without trawling the record collection I think it was the b-side to 'Get the Message' not 'Getting Away With It'.
I checked feeleverybeat.co.uk just to make sure, sometimes I can't keep track of all my favourite songs...
http://www.feeleverybeat.co.uk/singles/gettingawaywithit.htm
It seems that it was GAWI.
discoin85 wrote: The whole Brotherhood album.
On Lowlife the production is mediocre, while Technique lacks punch.
All The Way doesn't have punch?!? 
Twisted Tenderness is great and certainly was underrated at the time especially by Parlophone who inexplicably cancelled the second single Late At Night after it had already been manufactured. After the mixed bag and slightly over-wrought production of Raise The Pressure Barney & Johnny came back with a fast-paced contemporary guitar album interspersed with beats (Make It Happen) and lush synthpop (title track). Even the tracks they kept back for bsides (Warning Sign) had a high watermark of quality. More importantly TT's sound had balls something which was slightly lacking in the recent Bad Loot stuff in my opinion.
If you listen carefully to the beginning of Vivid's bside Radiation there is a sampled voice saying "We're like crystal, we break easy" so if New Order hadn't reformed the year before it's possible that could have been an eventual Electronic track. It wouldn't have had half the bass riffing Hooky expertly added to it natch but it just goes to show that Get Ready did owe a debt of sound and even song-writing to Twisted Tenderness. Brutal certainly did, it's TT by numbers.
I prefer TT overall as an album but conversely Get Ready has more individually strong tracks that are well above the Electronic counterparts. Crystal is untouchable and something like Primitive Notion is leagues ahead. I think that's a fair appraisal.
As for a random couple of other underrated NO-related tracks: Big Bang and State Of Shock by Revenge are absolutely brilliant. Ultra by Monaco, that's another hidden gem.
Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Twisted Tenderness is great and certainly was underrated at the time especially by Parlophone who inexplicably cancelled the second single Late At Night after it had already been manufactured. After the mixed bag and slightly over-wrought production of Raise The Pressure Barney & Johnny came back with a fast-paced contemporary guitar album interspersed with beats (Make It Happen) and lush synthpop (title track). Even the tracks they kept back for bsides (Warning Sign) had a high watermark of quality. More importantly TT's sound had balls something which was slightly lacking in the recent Bad Loot stuff in my opinion.
If you listen carefully to the beginning of Vivid's bside Radiation there is a sampled voice saying "We're like crystal, we break easy" so if New Order hadn't reformed the year before it's possible that could have been an eventual Electronic track. It wouldn't have had half the bass riffing Hooky expertly added to it natch but it just goes to show that Get Ready did owe a debt of sound and even song-writing to Twisted Tenderness. Brutal certainly did, it's TT by numbers.
I prefer TT overall as an album but conversely Get Ready has more individually strong tracks that are well above the Electronic counterparts. Crystal is untouchable and something like Primitive Notion is leagues ahead. I think that's a fair appraisal.
As for a random couple of other underrated NO-related tracks: Big Bang and State Of Shock by Revenge are absolutely brilliant. Ultra by Monaco, that's another hidden gem.
Which brings me to another under-rated, or at-least under-mentioned track, Close Range. It's flawless!
"There on the floor, 30 years or more, he doesn't care, he just wants to score" 
Avalanche I think is vastly underrated, and easily one of the pinnacles of their musical genius.
Twisted Tenderness to my ears sounded like Electronic trying desperately to be as overpowering as Led Zeppelin.
And I fucking detest Led Zeppelin.
The same tracks Chris Nash listed plus Avalanche and the almighty 'Elegia'. That is a really beautiful piece of music. I particularly like the 17 minute version which I frequently listen to. it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up - its that fucking brilliant!
Superhighways. In particular, the title track which was pure pop perfection and Gillians best vocal performance (so far, hopefully). I think this album is easily better than TO2&Y.
Tender off Music For Pleasure was a brilliant Not-single, it was almost as good as What Do You Want From Me?
Twisted Tenderness is far better thab RTP but gets a bit boring/repetitive halfway through. Under-rated moments for me are the Technique/Electronic B-sides - Don't do it, Second to None...
I think Twisted Tenderness is a great album. I'm really a fan of all the Electronic albums and while it took a while for Twisted Tenderness to grow on me it certainly has. Now that I like it I seem to appreciate it more and more with every listen. Cool album.
