Just listening to it, I wonder why it wasn't a single? It's a far stronger track than Vivid and sounds great on a summer evening.
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I like it too, but after a few listens you realise that it isn't complete enough to be a single. ParadoxicalIy it was a single but got withdrawn. I have the CD 1&2 digipak package. I like the b-side; Warning Sign.
, Vivid is alot better/stronger tune It was technically a single although withdrawn at the last moment. Most formats I.e. Promo CD, CD1, CD2, 12" are available on Ebay if you're willing to search and dip your hand in your pocket cash-wise. There's even a 5 track European EP which compiles everything in one handy place. Not quite as rare as the Until The End Of Time CD single but still a good find if you can locate it.
Late At Night from a commercial and/or band point of view is clearly not as strong as Vivid. The latter sounded so fresh and a clear breakaway from the Raise The Pressure period in one fell swoop. Late At Night is a catchy track with a funky bassline but sounds a bit "alt rock derivative". The crisp sounding Stephen Power single mix emphasised Astrid Williamson's backing vocals but at the time I remember it just seemed to be a bit of a generic rock song.
The harmonica riff on Vivid is unmistakable and sticks in your head as all good lead off singles should. Marr's wah wah guitar on Late At Night is sublime but doesn't really have the same "gimmick" Vivid has.
Make It Happen was pencilled to be the debut single from Twisted Tenderness and should have remained so (with the Ice-T "This is not a pop album" sample intact) but Parlophone probably chickened out or couldn't be arsed paying for the sample. In many ways, MIH was the one of the best and most risky things Electronic ever did remaining true to their white label 12" origins; it's sounds ballsy even today.
Personally, I couldn't stop playing Prodigal Son when the album came out. The track made it onto promo 10" but I was a bit disappointed they didn't single remix it into the powerhouse it should've been. Such an epic track.
captain obvious wrote: My favourite non-single TT song was always When She's Gone
IMO that's the limpest track on there, esp after Prodigal Son. Make It Happen's my favourite - reminds me of how they always said they wanted to do dance 12"s - I read they onsidered it as the first single but it didn't lend itself to editing. Overall TT is decent album but it loses umph two-thirds of the way through - Late at Night and Like no Other sound like the same demo, When She's Gone is hardly earth-shattering, Flicker is almost dirge-like.
I managed to edit MIH down to 4:22, I don't think it's too bad actually,
You should chuck the Ice-T sample back in - that would be rather "dope' as I beleive they used to say in the old skool
Vivid and Late at Night we're ok. (I liked Vivid more than Late At Night, but the b-side of it (Warning Sign) was sublime. But I always thought that Twisted Tenderness should be a single back then. There was even a pole on a n.o.-site (can't remember which it was) for that one.
Gosh, how I liked Twisted back then!
Ok, so I have learned that Late At Night actually did get as far to being released, which begs the question.... is there a promo video lurking around somewhere?
Also was there ever an official video made for "Second Nature" ? [a top 40 single in 1997 I'd imagine it would?]
Late At Night did have a video. It's been a while since I've seen it but the storyline follows a bunch of drunken louts roaming around a city centre creating carnage. Bernard and Johnny hover in the background looking on and miming their bits of the song. Towards the end of the video they end up in a strip club and by the very end the tables have turned and the strippers are flushing the louts heads down the toilet.
There were two versions created I believe; one the director's cut and the other slightly censored editing out the controversial bits for TV (The strippers I think).
Bit bizarre to describe but you have to see it really.
There was no promotional video made for Second Nature.
perfection throughout tt, we're in the city late at night could still go iconic. every electronic song has that certain something that lasts
I didn't rate the album and have never listened to it all the way through. Make It Happen and Twisted Tenderness are far and away the best tracks on it in my opinion.
Ger Boy wrote: Just found a good full version of the video.
at 50 secs into the video
I can't see it because it's blocked to my country...
Satisfyingly chunky production but I agree that it's a bit too generic rock...and as far as that sound goes, "Like No Other" is simply a better song in my opinion: much more interesting chorus, and a really sweet bridge that also varies second time round. Lyrics to both are a bit meh.
That said, the title track is easily my favourite off the album. And "Vivid" is easily 2nd.
Tony Casanova wrote: Satisfyingly chunky production but I agree that it's a bit too generic rock...and as far as that sound goes, "Like No Other" is simply a better song in my opinion: much more interesting chorus, and a really sweet bridge that also varies second time round. Lyrics to both are a bit meh.
That said, the title track is easily my favourite off the album. And "Vivid" is easily 2nd.
She doesn't like the taste but then it's better than his face
One of the best Sumner lyrics ever. 
everyoneverywhere wrote:
Tony Casanova wrote: Satisfyingly chunky production but I agree that it's a bit too generic rock...and as far as that sound goes, "Like No Other" is simply a better song in my opinion: much more interesting chorus, and a really sweet bridge that also varies second time round. Lyrics to both are a bit meh.
That said, the title track is easily my favourite off the album. And "Vivid" is easily 2nd.
She doesn't like the taste but then it's better than his face
One of the best Sumner lyrics ever.
Great line but unfortunately negated by "this connection will not mend, how I prey that you'll be happy, but you're in a downward trend, leave this place and make it snappy" Corney as fuck!
He really is incredibly inconsistant, Vivids line "Have you a reason to behave like this, maybe you need a psychoanalyst" is fantastic.
Jed Stephens wrote:
everyoneverywhere wrote:
Tony Casanova wrote: Satisfyingly chunky production but I agree that it's a bit too generic rock...and as far as that sound goes, "Like No Other" is simply a better song in my opinion: much more interesting chorus, and a really sweet bridge that also varies second time round. Lyrics to both are a bit meh.
That said, the title track is easily my favourite off the album. And "Vivid" is easily 2nd.
She doesn't like the taste but then it's better than his face
One of the best Sumner lyrics ever.
Great line but unfortunately negated by "this connection will not mend, how I prey that you'll be happy, but you're in a downward trend, leave this place and make it snappy" Corney as fuck!
He really is incredibly inconsistant, Vivids line "Have you a reason to behave like this, maybe you need a psychoanalyst" is fantastic.
Credit for Vivid goes primarily to Johnny Marr.
Andy wrote:
Credit for Vivid goes primarily to Johnny Marr.
Did Johnny Marr write the lyrics? I never knew that.
Ger Boy wrote: Just found a good full version of the video.
I can't watch that video as it contains complete arseholes, people like that are the reason I don't go to pubs and clubs anymore, twats!
