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A silent post for the victims of the terrorist attack on Manhattan

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after watching the news over the past 24 hours has made me :\puke: several times now

my heartfelt sympathies go out to all involved in this sick barbaric act of inhumane terrorism

i sincerely hope that the repercussions of this do not result in too much :violent: and that a 3rd world war does not break out :nonono: :nono:

all this puts into perspective our love of new order

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The cowardly fools who did this think that they have somehow defeated America. They are sadly mistaken. The pathetic morons dancing in the streets, rejoicing over the murderous acts, will not dance for long. As an American I feel like I've lost a family member, as a U.S. Marine, I just feel the need to kill. They've made a horribly foolish mistake. They are seriously doomed.

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I feel moved to write this cos the things I've seen over the last 24 hrs are the most abhorrent and upsetting things I've ever seen and, I hope I'll never see such an example of mans inhumanity to man ever again. (Though I feel sure that sadly I will) My thoughts go out to the victims families at this most awful time for them. My only worry is that the American military will feel so much anger and hatred that they will lash out at other innocent peoples in the hope that they will stamp out this kind of terrorism. Mr Bush's speech in the early hours of this morning worried me deeply. If we, (As allies) and America seek vengence on a given country, (Such as Afganistan) for terrorism, then we also become terrorists. We should only strike and strike decisively when we as Allies know exactly who did this most evil deed. They should be bought to justice and made to pay for there crimes. My concern is that whilst passions are running high, we could trigger off some kind of holy war as tensions are already at breaking point in many parts of the Middle East. In many ways America and Europe's foreign policys are to blame for the tensions that caused this attack and it should be said that these misguided fundamentalists believed they were doing this to stop "The Great Satan" (America) from riding roughshod over there peoples interests. We, as the developed world should rise above the immediate need for vengance and lead the world away from potential disaster as no one nation can defend itself internally in a multi cultural society effectivly from terrorism.

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I agree with Anthony. I don't think this was done by any country, meaning the government from a country. This must have been done by some hate group in the country. If we attack a country for this terrorist attack we will be killing innocent people just like they did. The only thing that we can do is find the people that did this and prosecute them individually.

God Bless America and we will overcome this hate!

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Three mins silence this side of the pond, impeccably observed by all.

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First of all, Fuck Osama. I live in Pittsburgh and Shanksville is not too far at all away.Fuck him, his mother, his kids, every one of those fucking assholes who ruined my life many times over. A good friend of mine saw people melting in front of him last year on this day. So fuck him. Also, the UK harbours a lot of muslim m/fs also. I loved the rally they held lst week or so in London. Fuck them too. I am wearing all black today in memorium of the over 3000 killed. Fuck you terrorists. Hey web master go ahead and delete what I have to say, yo are contributing to the terrorism if you do. I am sure many of us yanks feel the same way. again FUCK EM

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love & best wishes to everyone...

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(everyone should have the right to be able to sleep safely in their beds, no matter where they are, or who they are)

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Ed V. -

I know how you feel.

Peace.

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Originally posted by ed verrilla First of all, Fuck Osama. I live in Pittsburgh and Shanksville is not too far at all away.Fuck him, his mother, his kids, every one of those fucking assholes who ruined my life many times over. A good friend of mine saw people melting in front of him last year on this day. So fuck him. Also, the UK harbours a lot of muslim m/fs also.I loved the rally they held lst week or so in London.Fuck them too. I am wearing all black today in memorium of the over 3000 killed. Fuck you terrorists. Hey web master go ahead and delete what I have to say, yo are contributing to the terrorism if you do. I am sure many of us yanks feel the same way. again FUCK EM

Ed...calm down buddy...you ever hear of karma??? It works BOTH ways...remember, not all Muslims are evil, I work with several, and they were just as outraged by these events...just remember, Christians have plenty of black marks in their past as well...read up on the Inquisition if you have your doubts!

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To Bonnie, serving in the army in Germany: :love2:

And to all those who died :cry:

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hey jeff white, why dont you go ask my friend who saw people falling to their daeth and melting in front of him that question. why dont you come here to pittsburgh and i will take you out to shanksville and you can see first hand what the terrorists did. secondly, as they would say in england, why dont you go and have a toss? sure i dig peace, but you dont really know, now do you about all this then? ever seen any one die in front of you? get a grip on your reality man

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We will never forget what happened on that day.... :cry:

It's time to rebuild. :thumb:

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Originally posted by ed verrilla First of all, Fuck Osama. I live in Pittsburgh and Shanksville is not too far at all away.Fuck him, his mother, his kids, every one of those fucking assholes who ruined my life many times over. A good friend of mine saw people melting in front of him last year on this day. So fuck him. Also, the UK harbours a lot of muslim m/fs also.I loved the rally they held lst week or so in London.Fuck them too. I am wearing all black today in memorium of the over 3000 killed. Fuck you terrorists. Hey web master go ahead and delete what I have to say, yo are contributing to the terrorism if you do. I am sure many of us yanks feel the same way. again FUCK EM

Mug.

Did you eat McDonald's and Hot Dogs all day too, Ed, as a show of patriotism?

Yes, we've got Muslims in London, but then - let's face it - we are slightly further up the food chain than the hicks of Pittsburgh, now aren't we? Now, crawl back under your stone.

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I heard they had Muslims in America as well and America taught them to fly. Perhaps America should bomb itself.

I apologise to anyone who finds this offensive. Apart from those who think bombing places is a good idea.

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Originally posted by Budvar Huber What part of "Silent Post" YOU ALL did not understand?

Et tu, Budvar.

And considering this thread is over a year old, it's a bit late to comment now, surely?

Anyways, I find Ed's notes just slightly incendiary, so fuct if I'm gonna let them pass without comment.

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Originally posted by ed verrilla hey jeff white,why dont you go ask my friend who saw people falling to their daeth and melting in front of him that question. why dont you come here to pittsburgh and i will take you out to shanksville and you can see first hand what the terrorists did. secondly, as they would say in england, why dont you go and have a toss? sure i dig peace, but you dont really know, now do you about all this then?ever seen any one die in front of you?get a grip on your reality man

hey Ed...pull your head out of your ass so you will have a place to put your thumb...

have I seen anyone die? yes, I have. I worked in the ER at Parkland Hospital one summer. Saw enough death and sick shit that in convinced me I didn't want to be a doctor.

Besides, your post only mentioned your friend seeing people die? Which ones did you see? Did Osama bring a hostage to your front door and knife him?

I also take issue with you lumping all muslims into the same group with Osama. Obviously, you aren't intelligent enough to realize that the vast majority of muslims are good people, horrified by the events of September 11, and wondering how someone could do this.

So continue spewing your vile hatred of an entire religion. Actually, sounds like you and Osama have a few things in common...

Osama hates Americans because he feels they are evil.

Ed hates all muslims because he feels they are evil.

Ed, did you happen to catch the spot on the BBC news about the man supporting Osama outside of a London prayer meeting?

He was trying to distribute pro- Bin Laden literature to these muslims as they left their prayer meeting. These guys told him he wasn't welcome and that they wanted nothing to do with him, or his cause. But you wouldn't be interested in that, now would you?

So full of hatred and rage, sad. Very sad.

What a twat!

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Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©
I heard they had Muslims in America as well and America taught them to fly. Let's bomb America.

Just make sure you start with Pittsburgh!

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Budvar Huber> What part of "Silent Post" YOU ALL did not understand?

Et tu, Budvar.

And considering this thread is over a year old, it's a bit late to comment now, surely?

Anyways, I find Ed's notes just slightly incendiary, so fuct if I'm gonna let them pass without comment.

and, obviously, I'm with Jarvo on this one!

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This is getting a bit out of hand, don't you think? This is the equivalent of starting a heated discussion during the silence at the 11th of November

I suggest we all delete our posts, including Ed and Hank.

Paz, piedad, perdon.(peace, mercy, forgiveness)

(Manuel Azaña, President of the Spanish II Republica near the end of the Spanish Civil War)

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Originally posted by Budvar Huber You are right Al but I was referring to this years' posts. I do not like Ed's comments either but they should have been answered somewhere else. On the other hand I can relate to Ed's frame of mind in a day such as yesterday.

Actually, I think you meant Wednesday, Budvar. But I digress.

So, you too think it's a disgrace that the UK 'harbours' Muslims? Which is what originally offended me most - as well as the overall tone - of Ed's original post.

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Budvar Huber> You are right Al but I was referring to this years' posts. I do not like Ed's comments either but they should have been answered somewhere else. On the other hand I can relate to Ed's frame of mind in a day such as yesterday.

Actually, I think you meant Wednesday, Budvar. But I digress.

So, you too think it's a disgrace that the UK 'harbours' Muslims? Which is what originally offended me most - as well as the overall tone - of Ed's original post.

Not in a million years Al, what I was trying to say (obviously without success) is that in a day such as Thursday (I thought Ed would not have been here on Wednesday, I was not) Ed might be forgiven for letting rage take the best of him and posting nonsense. I specifically say "I do not like Ed's comments either "

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can someone please tell me what any of the above has to do with New Order?

Please keep religion and politics out of this website

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:smoking:

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Well, as I see it, Ed is racist, and is tarring everyone with the same brush based on one isolated event carried out by people generally considered to not be representative of their faith. His racism is shown in his attitude towards Muslims, as well as his lambasting of the United Kingdom. Don't know if he's noticed, but certainly the western world is multicultural these days.

I didn't want to post in this 'blank' tributes thread, but it is no longer the anniversary as I write. Don't patronize us in the UK about not understanding: we've had to live with years of terrorism from the IRA. And guess what, you know how we started to lay those years of bigotry and intolerance to rest? By giving up Thatcher's stance of 'not giving in', and trying to understand why those against us felt they had to do such a thing.

I notice there was no silence for the 3000+ innocent civilians killed in Afghanistan since a certian Mr Bush's lauching of an attack against a (very vague) "axis of evil", which - given the current focus on Iraq - seems to be simply a device to keep the world's oils supplies comfortably low priced.

An eye for an eye doesn't work. The Americans have now killed more people in Afghanistan than were killed in the awful terrorist attack in New York: does that make it any less awful now that it's "one all"? Or does it actually make America appear much worse in the eyes of the people who have an even vague sympathy with the views of Oslama et al? We shall wait and see where all this Gulf War 2 business gets the reputaion of the USA in the middle east. just wish that muppett Blair wasn't going along with it all...

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I was going to avoid all this as I usually end up being attacked for saying anything but for an American to decry anyone with reference to terrorism is in itself a disgrace considering the vast sums of money generated that side of the pond for IRA related "business".

I find it a bit disturbing that someone who is quite clearly lacking in intellect considers themself to be a New Order fan. I always thought that (in general) NO fans were a bit more sussed than the rest...

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Guys.. if you want to start a thread like this, please have the decency to start a new one !!

I'm closing it for obvious purposes (and PLEASE Jonathan, it's not because you have posted in it!! :wink: )

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