Get Ready Reprise...

I was rushing out the house today and grabbed Get Ready as my in-car entertainment. Fuck me there's some utter shite on there.

Rock The Shack Slow Jam Primitive Notion Someone Like You

All of the above are bordering on the unlistenable. We must've all been caught up in the euphoria of having something new from them as I remember the album as being 'above average'. Although I think we all agreed on this very board at the time of release that Rock The Shack was possibly the worst thing they'd ever done. Anyway, it'll be another 4/5 years before I give it another spin that's for sure.

I'm gonna put WFTSC on tomorrow which I remember as being 'pretty shite' so that'll be an interesting experiment.

I really enjoyed Someone Like You. The production and mixing is excellent, I personally think apart from Crystal, 60mph and Vicious Streak its the best song on there.

I disagree! Lyrically, sure, its piss poor in a lot of places, but aren't all New Order albums?

As for the music I think Get Ready is one of their stronger albums. Crystal, on its own, its one of the best New Order songs ever recorded, up there with Blue Monday, Regret and True Faith.

Even today, it still sounds modern and fresh. The album does have its weak moments for sure, RTS definitely, but the tracks flow really well, it's a better crafted album than say, PCL, Brotherhood or Republic.

The strong tracks outnumber the weak though, in fact I would say that Rock The Shack and Slow Jam are the only two weak numbers on there. The rest are very strong songs.

Up there with Technique as my favourite New Order album.

I like both of the last two albums.

And I like Rock The Shack.

Meh.

All the songs are great musically, it's just the lyrics that cheese things up at times.

This album can work very well, with three minor tweaks.

1. Insert "Here To Stay" full length between Crystal and 60MPH as track 2

2. Replace "Rock the Shack" with "Brutal"

3. Replace the LP Mix of "Run Wild" with the longer version.

mark reed wrote: This album can work very well, with three minor tweaks.

1. Insert "Here To Stay" full length between Crystal and 60MPH as track 2

2. Replace "Rock the Shack" with "Brutal"

3. Replace the LP Mix of "Run Wild" with the longer version.

For that matter, I'd include Behind Close Doors and maybe Player in the League. It's the only NO album I'd like to see re-edited. Which, in fact, I did anyway on my laptop and on CD-R I made for my car.

The first half of GR is great (except 60mph, don't enjoy that), then it goes downhill. Like LowLife which I think is a criminally over-rated LP: side one's class, then side two is turgid (Elegaia), average (STYT), about wanking (Subculture), unlistenable (FU, strange coincidence in initials).

GlasVegas wrote: I was rushing out the house today and grabbed Get Ready as my in-car entertainment. Fuck me there's some utter shite on there.

Rock The Shack Slow Jam Primitive Notion Someone Like You

All of the above are bordering on the unlistenable.

Wow, I agree with the first two tracks you mention but really can't see much wrong with the other two esp Primitive Notion

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mark reed wrote: This album can work very well, with three minor tweaks.

1. Insert "Here To Stay" full length between Crystal and 60MPH as track 2

2. Replace "Rock the Shack" with "Brutal"

3. Replace the LP Mix of "Run Wild" with the longer version.

For that matter, I'd include Behind Close Doors and maybe Player in the League. It's the only NO album I'd like to see re-edited. Which, in fact, I did anyway on my laptop and on CD-R I made for my car.

Don't forget Sabotage!

Get Ready is just really, REALLY uneven, and as I don't care for the 'rawky' NO stuff, I dislike a handful of the tracks on there. But we got Crystal out of the deal, so I think it's a fair trade.

Here's how I listen to GR:

1. Crystal

2. 60 MPH, even though it's corny

SKIP Turn My Way (God, I like Smashing Pumpkins okay, but Corgan's voice is unbearable here. And the opener reminds me of Flight of the Conchords' "Bowie," but without the humor.)

4. Vicious Streak (crap lyrics-- 'you're like a solar flare in the rising sun'?-- but synthy.)

SKIP PN, SJ, RTS-- :bag:

8-9. SLY, CR-- just okay, and Barney lecturing anybody about excessive substance abuse is hilarious

10. Run Wild-- also corny but great

I can't stand the female vocals on the "Crystal" intro... sounds like a bad joke that isn't funny. Scary to think that they maybe thought it was cool. "Crystal" is good after that, even if too long. I think people tend to exaggerate it as a "hard rocker".

"Rock the Shack" is a horrible piss-take, or maybe they were just pissed. Is it supposed to be funny? Or an incredibly bad Stooges homage?

"Run Wild" is just cringe worthy. Half baked with inappropriate female vocals which sound like a joke on what seems like a personal song by Bernard. Wishy washy religious sentiment which sounds like from an American.

I always liked the Joy Divison homage of "Primitive Notion", they are allowed. Song is edited too long thou.

Like the B sides and the other songs okay, though many should have been edited shorter.

yeah, I made my own mix of b-sides stuck in for the "weaker" tracks and it workks for me. So...

Turn My Way is a great track in my opinion.

Turn My Way is easily one of the worst tracks New Order has ever penned.

And Glasvegas don't be dissin Someone Like You!

Love the whole album except for Turn My Way, which starts off alright but becomes unlistenable with the first appearance of that godawful whining voice courtesy of Mr Corgan.

My GR iTunes playlist:

1. Crystal
2. 60 MPH
3. Vicious Streak
4. Primitive Notion
5. Slow Jam
6. Rock The Shack
7. Someone Like You
8. Close Range
9. Run Wild
10. Behind Closed Doors
11. Sabotage
12. Here To Stay
13. Player In The League
14. Such A Good Thing
15. Full Circle
16. Run Wild (Media Markt teaser edit)

Ruskprick wrote: 15. Full Circle

What's this?

The absolute worst part about "Get Ready" is that even the strongest tracks meander on pointlessly for several minute after the last verse.

See also: "Brutal".

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Ruskprick wrote: 15. Full Circle

What's this?

It's a pre-release version of Run Wild, with several differences from the album version, most notably the intro

Get Ready isn't a good album. It's the worst album they've ever made. Period.

'Crystal' is great, though a tad overated, and one or two of the other tracks are reasonable, but 'Side 2' in particular, is trite. There is NO production on this record. Hannett would be spinning in his grave if he heard what little effort had been made in that department. It's a non rock and roll band, making a 'live' rock and roll record and it on the whole DOES NOT WORK. It's like a jam session for old musicians and a lot of wanking around.

'Rock The Shack' is appalling, dated, car crash of a record. How that made the final cut I have no idea, but it showed that the band had partially at least, lost it. Barney always banged on about 'Looking for the perfect beat', but there is no perfection here.

Full Circle is the version that's on CD5 of Retro, innit? Steve Osbourne Original?

Anyway.

Glas's thread here is quite timely for me as I prepared a USB stick to play in the car in a hurry and put on Low Life, GR and Never Cry Another Tear. Can only concur that Get Ready is a bit poo.

One difference that struck me is that GR starts with a long, fanfare-like introduction whereas Low Life effectively starts with a quick smack on a snare drum. I feel sure there is a lesson there.

Get Ready has got some terrible lyrics, and also some very good ones.

This morning's favourite was "I spent a day by myself, a rich man without his wealth", which I liked.

Five wrote: Get Ready has got some terrible lyrics, and also some very good ones.

This morning's favourite was "I spent a day by myself, a rich man without his wealth", which I liked.

"I don't know what to say,you don't care anyway" Could have been worse,he could have followed these words with "At the end of the day,I've got to make it pay"..

"Side A"?

"Side B"?

What are you talking about?

Seems like a lifetime since Ive thought "That sides better than the other side".

As you say, albums are just a big block of music these days. Its no wonder the yoof prefer to cherry pick downloadable mp3s. And Im as guilty of that as the yoof, too. I cant remember the last time I listened to an album from start to finish (in the right order).

I'll be buying the new Pop Will Eat Itself (on CD) in October and perhaps that'll end up in my car CD player but after that it'll end up all digital on the ipod forever to be listened to only when the Gods of Shuffle decide.

"Get Ready" is their very best of the "late albums". At last it turned me into a REAL fan - which led me here. I don't know if that's a blessing but it's a fact...

I think Crystals' crap but I know I'm on my own with that one. Shit album but not without it's moments.

60mph is good. It was the first thing I ever illegally downloaded off the internet when it appeared a good few months before the album came out. It was brilliant to hear that bass and those vocals again. Still rate it today in a 'it's not bad' kind of way. Close Range is also decent and I like Turn My Way, I think Corgan brings something to it. The rest, as I mentioned, is rotten.

Haven't yet got round to re-listening to WFTSC. Remembered as I was looking for it that I never actually went out and bought it as I was so unimpressed. Will need to burn a CD from iTunes. Surely it can't be as bad as GR??? From what I can recall WFTSC (the song) and Turn are two really good tracks which is two more 'really' good tracks than GR has for starters.

I think Crystal is over rated here but it served it's purpose as a comeback single in that it grabbed peoples attention,but there isn't that much going on musically in the song in my opinion. If you think Corgan ruins TMY then try listening to an entire Smashing Pumpkins album,some good songs buy made difficult to listen to by his vocals,but overall GR isn't that bad if you remove the two obvious turkeys and replace them with two of the better b-sides from the time.

GlasVegas wrote:

Haven't yet got round to re-listening to WFTSC. Remembered as I was looking for it that I never actually went out and bought it as I was so unimpressed. Will need to burn a CD from iTunes. Surely it can't be as bad as GR???

Of the two I prefer Get Ready by far Waiting For The Sirens Call isn't bad though, I love "Hey What You Doing", Krafty is sublime and Morning Night & Day is a decent "up" track.

But who knows, we have totally opposite opinions about Crystal and 60Mph

I don't mind Coogan on Turn My Way.Wouldn't listen to a Pumpkings album though.

Rock The Shack has got about as much life and passion as a Man U supporter celebrating a goal

johnny wrote: I don't mind Coogan on Turn My Way.Wouldn't listen to a Pumpkings album though.

Rock The Shack has got about as much life and passion as a Man U supporter celebrating a goal

I quite like the way the Alan Partridge backing vocals blend ;)

In all seriousness, I really like TMW - one of their top "late period" tunes IMO.

Dennis

The thick Americana sound of Get Ready is what makes it very anti-New Order. With a different production approach, all the songs would make a great album, on par with Brotherhood.

As for what would save Rock The Shack... A dub remix maybe? But seriously, if the band liked that little rocker, they should have put on a B-side - no one would ever complain.

My theory is that in 1980-1989 the band composed new songs and developed their sound without interruptions. It was a natural evolution. From song A to song B to song C, etc., so one could trace their sonic development and it may explain why there was no such a striking resentment over their new material as we witness nowadays.

WIM aside, 1989-1992 saw the first interruption of that evolutional flow. As a result, Republic's sound was way far removed from their previous works and some fans expressed their dissatisfaction. Then again a full stop.

In 1999 they started again with Brutal that came sounding like nothing else before in NO catalogue (references to their guitarry days as JD don't serve justice here). A big gap in their joint activity meant that they had evolved separately, developing different views on music and recording process. This time, however, they decided to carry on that writing process and so we got a "new" New Order, with a new steady sound and song writing process. Thus we got Get Ready and then WFTSC and just recently Hellbent, which sounds more like Player in the League but was recorded during the WFTSC sessions, only confirming the continuity of their newly found sound.

Now if they'll reform and record a new material, it would be probably something completely different from what we expect from NO, unless they'll deliberately produce a retro record.

johnny wrote: Wouldn't listen to a Pumpkings album though.

You should do , The Smashing Pumpkins are a fantastic group

I really like Turn My Way and its the only tune off Get Ready that I listen to quite often and don't get bored of. When Billy Corgan played live with New Order he gave the songs an extra lift.

Dennis Charles wrote:

johnny wrote: I don't mind Coogan on Turn My Way.Wouldn't listen to a Pumpkings album though.

Rock The Shack has got about as much life and passion as a Man U supporter celebrating a goal

I quite like the way the Alan Partridge backing vocals blend ;)

A-ha! Oh yeah. It's Corgan not Coogan

Music always divdes opinion and New Order fans are divided more than most!

The only thing we can all agree on is theat RTS should not have been on get Ready as in basic terms it is crap. It shoudl have been replaced with Here to Stay or one of the B sides from that time.

For what it is worth I like Get Ready. At the time of its release I was so pleased for one it was far better than their previus effort Reublic and for two it was New Order back together again.

Can't believe Turn My Way is getting slagged I love this track, but thats opinion for you only mine counts:)

WFTSC is much better than Get Ready.

But so is AIDS

Shug wrote: I'm probably the only one on here that likes Rock The Shack

Nah, Ive championed that song for ten years. Whats not to like? I think people hate it because it sounds nothing like New Order. No dated eighties bleeps and over-produced disco on that song.

RTS sounds like they were having fun in the studio alright (Or having a laugh) but I think TMY is the best song on the album, Billy Corgan is a talented musician (whatever about his voice)and it is for me let down by not by him but by the lines about Bernard not wanting to wash his car, I don't think Slow Jam has any redeeming features whatsoever. I seem to remember before GR was released that there was a rumour in the press that Moby was going to have some involvement..That might have yielded something interesting,couldn't have been any worse than RTS.

I don't know why, but I don't like Rock the Shack. It's not because it's rock-influenced; I like Regret, Who's Joe, Morning Night and Day...just that I don't like that sound of the song.

I used to dislike Primitive Notion, but I like it now.

my own two cents...

"Get Ready" all in all is a fantastic album and maybe their best or, let's say, their most important. Not only did they manage to sound relevant again after the long hiatus, but also became quite influential to a new generation of bands. I think their lifetime legendary status owns a lot to this comeback album. Just listen to the middle 8s of 60mph or someone like you, the manic ending of Primitive Notion, the warmth of Run Wild and the heartbreaking hopelessness of Turn My Way - Barney's lyrics are often tongue-in-cheek but they get across the picture quite well. It just sounded very contemporary, one of the great albums of that era.

WFTSC on the other hand in my opinion is just their worst album. Most songs without a real emotion, and nearly each one is a pastiche of New Order elements of the past. It was their first album which just sounded like a band that tries to emulate a New Order-formula. The production is boring and sounded dated the day it came out, the synths seemed like presets straight out of the laptop. A downward spiral that continued with NCAT, although the initial songwriting maybe was a little bit more inspired on that one. Maybe they should have sticked with Steve Osbourne.

joe davola wrote: my own two cents...

"Get Ready" all in all is a fantastic album and maybe their best or, let's say, their most important. Not only did they manage to sound relevant again after the long hiatus, but also became quite influential to a new generation of bands. I think their lifetime legendary status owns a lot to this comeback album. Just listen to the middle 8s of 60mph or someone like you, the manic ending of Primitive Notion, the warmth of Run Wild and the heartbreaking hopelessness of Turn My Way - Barney's lyrics are often tongue-in-cheek but they get across the picture quite well. It just sounded very contemporary, one of the great albums of that era.

WFTSC on the other hand in my opinion is just their worst album. Most songs without a real emotion, and nearly each one is a pastiche of New Order elements of the past. It was their first album which just sounded like a band that tries to emulate a New Order-formula. The production is boring and sounded dated the day it came out, the synths seemed like presets straight out of the laptop. A downward spiral that continued with NCAT, although the initial songwriting maybe was a little bit more inspired on that one. Maybe they should have sticked with Steve Osbourne.

I like both of the last two albums.

And I LOVE "Primitive Notion".

I think "Get Ready" is much better than "Republic"...

Conduit's a feisty one, isn't (s)he?

You'll be right at home here.

I wasnt on here when WFTSC was released but I imagine the Rock The Shack-haters also hated Working Overtime.

I liked that too. Again, something a bit different.

Jonny Donepoindatgunname wrote: Conduit's a feisty one, isn't (s)he?

You'll be right at home here.

Could be an aka...

Gene wrote: I wasnt on here when WFTSC was released but I imagine the Rock The Shack-haters also hated Working Overtime.

I liked that too. Again, something a bit different.

Working Overtime is in a totally different league of shitness compared to Rock The Shack which I can actually listen to.

why do people play that game? because they shoved some shit on the album and some much better songs hidden away on bsides.

I think everybody has compiled and resequenced their own version of Wet Freddie anyway.

It's a frustratingly patchy album though. Always has been. Like some people here I hate the wailing female vocals on every single track. What is it about bands from the 80s (of which New Order most definitely are!) always having to have female backing vocalists (usually black as well). Talk about cliched!!!

Crystal is a classic case of a great song ruined by female backing vocals.

Someone Like You's female vocals sound like Gillian actually (perhaps it is her - after all, she did sing on Avalanche.....)

However, in terms of how many tracks are dud, this is still a better ratio than on Republic which has five good songs and six boring ones.

Tracks that are good:

Crystal Turn My Way Vicious Streak Close Range

Tracks that are okay but nothing special:

60 MPH Primitive Notion Run Wild

Tracks that are "meh":

Someone Like You Slow Jam

Tracks that suck:

Rock The Shack

everyoneverywhere wrote:

Gene wrote: I wasnt on here when WFTSC was released but I imagine the Rock The Shack-haters also hated Working Overtime.

I liked that too. Again, something a bit different.

Working Overtime is in a totally different league of shitness compared to Rock The Shack which I can actually listen to.

Sounds like Im not a proper fan. I dont get why people rave about Brutal, fer instance. Always sounds like a half-arsed Electronic B-Side to me. And I prefer Movement to PC&L - that says it all.

Sounds like a poll coming on Whats better Rock the Shack or Working Overtime. I prefer Working Overtime although not literally, once work is done its done then I'm home to rock the shack.

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: What is it about bands from the 80s (of which New Order most definitely are!) always having to have female backing vocalists (usually black as well). Talk about cliched!!!

I guess we should be grateful there wasn't a sax solo...

everyoneverywhere wrote:

Gene wrote: I wasnt on here when WFTSC was released but I imagine the Rock The Shack-haters also hated Working Overtime.

I liked that too. Again, something a bit different.

Working Overtime is in a totally different league of shitness compared to Rock The Shack which I can actually listen to.

I agree, WO is probably the worst NO song of all time- a really pointless exercise. I kind of like Rock the Shack, but don't listen to it that often.

Dennis

amurr586 wrote:

Gene wrote: I dont get why people rave about Brutal, fer instance. Always sounds like a half-arsed Electronic B-Side to me.

Personally, I would rather Brutal sounded like a half-arsed Electronic b-side than a half-arsed Stooges reject. At least sounding like a half-arsed Electronic b-side it has some recognisable New Order DNA in there instead of them aping 70s garage rock. Badly.

I think you have a fear of change.

amurr586 wrote:

Gene wrote: I think you have a fear of change.

Bollocks.

Fair comment.

To me both tracks sound perfectly executed. I dont see what the fuss is.

The only track off the last two albums to be violently deleted from my ipod was I told You So.

I mean what the fuck was that song done for? Comic Relief?

Republic's the best New Order album anyway. Everyone knows that.

Rock the Shack was recorded here in Dublin in Pulse Studios, where I studied sound engineering.

One of the engineers who is a huge New Order fan hung around outside to get PC&L signed.

He later walked in on the session where they were recording Rock the Shack and said he was shocked at how crap they were.

I suppose the song didn't help.

Have to say.....[ducking]......I don't mind it at all. In a "Warsaw" kind of way...

Gene wrote:

The only track off the last two albums to be violently deleted from my ipod was I told You So.

I think that is the one song what will have most people here in agreement,I think I listened to it from start to finish once,or is there someone willing to stick their neck out and defend it

cranelane wrote:

Gene wrote:

The only track off the last two albums to be violently deleted from my ipod was I told You So.

I think that is the one song what will have most people here in agreement,I think I listened to it from start to finish once,or is there someone willing to stick their neck out and defend it

Me, I really like it, I think it's a great tune. I actually prefer the remix more than the original.

Didn't the remix of "Told You So" have a boatload of new stuff added to it by Barney?

Anyway, Rock The Shack is much worse than The Stooges. The Stooges are awesome.

mark reed wrote: Didn't the remix of "Told You So" have a boatload of new stuff added to it by Barney?

Anyway, Rock The Shack is much worse than The Stooges. The Stooges are awesome.

The I told You So Remix is an improvement I guess,for me the "Dancehall" style of intro to the album version was a turn off,the remix has a kind of Velvets drone about it..

Personally speaking rock the shag is worse track on get steady and working overtime likewise for wtftsc.

I don't think barneys voice suits either track, far too weak.

As for turn my way, I like corgans voice so I dont have an issue with him sharing vocals. I would say it's barneys vocals that are more jarring " the sky would not be gwey". And a great track is ruined by the whole washing cars and not owning a key drivel.

Any likability of rock the shock is rubies by that horrible warbling noise on the second verse. I thought I had a faulty cd at first.

IMO get Freddie has 8 goodish tracks and what the fuck the sirens called has 6.

mark reed wrote: Didn't the remix of "Told You So" have a boatload of new stuff added to it by Barney?

Not that I know of. Think you might be mixing it up with the WFTSC call mix that came out at the same time.

Tribute mix is definitively wonderful. I thought the Told You So had some extra guitar and keyboards from Barney, but I could be wrong.

Ger Boy wrote:

mark reed wrote: Didn't the remix of "Told You So" have a boatload of new stuff added to it by Barney?

Not that I know of. Think you might be mixing it up with the WFTSC call mix that came out at the same time.

Ooh i've not heard that version of the Tribute mix before. It's much longer than the one i know.Superb

So... happy 10th anniversary, Get Ready :)

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Yeah i remember listening to it the first time in the sunshine in my back garden that August bank holiday 2001. I had the rare thing of not having heard any of it (apart from Crystal radio edit) til i had the official CD in my hands. Hadn't got into downloading back then and hadn't heard any of it on stuff like Peel's show.Also, hadn't gone to the Liverpool Olympia gig the month before.

None of it bowled me over on that first listen. I do remember thinking how unremarkable and wishy washy Barney's lyrics seemed. Vicious Streak was the first song that i took to on second and third listens.

johnny wrote:

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Yeah i remember listening to it the first time in the sunshine in my back garden that August bank holiday 2001. I had the rare thing of not having heard any of it (apart from Crystal radio edit) til i had the official CD in my hands. Hadn't got into downloading back then and hadn't heard any of it on stuff like Peel's show.Also, hadn't gone to the Liverpool Olympia gig the month before.

None of it bowled me over on that first listen. I do remember thinking how unremarkable and wishy washy Barney's lyrics seemed. Vicious Streak was the first song that i took to on second and third listens.

Of course, Crystal was epic, monumental... After the first listen - back in August 2001, - the tracks that stood out were those with a synth feel: Vicious Streak, Someone Like You. Just as with Twisted Tenderness I preferred Make It Happen and the title track (which, is weakly produced IMHO). So, no, I didn't care much for the guitar stuff on either album (by then I had not listened to guitar music for years).

I would say, in 1981-1986 albums, there was an excitement of something new, you could feel they tested their creativity. Here it was just way too conventional...

Shug wrote: if memory serves it was Corgan who said that New Order's back catalogue was as good as The Beatles (or was it Moby?)

Must have meant The Beatles. New Order's back catalogue is far better than Moby's.

I don't share the hate about some of those tracks on Get Ready and Waiting. No skipping here when I play them (though I have to admit that would be difficult, because I usually play the vinyl version). In fact, if NO would play near my town next week and I'd know the setlist would consist only of Working Overtime, Rock The shack, I Told You So, Slow Jam and the rest of the "shite tracks" mentioned here, I'd buy a ticket this minute.

Bram wrote:

Shug wrote: if memory serves it was Corgan who said that New Order's back catalogue was as good as The Beatles (or was it Moby?)

Must have meant The Beatles. New Order's back catalogue is far better than Moby's.

He means was it Corgan or Moby that said it

GlasVegas

Everything on Get Ready may have been rubbish, but there were some great songs on the Waiting For The Sirens' Call album.

Most of Get Ready's 'songs' were either two-chord 'rap (with a capital 'C'), or one-chord-phrase rubbish.

Do check out Morning, Night And Day and Guilt Is A Useless Emotion (which won an award, at least someone on this forum said so in 2005).

Empress Touch wrote: GlasVegas

Everything on Get Ready may have been rubbish, but there were some great songs on the Waiting For The Sirens' Call album.

Most of Get Ready's 'songs' were either two-chord 'rap (with a capital 'C'), or one-chord-phrase rubbish.

Do check out Morning, Night And Day and Guilt Is A Useless Emotion (which won an award, at least someone on this forum said so in 2005).

no comment

I agree its utter garbage,I just got caught up in all the hipe about a new NO release. Its not a PCL.or a Lowlife or the mighty Tech..... Siren is not any better either, with the exception of Turn. :\ohwell:

It was probably recorded in Corby!:D

I find Get Ready a strange album to listen to.

9/11 had just happened, I'd moved to Hackney, and I was tanning the E and going out to clubs in London a lot. Vicious Streak brings all those weird feelings back.

Primitive Notion is quality though, it's a soaring tune that I'd file as classic sounding New Order. Here to Stay should have been included though.

And, for the record, I'd prefer New order sounding digital Dancehall than Stooges-lite garage rock. So, yeah, I don't mind I Told You So.

But apart from Technique, all New Order albums are patchy

Movement (heavy going from start to finish) PC&L (We all stand, Ecstasy, not the best version of 586) Lowlife (Sooner than you think, Sunrise, not the best version of Perfect Kiss) Brotherhood (Broken Promise, Way of Life, Angel Dust) Republic (most of the album after Everyone Everywhere)

Bram wrote: In fact, if NO would play near my town next week and I'd know the setlist would consist only of Working Overtime, Rock The shack, I Told You So, Slow Jam and the rest of the "shite tracks" mentioned here, I'd buy a ticket this minute.

That's cuz you'd still hope secretly to hear Blue Monday...

GlasVegas wrote: I was rushing out the house today and grabbed Get Ready as my in-car entertainment. Fuck me there's some utter shite on there.

Rock The Shack Slow Jam Primitive Notion Someone Like You

All of the above are bordering on the unlistenable. We must've all been caught up in the euphoria of having something new from them as I remember the album as being 'above average'. Although I think we all agreed on this very board at the time of release that Rock The Shack was possibly the worst thing they'd ever done. Anyway, it'll be another 4/5 years before I give it another spin that's for sure.

I'm gonna put WFTSC on tomorrow which I remember as being 'pretty shite' so that'll be an interesting experiment.

I think these songs are very good and I enjoy listening to them, Primitive Notion is an amazing song.

I've barely listened to Get Ready in years, so that probably says a lot.

Bar Crystal, Someone Like You and Vicious Streak, the rest is either average or total crap (i.e. Rock The Shack, Slow Jam).

Here to Stay definitely should have been on the album, and I'd put all of the B-sides, despite them not being 'outstanding' by any stretch, on there too.

every second counts

Get Ready's 10th anniversary was obviously a world-shaking event wasn't it? ;)

I would probably play about three songs max on it now - virtually the same as with Republic.

Crystal still remains one of their more overrated songs (those female b/vs really need to be kicked into touch).

Turn My Way is fine except for Corgan's whiney vocals.

Primitive Notion is okay. Ditto Vicious Streak.

Close Range is the highlight for me cos it sounds like the Chemicals in the oscillating intro.

I've now revised my opinion of the closer, Run Wild...... I think it is a spinelessly aimless ballad for fucking hippies. It just shows that New Order were losing their edge by coming up with sentimental dreck like this, it is so ill-fitting.....

Agree that some of the b-sides and HTS (albeit a better produced mix) should have been on there instead.

DShamen wrote: I've barely listened to Get Ready in years, so that probably says a lot.

Bar Crystal, Someone Like You and Vicious Streak, the rest is either average or total crap (i.e. Rock The Shack, Slow Jam).

Here to Stay definitely should have been on the album, and I'd put all of the B-sides, despite them not being 'outstanding' by any stretch, on there too.

So, you don't like it but want it to be longer?

That's like the old ladies that complain about a restaurant: The food is terrible and the portions are too small!

Andy wrote:

DShamen wrote: I've barely listened to Get Ready in years, so that probably says a lot.

Bar Crystal, Someone Like You and Vicious Streak, the rest is either average or total crap (i.e. Rock The Shack, Slow Jam).

Here to Stay definitely should have been on the album, and I'd put all of the B-sides, despite them not being 'outstanding' by any stretch, on there too.

So, you don't like it but want it to be longer?

That's like the old ladies that complain about a restaurant: The food is terrible and the portions are too small!

NotAMod wrote: Still agree with what I wrote last year. The band composed a pool of songs around 1999-2001, selected a running order for the final LP but chose at least two or three of the weaker ones and consigned a couple of the really good ones to b sides. It could have been something better.

Looking back I don't think Get Ready is a brilliant LP but it was the album we got at the time and it reinvigorated the fanbase enough for the gigs to take place. It did what it should have done and you can't really ask much more of a new album I.e. provide a reason for the band to exist both creatively and in terms of getting them out on the road.

Got to be said that even though it's not their strongest it was allegedly their first outing as "New Order Mark 2" which Hook recently declared his favourite incarnation of the band (minus Gillian, of course) and that GR was essentially a Sumner/Hook co-write with little input from Steve.

As fans we can make of that what we will, it's all there in black and white.

Weird, never heard it as lacking in Steve's input.

Though it does sound like Hooky's last major writing effort within NO, and an effort that hadn't been a full fourth/third since the days after Brotherhood.

Turn My Way is still my favourite track from Get Ready after all these years.

Overall I think it's a far superior album to the mostly dreadful Siren's Call.

Andy wrote:

DShamen wrote: I've barely listened to Get Ready in years, so that probably says a lot.

Bar Crystal, Someone Like You and Vicious Streak, the rest is either average or total crap (i.e. Rock The Shack, Slow Jam).

Here to Stay definitely should have been on the album, and I'd put all of the B-sides, despite them not being 'outstanding' by any stretch, on there too.

So, you don't like it but want it to be longer?

That's like the old ladies that complain about a restaurant: The food is terrible and the portions are too small!

It would have been a significantly better listening experience with those other tracks replacing some of those on the album.

Here to Stay, Crystal and Someone Like You are amongst my favourite New Order songs.

Get Ready also suffered chartwise because it was released on the same day as about a dozen other BIG names - The Strokes, Bjork, fucking Slipknot and Five (two polar opposites anybody? Boybands from hell!!!!! I would think so!), Mercury Rev and Nelly Furtado didn't help.....

Who was the clever dick behind its release date I wonder? That surely affected its chances.

Sure enough, it sank without trace a month later didn't it?

I personally enjoy Get Ready for what it is, yes I substitute Rock the Cack for B sides(since it's on my zune, simple to just add tracks in). Was it brilliant? Not in the slightest, had moments of brilliance, marred by complete brickwall mastering, odd running order, and the occasional dodgy lyric, but it's still loads better than Jetstream(though that isn't hard).

Weirdly if you count In Session the last three New Order albums have been released in the UK on a bank holiday. So maybe Lost Sirens will land a little later than (currently) expected and hit us 9th April........

I remember loving Get Ready on first listen, except for Rock the Shack (mostly because Shoot Speed Kill Light was my favourite tune at the time). Like others have said, it's a shame Sabotage wasn't on there.

i think this record has aged really, really well. Primitive Notion is one of my absolute favorites. the only song i don't really care for is Rock the Shack.

This is how I'm listening to this album (well, songs from this period) these days...

Shipwreck Of A Broken Man (Turn My Way demo)BrutalCrystalHere To StayVicious StreakPrimitive NotionShoot Speed/Kill Light (Primal Scream)Out Of Control (Chemical Brothers)SabotageBlack Rain (Monaco)Slow JamSomeone Like YouClose RangeRun Wild (Steve Osborne original mix from Retro)Behind Closed DoorsSuch A Good Thing

for 32 years gillian, stephen,and peter have never publically questioned bernard's voice or words.

keepitcoming wrote: for 32 years gillian, stephen,and peter have never publically questioned bernard's voice or words.

are you responding to something in this thread? what your point be?