[orange]Jack[/orange] wrote:
Zachery Starkey wrote:
colin sumner wrote:
Lets put this to bed once and for all.
Without Hooky it aint new order.
and by 1989 their best days were behind them.Got it?
Nah, let's correct it.
Hooky wasn't New Order.
He was part of New Order, he played awesome high bass parts over songs written by Bernard, Gillian, and Steve.
Bernard is an amazing songwriter, singer, keyboardist, and producer.
Gillian is an amazing keyboard player who created little mini symphonies.
Steve is a brilliant drummer and programmer.
Hooky added his distintive high bass to the above.
But you know know? Hooky quit New Order like a child and is playing JD songs with a cover band.
The others are moving on together, and while it is missing an important component (because I will always love Peter Hook), New Order lives on.
Also, don't see how thier best days were pre 1989..
Given that Crystal, Regret, HTS, WFTSC, and the several other great tracks which rank as some of their best work came out after 1989.
I hope they come to NYC. I am gonna make a big banner that says WELCOME BACK GILLIAN and hold it up in the front row.
well that cover band is coming to NYC on tuesday. i'll put you on the guestlist if you like, maybe you could bring the banner... 
I have actually been debating whether to come to the show Tuesday. I just started a new job, so I am between paychecks.
However, if I came, why would I make up a banner saying WELCOME BACK, GILLIAN? She isn't a member of the Light!
I'd be more likely to make a banner saying PINEAPPLE FACE because I'd love to hear Hooky and co play it, my favorite Revenge tune, and I even told Hooky that in an email a few years ago.
You understand, don't you, that I am not part of this split fan thing? I think it's fine that Hooky is doing JD records live with you guys, and I think its fine that the other members of NO are playing as NO. Everyone is doing what they want.
Like, I don't think Hooky is the villain, nor is Bernard. And I don't think there is anything wrong with The Light.
Would I rather hear The Light come up with some new material than do just JD songs? YES. I've said on here many times that I like Hooky's singing voice and I would rather hear you guys do some new songs than just JD albums. That being said, if you wanna just do JD songs, that's fine with me. I know I have referred to you as a cover band, but I know it takes a lot of skill to accurately reproduce those JD songs live. I've considered coming to see you twice now (couldn't get the night off work last time you were in NYC).
All I have tried to do in these arguments is point out that Hooky quit NO and is doing the Light, and the other four members of NO want to carry on as NO, and both are fine by me. I don't think anyone is the bad guy.
If I met Hooky, I'd say as much to him. In spite of the NO split and the press arguments and my preference for new music over doing old, I am still a Peter Hook fan. He is one of my favorite bass players, and a few years back, he took the time to answer some questions I had in emails. I'm still a fan of your Dad's, so don't lump me in the Anti-Hooky camp.
I am not Anti any current or former member of New Order. Everyone do what they want. Hooky is doing what he wants. Good on him.
Anyways, if you wanna put me on the guest list, that would be great. I'll get up front and you can totally make fun of me and call me an idiot. A small price to pay to hear The Eternal, Decades, and Heart and Soul live.
Don't make me out to be a bad guy here, Jack. Cheers to ya!
