Dear Hooky

Amazes me how much information people have about all this.

All from the horses mouth, I assume, and not based on quotes in the newspapers?

I agree with you !

Five wrote: Amazes me how much information people have about all this.

All from the horses mouth, I assume, and not based on quotes in the newspapers?

I TOLD YOU so

Five wrote: Amazes me how much information people have about all this.

All from the horses mouth, I assume, and not based on quotes in the newspapers?

I'd forgotten that thread - restores my faith in humanity reading it!

mark reed wrote:

leather_girl wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: I believe Hooky would have never left New Order; he was the one who always wanted to tour and record new music with them. Maybe Bernard told him something that compelled Hooky to leave. Bernard should speak up and ask Hooky to come back.

I don't even think Bernard even wants to work with Hooky any more. http://www.tonedeaf.com.au/features/interviews/80264/new-order-turn-towards-this-time-part-2.htm From this interview...

Sumner quietly says “I don’t think I could work with Peter Hook again. Um, I don’t think I’d like to tour again after what’s gone on. Things have gone too far, too many things have been said and done. I’m not a masochist.” When asked about the massive popularity in Australia last year of Peter Hook’s tour with his band The Light playing Joy Division’s debut album Unknown Pleasures in full Sumner is quick to point out that what in effect is Hook’s live Joy Division karaoke was the straw that broke the camel’s back. “Things have gone too far, yeah. The flogging of Pleasures is probably a point of no return.”

"...We didn’t make our reputation by constantly dredging up the past and living off that past. And I know we were talking today about the collecting of the bands’ material, but we’re at a point where we can’t move forward because of what’s happened between the band and Peter Hook. You know, New Order were about the future. I hope people think about that deeply.”

That last quote from Barney is more perceptive than many people have noticed. The first time NewOrder did any formal retrospective (aside from "Substance", which collected the -mostly non-album- singles), was 1994 when they had formally split up ; and even that contained new recordings and revamped mixes.

Australians are grateful for artists making the trip out here. New Order toured here in 2002, before that it was 1987. 15 years gap. Sure, they didn't play for 5 years, but still a long time.

Never understood the whole 'Bernard's a control freak' thing.

It's funny, I've returned to posting on the board after a hiatus since 2007/2008. I remember I stopped partially because a lot of threads seemed to take Hooky's various statements at face value. Just because Hooky speaks more often to the press doesn't mean he's more transparent than the others. And frankly, when he's not slagging Bernard and co. he tells the same anecdotes about Ian Curtis' 'famous maxims' over and over again. Now, it is cool when Hooky talks about recording sessions and the like. I wish he'd do it more. But he seems to be running away from New Order, and really, how many more insights can there possibly be made about Unknown Pleasures?