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I can't stop listening to it - it's sooo good! I love that they picked up the pace, and included the backward passage from the Peel Sessions version.
I want to hear them tackle Everything's Gone Green, now!
So happy to see Steve playing an acoustic drum kit again.
I can't stop listening to it! I really hope they play it here in Brazil. That will be the happiest day ever!
Can someone please tell Phil that not every song automatically sounds better with a shedload of extra widdly woo geetar.
Is it me.. or on that Paris youtube.. at about 4mins.. Barney does the 'in the future, when you wan't me in your heart, I won't be there' lines, he accompanies them with hand signals and a V sign. Is this aimed at anyone, do you reckon? 
Burt Burterson wrote: Is it me.. or on that Paris youtube.. at about 4mins.. Barney does the 'in the future, when you wan't me in your heart, I won't be there' lines, he accompanies them with hand signals and a V sign. Is this aimed at anyone, do you reckon?
Good point
, yeah noticed the v sign he did
50 Pound Note wrote:
So happy to see Steve playing an acoustic drum kit again.
Amen. Literally the first thought I had when I saw stills of the stage.
Thought it was ace, they never realy captured the live feel of the original and this goes back to that in a way,
can you hear.
Was THERE and I have to say that when it kicked in it was a very special moment, brilliant....
They've taken a track of which the studio version I've never been that keen on, and turned it into the highlight of the whole set [for me]
The youtube videos don't do it justice either, sounded 10 times better in the venue.
Hoping more recordings will surface.
listening to it and watching the video I get goosebumps. Brilliant version of the song, but then again, I've always loved it. Makes me wonder if they can re-tool this one, what else can they re-tool? Further, what could they do with more synths in the studio mix???
Love it...just love it.
Gnu Odor wrote:
50 Pound Note wrote: So happy to see Steve playing an acoustic drum kit again.
Amen. Literally the first thought I had when I saw stills of the stage.
Stephen used this drum kit in 2009 for the Bad Lieutenant gig in Paris 
Burt Burterson wrote: Is it me.. or on that Paris youtube.. at about 4mins.. Barney does the 'in the future, when you wan't me in your heart, I won't be there' lines, he accompanies them with hand signals and a V sign. Is this aimed at anyone, do you reckon?
I saw that too on the video. I wonder why he's doing these hand gestures. (Not that it bothered me or anything.) For example, in the video I saw of Temptation being played in Brussels, I saw Bernard doing hand motions too.
Oh and this live version of 586 was incredible. 
Fook me... That version of 586 was ace! Let's hope that if they make a studio album it's the same kinda stripped back electro-rock like this and not over-produced mid-tempo fluff (like hellbent, bad lieutenant etc... Just an opinion).
father jack wrote: Fook me... That version of 586 was ace! Let's hope that if they make a studio album it's the same kinda stripped back electro-rock like this and not over-produced mid-tempo fluff (like hellbent, bad lieutenant etc... Just an opinion).
That would be fantastic, but I doubt it, I'd be happy if they released an album of decent live recordings of this, temptation and a few other reworked tracks.
Meh.
[Sequenced] Synths was what made this track what it was - special and ground-breaking.
Doing a guitar version simply does not work......in any capacity.
Neither does it being played on acoustic drums.
Evolution. This should smash the crowd in Brazil. Always loved the two studio versions I knew - it's like they (Bernard) just realised he was sitting on a gold mine .When he remembers he helped on Procession it's going to be...finished?
By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Meh.
[Sequenced] Synths was what made this track what it was - special and ground-breaking.
Doing a guitar version simply does not work......in any capacity.
Neither does it being played on acoustic drums.
This new live version of the song still has plenty of live synths on it plus programmed bass. Phil plays one of the melody parts as a kind of funky guitar part, which I like. It might actually be a guitar on the original recording, it is hard to tell.
This version of the seems based more on the BBC live version than the album version I think.
Also, New Order always used live acoustic drums when playing this track live.
Speaking of which, I agree with everyone NO sound so much better with Steve playing an acoustic drum kit again.
Zachery Starkey wrote:
By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Meh.
[Sequenced] Synths was what made this track what it was - special and ground-breaking.
Doing a guitar version simply does not work......in any capacity.
Neither does it being played on acoustic drums.
This new live version of the song still has plenty of live synths on it plus programmed bass. Phil plays one of the melody parts as a kind of funky guitar part, which I like. It might actually be a guitar on the original recording, it is hard to tell.
This version of the seems based more on the BBC live version than the album version I think.
Also, New Order always used live acoustic drums when playing this track live.
Speaking of which, I agree with everyone NO sound so much better with Steve playing an acoustic drum kit again.
I agree that Steve is better playing on acoustic kit (with the odd trigger pad or electronic equipment close at hand) than that Roland electronic one he's been using for ages now....
Still can't make my mind up about this version though. So used to hearing it in a particular way, I suppose that's where my judgement is based from.
I like it... 
But what I like more is that they seem unafraid to revisit something slightly leftfield and have a go at a rejigged version... All the speculation pre-gigs for as long as I can remember on here has been whether they would do something unexpected... Mini JD set at Wembley, AOC/586 here, etc. however good they might be, at least they make you go 'Fook - wasn't expecting that'...
Snorri xxx
so if Gillian and Phil C. have keyboards, what does Steve do for the songs(BLT, TPK, BM, etc.) he used to play keyboards on?
g. wrote: so if Gillian and Phil C. have keyboards, what does Steve do for the songs(BLT, TPK, BM, etc.) he used to play keyboards on?
He's still playing keyboards, too - watch some of the videos.
More hands means less sequencer lines that need to be reconstructed for their current synth setup, and/or opportunities to add new elements.
The Sub-Cultured Perfect Kisser*!* wrote: Great!!!
Can anyone update the concert browser of this site??
g. wrote: so if Gillian and Phil C. have keyboards, what does Steve do for the songs(BLT, TPK, BM, etc.) he used to play keyboards on?
enjoys the gig
Does anyone know what Steve is using to play his synth parts on BLT, TPK, and BM now? He isn't using the big Kurzweill synth anymore?
Also, did anyone notice that during TPK at these gigs, the bass synth solo was plaed by Tom Chapman on the bass guitar and not by Steve on this synth? Only thing about these gigs that I didn't like....
Zachery Starkey wrote: Does anyone know what Steve is using to play his synth parts on BLT, TPK, and BM now? He isn't using the big Kurzweill synth anymore?
Also, did anyone notice that during TPK at these gigs, the bass synth solo was played by Tom Chapman on the bass guitar and not by Steve on this synth? Only thing about these gigs that I didn't like....
IMHO they would be better off using a bass synth on BM as well.
Zachery Starkey"]Speaking of which, I agree with everyone NO sound so much better with Steve playing an acoustic drum kit again.
Looking forward to listening True Faith original version again
This new version really is something special. I love the way they have rebuilt it from the Peel Version and LP Mix, and when I listen to it, I can easily hear where you could merge into EGG, then OOC, then Temptation in a 20 minute mash. That'd knock your socks off.
Someone tell the band to get a good live recording of it and release it to iTunes for all to enjoy.
That should be a no-brainer you'd think...
Either that or a new iTunes Originals type of release. I'm sure Steve's farm studio is up to the task.
*end of wishful thinking*
Have any decent audience audio recordings turned up yet?
Dennis Remmer wrote: Someone tell the band to get a good live recording of it and release it to iTunes for all to enjoy.
That should be a no-brainer you'd think...
Either that or a new iTunes Originals type of release. I'm sure Steve's farm studio is up to the task.
*end of wishful thinking*
Have any decent audience audio recordings turned up yet?
0_o wrote:
Dennis Remmer wrote:
Jed Stephens wrote: My verion's here: 586-2011
Nice work matey.
Good job.
Not sure why "5 8 6" didn't get much remix/remake action over the last 3 decades. "5 8 6" is in many ways maybe their best potential acid/house remix.
They're only playing to piss Hooky off. Everyone knows that. 
Oh, and good work, Jed.
Just listened to PLC for the first time in years. I'd love to see them dust off Ecstasy and play it live again. It's another song that having Gillian play live synths on really adds another dimension. Plus it gives them an instrumental to play mid-gig.
Ger Boy wrote: Always wondered , does 586 mean anything?
It's to do with the structure of the song Ecstacy. Five bars followed by eight bars followed by six bars.
That's a really great video. Thanks for putting it up. Also, it's great to see how big the visuals work with the band. It really elevates New Order's game, especially on the festival circuit. IMO, this should have happened a long, long time ago, especially when you think about all the aesthetics and iconic images that New Order has.
Um die ecke bringen wrote: Just listened to PLC for the first time in years. I'd love to see them dust off Ecstasy and play it live again...
...again?
johnny james wrote:
Um die ecke bringen wrote: Just listened to PLC for the first time in years. I'd love to see them dust off Ecstasy and play it live again...
...again?
As I know they never played it live indeed
Um die ecke bringen wrote: Just listened to PLC for the first time in years. I'd love to see them dust off Ecstasy and play it live again. It's another song that having Gillian play live synths on really adds another dimension. Plus it gives them an instrumental to play mid-gig.
Other than We All Stand, that's the PC&L track I'd least like to hear live.
50 Pound Note wrote: I can't stop listening to it - it's sooo good! I love that they picked up the pace, and included the backward passage from the Peel Sessions version.
I want to hear them tackle Everything's Gone Green, now!
So happy to see Steve playing an acoustic drum kit again.
I totally agree! Brilliant! One of the very best!
I'd like to hear/see them playing "Everything's Gone Green" live again, as they did in a couple of gigs in 2005. It would be great.
Andy wrote:
Um die ecke bringen wrote: Just listened to PLC for the first time in years. I'd love to see them dust off Ecstasy and play it live again. It's another song that having Gillian play live synths on really adds another dimension. Plus it gives them an instrumental to play mid-gig.
Other than We All Stand, that's the PC&L track I'd least like to hear live.
Next to 586 and Age of Consent, Ecstasy is my favorite song on PCL. Brilliant track.
Zachery Starkey wrote:
Andy wrote:
Um die ecke bringen wrote: Just listened to PLC for the first time in years. I'd love to see them dust off Ecstasy and play it live again. It's another song that having Gillian play live synths on really adds another dimension. Plus it gives them an instrumental to play mid-gig.
Other than We All Stand, that's the PC&L track I'd least like to hear live.
Next to 586 and Age of Consent, Ecstasy is my favorite song on PCL. Brilliant track.
No mention of Leave Me Alone? An absolute classic in my opinion.
Zachery Starkey wrote:
Andy wrote:
Um die ecke bringen wrote: Just listened to PLC for the first time in years. I'd love to see them dust off Ecstasy and play it live again. It's another song that having Gillian play live synths on really adds another dimension. Plus it gives them an instrumental to play mid-gig.
Other than We All Stand, that's the PC&L track I'd least like to hear live.
Next to 586 and Age of Consent, Ecstasy is my favorite song on PCL. Brilliant track.
Glad somebody agrees with me. 
I also love Ecstasy (the song). Although it is quite prescient as it does sound like an acid house track.
"Ecstasy" is a fantastic track with a fookin' brilliant acoustic drum riff. But my opinion is suspect beacause "PC&L" is one of my favorite N.O. albuns too.
