I know most people don't care and they are going to make fun of me but I was very upset that they didn't edit out the profanity that Bernard uses in the troxy album, especially after the perfect kiss, when he uses the C#$T word, that really upset me, I know they use profanity in interviews and I can let go of an occasional F word but the C#$T word really upset me, I wished that I hadn't bought 2 copies of the album, again I know most people don't care and think that there is NOTHING wrong in saying PROFANE and FILTHY things but I am not like that, I am sorry if I am being rude but I have to be honest.
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linus sulanki wrote: I know most people don't care and they are going to make fun of me but I was very upset that they didn't edit out the profanity that Bernard uses in the troxy album, especially after the perfect kiss, when he uses the C#$T word, that really upset me, I know they use profanity in interviews and I can let go of an occasional F word but the C#$T word really upset me, I wished that I hadn't bought 2 copies of the album, again I know most people don't care and think that there is NOTHING wrong in saying PROFANE and FILTHY things but I am not like that, I am sorry if I am being rude but I have to be honest.
no one should make fun of a principled opinion for a start.
i think the swear words are what make the performance human because people do say these things in life and its a lot better than miming and economical driven censorship. i know of several musicians who have political or social opinions that they would like to air but are afraid too because of being in the pocket or dropped by their label.
i dont agree with parental warnings about bad language but its a fair compromise ultimately. was there any warning on the cd?
Send both copies back and ask for a refund if you are that upset.
Or send them back, ask them to resticker the sleeves with "Parental Warning: The Singer Says 'Cunt' At Some Point" and get them to return them to you.
Nick King wrote: Barney says the word, "cunt"? Really? I must relisten to the CD again! :p
"C#$T"
linus sulanki wrote:
Nick King wrote: Barney says the word, "cunt"? Really? I must relisten to the CD again! :p
"C#$T"
I think the word is "cunt", Linus! :p
linus sulanki wrote:
Nick King wrote: Barney says the word, "cunt"? Really? I must relisten to the CD again! :p
"C#$T"
Clit? 
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote:
Nick King wrote: Barney says the word, "cunt"? Really? I must relisten to the CD again! :p
"C#$T"
Clit?
bit below the belt dont you think?
Reminds me of this sticker:
Personally I get more offended by people getting offended by profanity than the profanity itself. Could someone please put a sticker on this thread?
THESE DAYS WHAT IS WRONG IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS RIGHT IS WRONG. Sad but that's the world that we live in, just look at the responses from people on this forum.
linus sulanki wrote: THESE DAYS WHAT IS WRONG IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS RIGHT IS WRONG. Sad but that's the world that we live in, just look at the responses from people on this forum.
no, its all subjective.
Keep to banging the skins, lad.
Anybody would think you've never heard an NO bootleg before. 
Don't even think about visting Australia then. You will be offended by almost everyone you meet. Advanced swearyness here. Just the way it is.
You're from new york for Christ sake! new york has given the world two phrases, "have a nice day" and "fuck you" only the second one is honest!
Jed Stephens wrote: You're from new york for Christ sake! new york has given the world two phrases, "have a nice day" and "fuck you" only the second one is honest!
Hey I am not like that but I do say "Have a nice day" to people
As it's "look back at the last twelve months" time of year, anyone remember this?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3333095/Scunthorpes-missing-S-on-footie-calendar.html
What about "When I was a very small boy, Michael Jackson played with me" and "They're all taking drugs with me" on True Faith (Reading 93) and "If it wasn't for your big pennis I'd be heavenly person today" on Blue Monday (Reading 98)? :D
Come on, Bernard never washed his mouth lads! 
Linus : You could maybe sell the second copy of the CD on ebay. I don't see the point in buying multiple copies anyway..
effect return wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote:
Nick King wrote: Barney says the word, "cunt"? Really? I must relisten to the CD again! :p
"C#$T"
Clit?
bit below the belt dont you think?
Aren't you being a bit precious? I'm all for respecting opinions but when you're an adult and posting on a music forum populated by adults (many of them grizzled Northerners) it just seems naive to complain about swear words and naive to think you won't get some light-hearted stick for it. If someone who gets emotional or overly-sensitive about swear words used (usually in jest) by someone else, and that is deemed ridiculous by the majority, I don't see it as the fault of the majority but something the guy with the problem needs to work on.
Ger Boy wrote:
Saw Bodycount in Bradford many years ago Ice (motherfuckin')T was as funny as he was was profane, a great evening, love him.
if they release the buenos aires show for some reason just don't buy it. he says wanker... and he points at phil :p
linus sulanki wrote: I know most people don't care and they are going to make fun of me but I was very upset that they didn't edit out the profanity that Bernard uses in the troxy album, especially after the perfect kiss, when he uses the C#$T word, that really upset me, I know they use profanity in interviews and I can let go of an occasional F word but the C#$T word really upset me, I wished that I hadn't bought 2 copies of the album, again I know most people don't care and think that there is NOTHING wrong in saying PROFANE and FILTHY things but I am not like that, I am sorry if I am being rude but I have to be honest.
get a fu*king grip
Waz wrote:
effect return wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote:
Nick King wrote: Barney says the word, "cunt"? Really? I must relisten to the CD again! :p
"C#$T"
Clit?
bit below the belt dont you think?
Aren't you being a bit precious? I'm all for respecting opinions but when you're an adult and posting on a music forum populated by adults (many of them grizzled Northerners) it just seems naive to complain about swear words and naive to think you won't get some light-hearted stick for it. If someone who gets emotional or overly-sensitive about swear words used (usually in jest) by someone else, and that is deemed ridiculous by the majority, I don't see it as the fault of the majority but something the guy with the problem needs to work on.
im actually upset that no one got my "below the belt" gag to be honest.
Burt Burterson wrote: im actually upset that no one got my "below the belt" gag to be honest.
I was on it..
im here all week.
If you don't like swearing you should stop listening to New Order live recordings or going to gigs.
It's not even the first time the word "cunt" is featured in an official New Order release. Have you seen "Pumped Full of Drugs" concert video before? Bernard says "Turn this light off, you cunt" around 3:33 in "Blue Monday".
linus sulanki wrote: I know most people don't care and they are going to make fun of me but I was very upset that they didn't edit out the profanity that Bernard uses in the troxy album, especially after the perfect kiss, when he uses the C#$T word, that really upset me, I know they use profanity in interviews and I can let go of an occasional F word but the C#$T word really upset me, I wished that I hadn't bought 2 copies of the album, again I know most people don't care and think that there is NOTHING wrong in saying PROFANE and FILTHY things but I am not like that, I am sorry if I am being rude but I have to be honest.
Would "pussy" have been a better choice?
I didn't expect Linus to react like this. 
Relax and enjoy the music! 
Is Linus truly offended, or is he just shocked at Bernard swearing? He's been on these forums for a while, and it's obvious that there are people here that use words like cunt and whatever else. Besides every female has a cunt, and sometimes people are called a cunt, or get accused of acting like one. That's life.
If the Troxy show was a New York gig and Linus was in the audience when Barney uttered the Cunty word after Perfect Kiss what would he have done? Cried? Vomited? Demanded money back? Left? Screamed "DISGUSTED!" at the stage?
This is the funniest thread I've read on NOOL in years 
I can't say I like Barney's choice of words much either, but as others have pointed out, it's nothing new.
funny...i've always thought (like Jarvo did) that Linus was Bernard ..... umm, maybe sales for Troxy CDs a bit slow?? :)
I don't see why adults should complain about the profanity, it is a bit precious. But then I don't think Bernard's comment was necessary either.
I was glad my children weren't in the room when I listened to the album for the first time, I am fairly certain I don't want either of them picking up that word at a young age.
Sid Vicious: "I've met the man on the street, and he's a c~nt"
This was as I remember a quote Tony Wilson used throw out sometimes in interviews,How he would laugh if he could read this thread..
cranelane wrote: Sid Vicious: "I've met the man on the street, and he's a c~nt"
This was as I remember a quote Tony Wilson used throw out sometimes in interviews,How he would laugh if he could read this thread..
Didn't Ian said "that word" to Tony because he didn't put them on the telly? 
Wow, that was one of my fave moments on the entire album. I thought the intersong repartee was pretty entertaining this time around.
Does the OP appreciate the area the band hail from, the punk era in general and the sort of self-deprecating humour over their history? This may help ready his constitution for this kind of stuff in future. There are some reasonable films that document all this, such as Control, 24 Hour Party People, Grant Gee's Joy Division, etc.
:\pimp3:
Big Mouth Julio wrote:
cranelane wrote: Sid Vicious: "I've met the man on the street, and he's a c~nt"
This was as I remember a quote Tony Wilson used throw out sometimes in interviews,How he would laugh if he could read this thread..
Didn't Ian said "that word" to Tony because he didn't put them on the telly?
No Julio, He called him a Bastard,
Best not listen to the Birmingham 84 boot then, they all have a go.
so why dont you piss off
Enough people stop dragging this dead horse around for no reason , I was just voicing my opinion and didn't want to make a big deal, no matter what people my opinion won't change , VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
Why anyone would wanna buy this is beyond me, this incarnation should be called Pension Fund, go and check out the bootlegs from 63 - 85 that WAS New Order 
linus sulanki wrote: Enough people stop dragging this dead horse around for no reason , I was just voicing my opinion and didn't want to make a big deal, no matter what people my opinion won't change , VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
You can't start a thread giving your opinion then complain that people don't agree and ask them to stop 
In a bit of fairness to Linus, in the US, the c-word is far more offensive than it seems to be in the UK, at least that's my impression.
linus sulanki wrote: VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
weird logic
Fuck off.
If you want to live in a sanitised, child-friendly, no-swearing world, go live in a padded cell and watch Pixar movies forever. If Bernard wants to use the word CUNT, he can. If he wants to sing "It's the last FUCKING time", he can. if he wants to call a song "I've Got A Cock The Size Of The M1", fine. I'd far rather live in his world, than one where all the rude words are bleeped out and our genitals replaced with shiny blue stars.
63? fuck me didn't know they started that early - i was only 1 year out of the c**t :-)
Tower Ballroom wrote: Why anyone would wanna buy this is beyond me, this incarnation should be called Pension Fund, go and check out the bootlegs from 63 - 85 that WAS New Order
ahh...the joys of the word CUNT!
I've got an English friend that now lives in Denver, and she drops the C-word everywhere....
it's fucking hilarious....
mark reed wrote: Fuck off.
If you want to live in a sanitised, child-friendly, no-swearing world, go live in a padded cell and watch Pixar movies forever. If Bernard wants to use the word CUNT, he can. If he wants to sing "It's the last FUCKING time", he can. if he wants to call a song "I've Got A Cock The Size Of The M1", fine. I'd far rather live in his world, than one where all the rude words are bleeped out and our genitals replaced with shiny blue stars.
Thank You for being so kind, Mark
Don't worry I still think your remixes are still great especially the Sink or Swim and TOF ones
Burt Burterson wrote:
NotAMod wrote: He's not Mark Reeder, he's Mark Reed
you silly c___, linus.
He's not a c_nt, he lacks the warmth and depth!
mark reed wrote: I'd far rather live in his world, than one where all the rude words are bleeped out and our genitals replaced with shiny blue stars.
Well fucking said! 
Yep, I'm not the one who did the remixes. Still. Could be worse.... I could be Jack Smith (which is statistically the most common name given in the UK in 2010).
NotAMod wrote: Aye but you started a thread on it, you see.
Quite, and besides, Bernard was probably cunted when he said what he said!
Nick King wrote:
NotAMod wrote: Aye but you started a thread on it, you see.
Quite, and besides, Bernard was probably cunted when he said what he said!
Whereas Phil was wankered 
Hans Franz wrote: In a bit of fairness to Linus, in the US, the c-word is far more offensive than it seems to be in the UK, at least that's my impression.
May be I'm hardened to foul language, I'm originally from Lytham St.Anne's which while being widely regarded as posh, was once nominated the most foul mouthed place in England, most likely due to the fact that when you say you're from Lytham St. Anne's people go "OOOHH Lytham St. Arrrne's" which causes the retort "Fuck off you cunt!"
Hans Franz wrote: In a bit of fairness to Linus, in the US, the c-word is far more offensive than it seems to be in the UK, at least that's my impression.
Well I've seen a lot of American bongo films, and the women in them say it all the time...
linus sulanki wrote: Enough people stop dragging this dead horse around for no reason , I was just voicing my opinion and didn't want to make a big deal, no matter what people my opinion won't change , VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
You may not believe this but I don't see a problem with swearing in some situations (such as on this board) but I know when I shouldn't use them.
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
weird logic
Yes it's strange logic.
Linus....you know why you don't like that word.
It's cos yer a cunt.
New Order swear better than any other band, it's one of their more endearing and enduring features.
If you do not like it, might I suggest you listen to fucking Jedward on your way to getfuckedville.
leather_girl wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
weird logic
Yes it's strange logic.
OK.. its a big swear word over here. Allegedly from middle English it was first used in written language in 1230, when a street in London was named Gropecunt Lane. I.e. 300 years before we gave the US our language to use freely, and corrupt, and most annoyingly remove 'u's from words such as 'honour'.
Fast forward. New Order are a band from the North of England, regularly dropping the word into their live performances for three decades. If you buy a live recording of them recorded by Brits in their own country, then don't fucking expect people to remove words your sensitive arse (ass) cannot handle.
You picked the wrong band, linus.
Doctor? wrote: Linus....you know why you don't like that word.
It's cos yer a cunt.
New Order swear better than any other band, it's one of their more endearing and enduring features.
If you do not like it, might I suggest you listen to fucking Jedward on your way to getfuckedville.
Incidentally, Gropecunt Lane was in a medieval red light district within a stone's throw of the Troxy, and was named.. well what it says on the tin.
AND it's a better and less sexist term for the ladygarden than "vagina" which basically means "somewhere to put a cock".
Doctor? wrote: AND it's a better and less sexist term for the ladygarden than "vagina" which basically means "somewhere to put a cock".
There's actually another thread on that subject elsewhere, started in hono(u)r of linus.
leather_girl wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
weird logic
Yes it's strange logic.
The DVD Pumped full of drugs is full of swearing even the C@#t word numerous times. The only time I am aware of any New Order live material being edited was 'True faith' from Glastonbury, when Barney made the Michael Jackson comment.
I don't think they are going to start editing things out now. New Order live, has always been New Order live, lots of mistakes, swearing, equipment malfunctions, abuse at the audience etc etc.
If you're seriously upset and don't want one of your copies, I'll have it. They sent me a copy without Disc 1. Cunts.
The only thing that makes even less sense than objecting to cunt being uttered in a rock'n'roll live show/pissed up sense is going on to object to people commenting on that opinion, even though you've posted for all to see on a public discussion board in the first place.
My brain literally capsized at that "logic".
I think a stern letter to Points Of View is in order:
Burt Burterson wrote:
leather_girl wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
weird logic
Yes it's strange logic.
OK.. its a big swear word over here. Allegedly from middle English it was first used in written language in 1230, when a street in London was named Gropecunt Lane. I.e. 300 years before we gave the US our language to use freely, and corrupt, and most annoyingly remove 'u's from words such as 'honour'.
Fast forward. New Order are a band from the North of England, regularly dropping the word into their live performances for three decades. If you buy a live recording of them recorded by Brits in their own country, then don't fucking expect people to remove words your sensitive arse (ass) cannot handle.
You picked the wrong band, linus.
Burt, your such a silly fuck aren’t you? Your language? You mean the language that the German settlers and Norman invaders gave you. You know, those of you who reside in England and speak English. English is a West Germanic Language, brought to your country from Germany. *Your* language changed further in 1066 A.D. when King Harold was routed at Hastings by William of Normandy. William and his marry band of gents spoke Old Norman, hence, a large proportion of modern English comes directly from the Normans, and the Germans before them. English is very much a melting pot of languages, and very little of which originally derive from England itself. Even the name England comes from the name of a Germanic Tribe that settled there in the early middles ages.
You thought the original inhabits of England, before the Romans invaded, spoke English? Oh you did! Hehehehehe
So sick of your online bulling bullshit. This site really is serious business for you, yeah? Is it really that big of a deal that linus had a problem with the word cunt? Your language, oh that’s rich!
Darkman wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
leather_girl wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
weird logic
Yes it's strange logic.
OK.. its a big swear word over here. Allegedly from middle English it was first used in written language in 1230, when a street in London was named Gropecunt Lane. I.e. 300 years before we gave the US our language to use freely, and corrupt, and most annoyingly remove 'u's from words such as 'honour'.
Fast forward. New Order are a band from the North of England, regularly dropping the word into their live performances for three decades. If you buy a live recording of them recorded by Brits in their own country, then don't fucking expect people to remove words your sensitive arse (ass) cannot handle.
You picked the wrong band, linus.
Burt, your such a silly fuck aren’t you? Your language? You mean the language that the German settlers and Norman invaders gave you. You know, those of you who reside in England and speak English. English is a West Germanic Language, brought to your country from Germany. *Your* language changed further in 1066 A.D. when King Harold was routed at Hastings by William of Normandy. William and his marry band of gents spoke Old Norman, hence, a large proportion of modern English comes directly from the Normans, and the Germans before them. English is very much a melting pot of languages, and very little of which originally derive from England itself. Even the name England comes from the name of a Germanic Tribe that settled there in the early middles ages.
You thought the original inhabits of England, before the Romans invaded, spoke English? Oh you did! Hehehehehe
So sick of your online bulling bullshit. This site really is serious business for you, yeah? Is it really that big of a deal that linus had a problem with the word cunt? Your language, oh that’s rich!
Leave Burt alone you boring cunt. :D
Darkman wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
leather_girl wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: VULGAR and PROFANE language is not acceptable in my opinion, if it acceptable to you then you have no problem saying it in front of your parents or kids.
weird logic
Yes it's strange logic.
OK.. its a big swear word over here. Allegedly from middle English it was first used in written language in 1230, when a street in London was named Gropecunt Lane. I.e. 300 years before we gave the US our language to use freely, and corrupt, and most annoyingly remove 'u's from words such as 'honour'.
Fast forward. New Order are a band from the North of England, regularly dropping the word into their live performances for three decades. If you buy a live recording of them recorded by Brits in their own country, then don't fucking expect people to remove words your sensitive arse (ass) cannot handle.
You picked the wrong band, linus.
Burt, your such a silly fuck aren’t you? Your language? You mean the language that the German settlers and Norman invaders gave you. You know, those of you who reside in England and speak English. English is a West Germanic Language, brought to your country from Germany. *Your* language changed further in 1066 A.D. when King Harold was routed at Hastings by William of Normandy. William and his marry band of gents spoke Old Norman, hence, a large proportion of modern English comes directly from the Normans, and the Germans before them. English is very much a melting pot of languages, and very little of which originally derive from England itself. Even the name England comes from the name of a Germanic Tribe that settled there in the early middles ages.
Thanks for the history lesson. I used to be able to actually speak Middle English and it's derived from there which actually spans your gimpy timeline.
Darkman wrote:
You thought the original inhabits of England, before the Romans invaded, spoke English? Oh you did! Hehehehehe
Are you really that much of a dickhead?
Darkman wrote:
So sick of your online bulling bullshit. This site really is serious business for you, yeah? Is it really that big of a deal that linus had a problem with the word cunt? Your language, oh that’s rich!
Really... once again singling me out, you spazzy troll. It's no big deal for me, it's a big deal for linus. For all the reasons posted for and against by me and many others.
Now go fuck off back to your pre-1981 dark cave, in hicksville. People like you put the 'cunt' in 'country'.
Darkman, fuck off to JD Central or wherever. Don't let the 'door' hit you as you leave here.
Insert high-pitched nasally voice “Leave Burt alone you boring cunt.”…lmfao.. Rorschach is your tongue that far up Burt’s ass tossing that salad? Something strange is going on between you two. Two Words: Backdoor Jousters.
Now go fuck off back to your pre-1981 dark cave, in hicksville. People like you put the 'cunt' in 'country'. Wow Burt, that was pure poetry! Why didn’t I think of me putting the cunt in country. I’m just blown away with how witty you are. The old cunt in country comeback, damn how can I respond to that? I knew I shouldn’t of left my A-Game in the shop before locking horns with you. Fuck!
Leathergirl, does it really rub you that raw, that I gave Burt a history lesson. So very raw. Or is it that I don’t follow the mob mentality around here. I guess if I would of fucked with Linus everything would have been gravy. What is Burt the fearless leader around this shithole?
Bernard also managed to swear live on the Rock Around The Clock broadcast where he managed to get in "Te;; me what the fuck we should do" in Blue Monday and that was being broadcast live on BBC2 as well as Radio1. But am I bothered nope.
I wonder... if probably one of the main reason Linus got interested in New Order in the first place were that he perceived New Order to be "clean", with little sex or naughty words?
I do seem to remember him being very negative towards all rap. I think he also complained about the "playing with my pleasure zone" line in Perfect Kiss.
All this thread needs now is a bit of Team Hooky vs Team Barney aggro, presumably featuring some c-word action, descending rapidly into personal abuse and everyone getting jolly well offended...
As an aside, do you think people with a lisp refer to the c-word as See-You-Next-Thursday? 
Snorri xxx
The funny thing is that I bet you Steve probably read this and He and Gillian probably had a good laugh during their mid afternoon tea break or a drive back from the shopping center or something.
Darkman wrote: Insert high-pitched nasally voice “Leave Burt alone you boring cunt.”…lmfao.. Rorschach is your tongue that far up Burt’s ass tossing that salad? Something strange is going on between you two. Two Words: Backdoor Jousters.
That's your best shot? A homophobic reference?
If you weren't such a cunt, I'd pity you.
Rorschach wrote:
Darkman wrote: Insert high-pitched nasally voice “Leave Burt alone you boring cunt.”…lmfao.. Rorschach is your tongue that far up Burt’s ass tossing that salad? Something strange is going on between you two. Two Words: Backdoor Jousters.
That's your best shot? A homophobic reference?
If you weren't such a cunt, I'd pity you.
Agreed, poor stuff, and not the sort of thing welcome on these boards. I'd like to hear his opinions on what the thread is actually about.
Dear Burt,
In the past I may have agreed with some of the things you have posted on NOOL. I just wanted to make it clear that this in no way means that I fancy you, want to have sex with you or indeed am attracted to any NOOLer whose opinion I share. Unless, of course, you are female.... And fit... And aren't easily offended...
Yours platonically,
Snorri
PS Have left the kisses off in case anyone gets the wrong idea...
Snorrimon wrote: Unless, of course, you are female.... And fit... And aren't easily offended...
That's spot on...
This thread is really crying out for the return of Frads.
Burt Burterson wrote:
Snorrimon wrote: Unless, of course, you are female.... And fit... And aren't easily offended...
That's spot on...
This thread is really crying out for the return of Frads.
The voice of reason...
Snorri xxx
Snorrimon wrote:
Burt Burterson wrote:
Snorrimon wrote: Unless, of course, you are female.... And fit... And aren't easily offended...
That's spot on...
This thread is really crying out for the return of Frads.
The voice of reason...
Snorri xxx
You can't be thread of the year without the mighty one being involved?
Snorrimon wrote: All this thread needs now is a bit of Team Hooky vs Team Barney aggro, presumably featuring some c-word action, descending rapidly into personal abuse and everyone getting jolly well offended...
As an aside, do you think people with a lisp refer to the c-word as See-You-Next-Thursday?
Snorri xxx
if you fucking cunts don't all agree that it ain't New order without Hooky...I'll make sure that none of you get cunted for New Years Eve....
will that suffice?
Snorrimon wrote: All this thread needs now is a bit of Team Hooky vs Team Barney aggro, presumably featuring some c-word action, descending rapidly into personal abuse and everyone getting jolly well offended...
xxx
Jed Stephens wrote:
Snorrimon wrote: All this thread needs now is a bit of Team Hooky vs Team Barney aggro, presumably featuring some c-word action, descending rapidly into personal abuse and everyone getting jolly well offended...
xxx
The cunt word is totally overrated, isn't it? I've got a cock and you have a cunt. So if the most offensive thing in the english language you can say, relates to the female anatomy, it's a bit sad. If you do something wrong, and someone laughs and calls you a cock, no-one thinks anything about it, but if you were called a cunt, then it's different, when it really shouldn't be.
If someone says you eat maggots out of a festering sheeps arse, isn't that worse than being called a cunt?
condemnation wrote:
If someone says you eat maggots out of a festering sheeps arse, isn't that worse than being called a cunt?
I think Darkman eats maggots out of a festering sheeps arse, don't he?
I'm thrilled that we're finally getting to discuss the finer points of the English language on NOOL. It's something I'm very interested in and feel quite strongly about.
Anyway, to expand the topic; does anyone else use 'cunt' as a phrasal verb? I think it's probably unique to us in the West of Scotland. eg
Q. Did you manage to get the phone number of that fetching young lady?
A. No, I got pished and cunted it right up.
Similarly, the word 'cunt' is very often used as term of endearment round these parts or as a non-specific signifier. One can be a 'good cunt' meaning a thoroughly all-round decent chap. Or one may make an observation that 'there's hardly any cunt in the place' meaning that the venue/location in question isn't particularly busy/well attended. Again, two uses of the word unique to our little pocket of the UK.
GlasVegas wrote: Similarly, the word 'cunt' is very often used as term of endearment round these parts or as a non-specific signifier. One can be a 'good cunt' meaning a thoroughly all-round decent chap. Or one may make an observation that 'there's hardly any cunt in the place' meaning that the venue/location in question isn't particularly busy/well attended. Again, two uses of the word unique to our little pocket of the UK.
All used in the exactly same manner darn sarf too.
Cunting something up, no cunt in the place, etc. And also, of course, used as a term of endearment.
El Jarvo wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Similarly, the word 'cunt' is very often used as term of endearment round these parts or as a non-specific signifier. One can be a 'good cunt' meaning a thoroughly all-round decent chap. Or one may make an observation that 'there's hardly any cunt in the place' meaning that the venue/location in question isn't particularly busy/well attended. Again, two uses of the word unique to our little pocket of the UK.
All used in the exactly same manner darn sarf too.
Cunting something up, no cunt in the place, etc. And also, of course, used as a term of endearment.
See? This is what I'm talking about! Learning stuff!!! Thread of the year indeed. I've never heard it used outwith my own neck of the woods. Glad it is though.
Not particularly nice language, and I'm guilty of using it far too often, but to be offended that a rock n' roll band haven't beeped the word out of a CD is silly.
I seem to recall that the word has some significance in radical feminism. It was an empowering word re-appropriated by nasty men down the centuries into a term of abuse. Or it might be the other way round. Or it originally meant something else all together. It's been a while since I read any Andrea Dworkin.
GlasVegas wrote:
El Jarvo wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Similarly, the word 'cunt' is very often used as term of endearment round these parts or as a non-specific signifier. One can be a 'good cunt' meaning a thoroughly all-round decent chap. Or one may make an observation that 'there's hardly any cunt in the place' meaning that the venue/location in question isn't particularly busy/well attended. Again, two uses of the word unique to our little pocket of the UK.
All used in the exactly same manner darn sarf too.
Cunting something up, no cunt in the place, etc. And also, of course, used as a term of endearment.
See? This is what I'm talking about! Learning stuff!!! Thread of the year indeed. I've never heard it used outwith my own neck of the woods. Glad it is though.
Not particularly nice language, and I'm guilty of using it far too often, but to be offended that a rock n' roll band haven't beeped the word out of a CD is silly.
I seem to recall that the word has some significance in radical feminism. It was an empowering word re-appropriated by nasty men down the centuries into a term of abuse. Or it might be the other way round. Or it originally meant something else all together. It's been a while since I read any Andrea Dworkin.
Interesting.
I'm so glad this thread is not dead (or closed) yet, so I can post another New Order video with the c-word on it.
Tony: "He's a musician which means he's a mean bastard." Bernard: "You cunt. You ruined my career."
I wouldn't take offence - it's nothing new. Not sure what the whole sentence was, but it's usually just a term of endearment in this context. In other contexts, i.e. the kid's birthday party etc... it may not go down so well.. so don't play it to the kids!
Girls don't cunt - Section 25
Girls don't cunt (2x) They they don't cunt Money don't cunt (2x) It doesn't cunt Money don't cunt It doesn't cunt
Talk don't cunt (2x) It doesn't cunt Cheap talk don't cunt It doesn't cunt Girls don't cunt Women don't cunt Money don't cunt Talk don't cunt Ambition don't cunt None of it cunts
It don't cunt It doesn't cunt (3x) None of it cunts (28x) It doesn't cunt None of it cunts (2x) It doesn't cunt None of it cunts (3x)
Think it was a scene in 24 Hour Party People though may have actually happened , Rob Gretton says to Tony Wilson "You know what your problem is, Tony? You don't know what you are"
Tony "Oh yeah, what am i then?"
Gretton "You're a cunt!"
Reading Lindsay Reade's book about Tony Wilson at the moment, he really was an utter cunt, wasn't he.
One of Salford Grammar School's toilet walls in 1967 bore the legend 'hunt the cunt'. The message was ambivalent as it was an all boys school but there was a German teacher called Hunt. I was not to know any of this and thought that cunt was just a word that rhymed with hunt so there was a somewhat embarrassed silence when I posed the question at home as to what exactly was a cunt. Back at school and sharing a Latin lesson with Barney and Hooky we learned about verbs such as lingus and nouns such as cunnus. What did the Romans ever do for us?
Common parlance around my friends, when things go enormously wrong is "It's cunted up the shitter."
a very small boy wrote: One of Salford Grammar School's toilet walls in 1967 bore the legend 'hunt the cunt'. The message was ambivalent as it was an all boys school but there was a German teacher called Hunt. I was not to know any of this and thought that cunt was just a word that rhymed with hunt so there was a somewhat embarrassed silence when I posed the question at home as to what exactly was a cunt. Back at school and sharing a Latin lesson with Barney and Hooky we learned about verbs such as lingus and nouns such as cunnus. What did the Romans ever do for us?
You went to school with Barney and Hooky????
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a very small boy wrote: One of Salford Grammar School's toilet walls in 1967 bore the legend 'hunt the cunt'. The message was ambivalent as it was an all boys school but there was a German teacher called Hunt. I was not to know any of this and thought that cunt was just a word that rhymed with hunt so there was a somewhat embarrassed silence when I posed the question at home as to what exactly was a cunt. Back at school and sharing a Latin lesson with Barney and Hooky we learned about verbs such as lingus and nouns such as cunnus. What did the Romans ever do for us?
You went to school with Barney and Hooky????
Thats right. I come back here every now and then to brag about it.
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a very small boy wrote: One of Salford Grammar School's toilet walls in 1967 bore the legend 'hunt the cunt'. The message was ambivalent as it was an all boys school but there was a German teacher called Hunt. I was not to know any of this and thought that cunt was just a word that rhymed with hunt so there was a somewhat embarrassed silence when I posed the question at home as to what exactly was a cunt. Back at school and sharing a Latin lesson with Barney and Hooky we learned about verbs such as lingus and nouns such as cunnus. What did the Romans ever do for us?
You went to school with Barney and Hooky????
Yeah. They were friends those days
El Jarvo wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Similarly, the word 'cunt' is very often used as term of endearment round these parts or as a non-specific signifier. One can be a 'good cunt' meaning a thoroughly all-round decent chap. Or one may make an observation that 'there's hardly any cunt in the place' meaning that the venue/location in question isn't particularly busy/well attended. Again, two uses of the word unique to our little pocket of the UK.
All used in the exactly same manner darn sarf too.
Cunting something up, no cunt in the place, etc. And also, of course, used as a term of endearment.
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