What is your favourite New Order compilation album?

My girlfriend today threw some very strong hints that she has bought me Total on CD, which would be the first proper New Order release I own since I sold my entire collection over 7 years ago. Though with her living in Ireland and me not flying out there to receive my gift till next week, it got me thinking... what is everybody's favourite NO compilation/greatest hits?

The one I'm choosing could be quite controversial, but I'm going for (the best of). Yes tracks were mislabeled, important stuff was left off, and I'm still not quite sure quite why Vanishing Point ended up on the UK version apart from the flimsy reason of it once being a theme tune to an almost-forgotten TV series. But that was THE album that got me properly into NO and related satellite bands, and started my love affair with proper long players such as Brotherhood and Technique. Yes I did love Substance aswell but something about (tbo) was so appealing, I don't think any other album got as much continual Walkman hammer as that. And I still reckon the version of Bizarre Love Triangle on there is the best of them all.

For the poll, I've included (the rest of) aswell, not a greatest hits obviously, but a compilation of sorts all the same. I didn't include Retro with it being a box-set rather than a true album release.

I've mentioned it many times before on this forum, but I don't mind stating it again.

My brother's Substance 2cassette full-release is what got me into New Order. I first remember hearing Shellshock on a 1987 Channel 4 American Football end credits TV programme, and later got into Blue Monday and, more significantly: the Confused Instrumental.

? the best of is a good compilation, well pieced together, but has too many rubbish, two-chord songs on it (Thieves Like Us, Run 2, Touched By The Hand Of God etc.).

Empress Touch wrote: I've mentioned it many times before on this forum, but I don't mind stating it again.

My brother's Substance 2cassette full-release is what got me into New Order. I first remember hearing Shellshock on a 1987 Channel 4 American Football end credits TV programme, and later got into Blue Monday and, more significantly: the Confused Instrumental.

? the best of is a good compilation, well pieced together, but has too many rubbish, two-chord songs on it (Thieves Like Us, Run 2, Touched By The Hand Of God etc.).

Can't say I'm very keen on Thieves Like Us, for me it's one of their weakest singles back in their glory years. Do like Run 2, though don't forget that was mislabeled on (tbo) and is in fact the bog-standard Run.

"Substance", of course. The first New Order album I ever heard. I was 11 at the time (1988).

But I'm very satisfied with "Total"... got a silver medal.

Empress Touch wrote: I've mentioned it many times before on this forum, but I don't mind stating it again.

My brother's Substance 2cassette full-release is what got me into New Order. I first remember hearing Shellshock on a 1987 Channel 4 American Football end credits TV programme, and later got into Blue Monday and, more significantly: the Confused Instrumental.

? the best of is a good compilation, well pieced together, but has too many rubbish, two-chord songs on it (Thieves Like Us, Run 2, Touched By The Hand Of God etc.).

I like the 2 chord songs. Neworder geta lot of milage out of them. Plus Run has 3 chords really (C,F and G)

"Vanishing Point" was on best of as No got Utah Saints and others to do some mixes for a potential remix / single in late 94. Changed their mind and did 1963 instead.

£50's Substance live

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: £50's Substance live

Did I miss that download? I thought he was putting it up, don't remember seeing it?

Thieves Like Us is the greatest NO single period.

mark reed wrote: "Vanishing Point" was on best of as No got Utah Saints and others to do some mixes for a potential remix / single in late 94. Changed their mind and did 1963 instead.

Are these mixes around now?

Thieves Like Us & Run are both fantastic tracks, don't see how anyone could dislike them. That's what's so great about New Order- the fact that they could make such unique brilliant music out of just a couple of chords. Might not satisfy musos or jazzheads but so what. Sometimes simplicity is beautiful.

condemnation wrote:

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: £50's Substance live

Did I miss that download? I thought he was putting it up, don't remember seeing it?

Ha ha! I did that as a podcast in '05 or '06, but it's no longer on my site. It was the running order of Substance, but pulled from various live sources and not a single show.

I have a recording of them performing Substance in order at a single gig, recorded September of '87 in Los Angeles. Tony Wilson introduces them, and they encore with Joy Division tracks (a rarity then). I'm going to post it at Recycle, but it requires some editing and I haven't gotten around to it.

50 Pound Note wrote:

condemnation wrote:

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: £50's Substance live

Did I miss that download? I thought he was putting it up, don't remember seeing it?

Ha ha! I did that as a podcast in '05 or '06, but it's no longer on my site. It was the running order of Substance, but pulled from various live sources and not a single show.

I have a recording of them performing Substance in order at a single gig, recorded September of '87 in Los Angeles. Tony Wilson introduces them, and they encore with Joy Division tracks (a rarity then). I'm going to post it at Recycle, but it requires some editing and I haven't gotten around to it.

I remember a while ago you mentioned you were going to put it up, was looking forward to hearing it. Hope one day you do.

Substance for me too, My sister bought it for me at the time on vinyl and it's still playable..

Speaking of downloads, I know this is dead cheeky but could anyone here let me have an mp3 of Loved It (The Other Track)? it's nowhere to be ripped on YouTube and Google is throwing up nothing.

I'll be your bestest friend and buy you some sweets

The remixes of Vanishing Point are not around : I remember asking one of the Utahs a decade ago at a gig, and that's what I was told. I'm not sure if they ever played the mix at a DJ set or anything like that and none of the mixes were ever captured if they were. I'm not sure the Utahs have those mixes anymore themselves.

mark reed wrote: The remixes of Vanishing Point are not around : I remember asking one of the Utahs a decade ago at a gig, and that's what I was told. I'm not sure if they ever played the mix at a DJ set or anything like that and none of the mixes were ever captured if they were. I'm not sure the Utahs have those mixes anymore themselves.

Shame that, the Utah Saints were pretty great.

Substance, partially for nostalgia. first one i owned and all that.

if Retro was an option, i would've gone with that.

RETRO

Substance the most popular? Never saw that coming.....

Like I said, Retro isn't an album, it's a box-set. And IMO, a mildly disappointing one at that.

Substance by a mile. Full 12" versions (well, bar the Perfect Kiss missing 40 seconds).

Hmmm Substance didn't have the original Temptation and Confusion, which was always a slight disappointment.

Substance .... for the reasons already noted.

I liked the Itunes original thing as well. Some cracking versions to BLT, WFTSC etc on there.

50 Pound Note wrote:

condemnation wrote:

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: £50's Substance live

Did I miss that download? I thought he was putting it up, don't remember seeing it?

Ha ha! I did that as a podcast in '05 or '06, but it's no longer on my site. It was the running order of Substance, but pulled from various live sources and not a single show.

I have a recording of them performing Substance in order at a single gig, recorded September of '87 in Los Angeles. Tony Wilson introduces them, and they encore with Joy Division tracks (a rarity then). I'm going to post it at Recycle, but it requires some editing and I haven't gotten around to it.

I will be looking forward to it then.

condemnation wrote:

50 Pound Note wrote:

condemnation wrote:

The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: £50's Substance live

Did I miss that download? I thought he was putting it up, don't remember seeing it?

Ha ha! I did that as a podcast in '05 or '06, but it's no longer on my site. It was the running order of Substance, but pulled from various live sources and not a single show.

I have a recording of them performing Substance in order at a single gig, recorded September of '87 in Los Angeles. Tony Wilson introduces them, and they encore with Joy Division tracks (a rarity then). I'm going to post it at Recycle, but it requires some editing and I haven't gotten around to it.

I will be looking forward to it then.

Just checked the concert browser, and it looks like its Irvine Meadows, Sept 12.1987, with an encore of Atmosphere, LWTUA and Sister Ray. Would love to hear it.

Substance 1987 for obvious reasons. I love the concept, the artwork, the chronological order, the inclusion of lesser known b sides, that it's on Factory - it's just a product of sheer class from start to finish.

What he said... Nothing more to add...

I guess Substance did it for me, because I played it sooooo much ... until a couple of years ago

By the way: The Perfect Kiss wasn't missing 40 seconds but 50 seconds on Substance. There were more tracks which were cut from the original 12 inch length: Hurt, Subculture and Shellshock.

International 2 disc French Edition, simply because it has a "brighter" Temptation '87 on Disc 2, and has True Faith without the chorus glitch.