The venue was at least 25% empty. At least that gave me enough space to bop about on the front row.
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New Order - Vector Arena, Auckland, N.Z. 27/02/2012
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Conway wrote:
I wonder if Round & Round was in the set especially so Bernard could venomously deliver the lyrics "If you mess with me, I'll get rid of you"???
From the footage I have seen this line has been omitted and replaced with the later line "what is it you need that makes your heart bleed" though whether he just fluffed the lyrics I don't know.
LetItGo wrote: A belated and mixed review...
I fucking hate whiny, pretentious reviews like this. No surprises? I guess playing Round and Round for the first time in 20 years doesn't count?
This part especially pissed me off:
"The show reminded me of Kraftwerk's performance in 2008, where the band was anonymous and the visuals became a seamless part of the whole package. This was especially noticeable during 586. That visual anonymity added to my feeling that there was something missing. Tom Chapman has to fill a big pair of badass motorbike boots."
Hooky hasn't worn motorboots onstage in 20 years and the band are def not anonymous onstage.
Also, his comparison of Bernard to Ralf Hutter was idiotic.
Zachery Starkey wrote: This part especially pissed me off:
"The show reminded me of Kraftwerk's performance in 2008, where the band was anonymous and the visuals became a seamless part of the whole package. This was especially noticeable during 586. That visual anonymity added to my feeling that there was something missing. Tom Chapman has to fill a big pair of badass motorbike boots."
In fairness, I thought he actually had a valid point.
Those visuals do definitely detract from the band (a la KW), and 5-8-6 is particularly Kraftwerk'ish, right down to the Germanic-sounding vocoder.
And it's not beyond the realms of reason that New Order might well be Barney plus a newer New Order in 10 years time, all playing their laptops a la Hutter & Co. Who knew five years ago that the band could continue without Hooky at its helm?
El Jarvo wrote: newer New Order in 10 years time
So they won't be New Order Now anymore.
They'll be Newer New Order.
Or New Order Then.
El Jarvo wrote:
Zachery Starkey wrote: This part especially pissed me off:
"The show reminded me of Kraftwerk's performance in 2008, where the band was anonymous and the visuals became a seamless part of the whole package. This was especially noticeable during 586. That visual anonymity added to my feeling that there was something missing. Tom Chapman has to fill a big pair of badass motorbike boots."
In fairness, I thought he actually had a valid point.
Those visuals do definitely detract from the band (a la KW), and 5-8-6 is particularly Kraftwerk'ish, right down to the Germanic-sounding vocoder.
And it's not beyond the realms of reason that New Order might well be Barney plus a newer New Order in 10 years time, all playing their laptops a la Hutter & Co. Who knew five years ago that the band could continue without Hooky at its helm?
I don't think the visuals detract from the band at all, I like them and think they add to the atmosphere. Having seen NIN and Depeche Mode several times, I always liked the visual projections that added on to the live show. I think it works well for New Order's music and they are just as animate onstage as ever.
The Ralf Hutter comparison is not apt.
Bernard is the Florian Schneider of New Order. :)
El Jarvo wrote:
Zachery Starkey wrote: This part especially pissed me off:
"The show reminded me of Kraftwerk's performance in 2008, where the band was anonymous and the visuals became a seamless part of the whole package. This was especially noticeable during 586. That visual anonymity added to my feeling that there was something missing. Tom Chapman has to fill a big pair of badass motorbike boots."
In fairness, I thought he actually had a valid point.
Those visuals do definitely detract from the band (a la KW), and 5-8-6 is particularly Kraftwerk'ish, right down to the Germanic-sounding vocoder.
And it's not beyond the realms of reason that New Order might well be Barney plus a newer New Order in 10 years time, all playing their laptops a la Hutter & Co. Who knew five years ago that the band could continue without Hooky at its helm?
Now if only they would cover "We Are the Robots"! 
Zachery Starkey wrote: I don't think the visuals detract from the band at all, I like them and think they add to the atmosphere.
What are you basing your opinion on though?
Go to a gig and watch Barney in the shadow of a 60ft Jane Horrocks towering over him.
And the Hutter thing - picture an aged Barney in black, lacquering his hair down - they could almost be brothers. 
El Jarvo wrote:
Zachery Starkey wrote: I don't think the visuals detract from the band at all, I like them and think they add to the atmosphere.
What are you basing your opinion on though?
Go to a gig and watch Barney in the shadow of a 60ft Jane Horrocks towering over him.
And the Hutter thing - picture an aged Barney in black, lacquering his hair down - they could almost be brothers.
The 586 visuals looks like the 'numbers' visuals by the Kraftwerkers
