What now for New Order?

Nick King wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: I don't like Bernard Sumner as a person. But like Gillian and Steve. Oh, Phil too.

Have you actually met Bernard Sumner?😕

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3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen.

Big Mouth Julio wrote: 3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen.

Was just wondering how you'd come to the conclusion that you hated Bernard Sumner, then? 😕

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Nick King wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: 3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen.

Was just wondering how you'd come to the conclusion that you hated Bernard Sumner, then? 😕

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Nick, there's a large bridge between don't like and hate m8!

He had personal problems with Rob and Terry. The problem is that some things stay buried in the sand.

Debaser wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Anyone here worked with Bernard Sumner? So shut up!

He thinks he is the owner of the world. Gillian and Steve are working with him for only one reason, MONEY!!!

I went to see Hooky on Thursday night. The tickets weren't free. He thought he was king of the band. Surprised?

Think the one on the previous one was, Nobitz.

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Nick, there's a large bridge between don't like and hate m8!

He had personal problems with Rob and Terry. The problem is that some things stay buried in the sand.

My mistake (hate) - is the basis of the "don't like" bit come from interviews?

I mean, I don't like some of the choices that various members of New Order do and some of what they say in interviews, but it doesn't make me dislike them....

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NotAMod wrote: Julio, you rave undiluted, uninformed and questionable Hooky sycophancy regularly. That is my opinion as an individual.

However, as a moderator that doesn't come into consideration as I have not (yet) moderated a single post you have left.

You are free to post whatever bollocks you like in terms of how superior Hooky is to Bernard is so long as it's not libellous.

I have simply warned you not to tell other users of the forum "shut up" as you did when they present an opposing viewpoint.

Get a grip and calm down.

Yeah, "I've got a feeling". Nice title.

jed the shed wrote: I think they should get Stuart Price to produce their next album, he's done a good job with 586, it seems to me to be a good direction for them to go in, bt still keep a mix of the guitar based tracks too, I think it would be silly for them to try to keep the hooky bass sound they need to move on if they want to retain any credibility, and Hooky would never shut up about it too, as much as I love his playing he does go on!

Have you heard his PSB mix of Memory of the Future? He certainly would be a worthy producer for the new synth album they want to make.

(Still waiting for Lost Sirens call from Amazon.com/USA)

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

leather-girl wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

NotAMod wrote: I think you're probably wasting time trying to get sense out of his posts, Johnny

Respect, please!

Do not like your sarcastic jokes. Remember you are the MODERATOR, ok?

He didn't seem too sarcastic IMO.

OK it is yours, I respect but it is worse than sarcastic indeed. Nobody is the owner of the truth.

I admit sarcasm is difficult to read.

Well I guess anyone who gets off his/her fat arse and makes money can be accused of just being in it for the dough! Unless it's for charity, in which case they're accused of just doing it for the image. Back in '96 I read an interesting 'Select' article (does that make sense?) about the top ten indie breadheads, guys who are seen as a thorn in the side of the establishment but actually make wads of cash. Number One was those Pet Shop Men, which is odd as I've always seen them as super-commercial (not a criticism, just a fact!), with 16 million. And second was, that's right, New Order with 10 million. Not bad given their last record was 3 years before and a lot of people thought it was shit!

finally got to log on today without any password errors, cannot remember how many months its been, and been unable to comment. i have to say i hope new order self produce the album with assistance from a third party...eg stuart price. new orders best albums were done with gillian gilbert on board.....thats the truth.

new order do not sound the same without hooky we all know this...i was at the troxy gig and b,ham ballroom (rip) and tom just couldnt win as he is not hooky and is having to play his material, i have just watched the live in berlin gig and tom now is very comfortable in his role.

i think Julio is a good fella he just speaks his mind ,if a little abrupt at times....must be his south american blood.....lol.

i have never wanted to meet the band as i dont want to destroy ant perceptions i have ...plus im a bit shy....

and ding dong to leather girl (in a leslie phillips stylee..lol)

i havent been to see hooky and the light play but i just might as john robbs review of his movement/power c+lies live interpretation is very flattering......hhhmmmm

ps rocket mick could you please thank me for this post or i feel left out mr rocket is a neworderlegend

i think Julio is a good fella he just speaks his mind ,if a little abrupt at times....must be his south american blood..... Just cannot stop laughing Phil. What fookin' awesome conclusion you had lol

i have never wanted to meet the band as i dont want to destroy ant perceptions i have ...plus im a bit shy.... Don't waste your time with those lazy bastards!

and ding dong to leather girl (in a leslie phillips stylee..lol) Be careful with your words, ding dong during Sister Ray's cover by Joy Division means something different m8 lol

mr rocket is a neworderlegend... Yeah!!! And Shug knows a lot about this than all of us lol

Stuart Price's work rubs me the wrong way. I really wish they would work with either Brian Higgins or Richard X.

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen.

The thing is though, if everytime you meet the members of the band you tell them how great they are etc you are helping to further inflate their egos.

Cranelane wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen.

The thing is though, if everytime you meet the members of the band you tell them how great they are etc you are helping to further inflate their egos.

Imagine how Hooky feels when we call him Godbass! lol

As far as fans meeting them, it is not hard to imagine that Bernard or Peter might get annoyed after awhile with stupid questions and posing for cell phone photos... how much patience would you have posing for photos with strangers? Or fans getting something signed so they can sell it online. Seems like at least some people here have had good experiences meeting one or the other.

And yes, all of Peter, Steve, Gillian, and Bernard are profiting off of their past. They are allowed, they did the work in the past to be able to be at this point... it is what it is...

Big Mouth Julio wrote: I am not calling them mercenaries, ever!

You just did, my dear!

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

Nick King wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: I don't like Bernard Sumner as a person. But like Gillian and Steve. Oh, Phil too.

Have you actually met Bernard Sumner?😕

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3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen.

I don't see that. I live in the same village as both of them and they both seem very nice - happy to sign CD's, talk about books they are writing or new albums?

Re your comment about Gillian and Steve, Julio. They certainly don't look like they need any money - their house just like Hookys and Bernards is probably worth well over a million quid?

thanks mick you new order legend

What now? - A new album.

Ruined in a day wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: I am not calling them mercenaries, ever!

You just did, my dear!

I also work for money. Don't you? 😕

UpDownTurnAround wrote: What now? - A new album.

It would be called "The Other Electronic II"

surface wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

Nick King wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: I don't like Bernard Sumner as a person. But like Gillian and Steve. Oh, Phil too.

Have you actually met Bernard Sumner?😕

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3 times. I meant his and Hooky's EGOS are some of the worst I have ever seen.

I don't see that. I live in the same village as both of them and they both seem very nice - happy to sign CD's, talk about books they are writing or new albums?

Re your comment about Gillian and Steve, Julio. They certainly don't look like they need any money - their house just like Hookys and Bernards is probably worth well over a million quid?

I did not mean related to their fans but between themselves!

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

UpDownTurnAround wrote: What now? - A new album.

It would be called "The Other Electronic II"

Unlikely. Just don't buy it if you don't like the idea of it (AS IF!)

UpDownTurnAround wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

UpDownTurnAround wrote: What now? - A new album.

It would be called "The Other Electronic II"

Unlikely. Just don't buy it if you don't like the idea of it (AS IF!)

Think it would sound good cause I enjoy both albums [eek2]

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

Ruined in a day wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: I am not calling them mercenaries, ever!

You just did, my dear!

I also work for money. Don't you? 😕

Yes, but I am not calling you prostitute.

Ruined in a day wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

Ruined in a day wrote:

Big Mouth Julio wrote: I am not calling them mercenaries, ever!

You just did, my dear!

I also work for money. Don't you? 😕

Yes, but I am not calling you prostitute.

Don't be radical