Spinner interview with Bernard

http://aol.com/music/blog/spinner/2013/01/22/new-order-bernard-sumner-peter-hook/

2 pairs of boxing gloves should sort this out once and for all.most new order fans have a good idea about the bands dynamics and we are all saddened by the continuous in fighting and bitching from both sides.

phil wrote: 2 pairs of boxing gloves should sort this out once and for all.most new order fans have a good idea about the bands dynamics and we are all saddened by the continuous in fighting and bitching from both sides.

He was just explaining his side of the story. I don't know how much to believe, but he seems to be happy with what he's doing with New Order right now.

phil wrote: 2 pairs of boxing gloves should sort this out once and for all.most new order fans have a good idea about the bands dynamics and we are all saddened by the continuous in fighting and bitching from both sides.

I'm most saddened that more of my hard-earned cash is going to lawyers and I feel genuinely sorry for New Order for having to put up with it. That said, their stage really does seem to be a happier place these days and long may that continue.

leather-girl wrote:

phil wrote: 2 pairs of boxing gloves should sort this out once and for all.most new order fans have a good idea about the bands dynamics and we are all saddened by the continuous in fighting and bitching from both sides.

He was just explaining his side of the story. I don't know how much to believe, but he seems to be happy with what he's doing with New Order right now.

Same as Hooky with The Light. Life goes on...

Without doubt the biggest pile of rubbish I've ever had the misfortune of reading. Unbelievable.

Big Mouth Julio wrote:

leather-girl wrote:

phil wrote: 2 pairs of boxing gloves should sort this out once and for all.most new order fans have a good idea about the bands dynamics and we are all saddened by the continuous in fighting and bitching from both sides.

He was just explaining his side of the story. I don't know how much to believe, but he seems to be happy with what he's doing with New Order right now.

Same as Hooky with The Light. Life goes on...

Yeah, life goes on, of course. 😎

Always nice to read Barney's take on things, very rational!

Jack wrote: Without doubt the biggest pile of rubbish I've ever had the misfortune of reading. Unbelievable.

Well, from an outside point of view, just judging from the myriads of interviews given over the last years, it sounds very reasonable what Bernard is saying...

Jack wrote: Without doubt the biggest pile of rubbish I've ever had the misfortune of reading. Unbelievable.

Down here we'll probably never know whats true and what isnt but what I would say is that Sumner always comes across better in these interviews than the old man does. And thats not me being partisan, I bought Hookys book whereas you probably got a free one .

Biginoil wrote: That said, their stage really does seem to be a happier place these days and long may that continue.

Which is a shame.

New Order were always at their best when they were truculent and arsey.

Good point, well made

Tim wrote: Bernard has learned how to do an interview. Even somewhat diplomatic. Tempting though it must be to respond to the bait!

Barney is a class act and keeps his cards close to his chest.

A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.

Here's the Guardian version of the article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jan/23/new-order-bernard-sumner-peter-hook?INTCMP=SRCH

😎

El Jarvo wrote:

Biginoil wrote: That said, their stage really does seem to be a happier place these days and long may that continue.

Which is a shame.

New Order were always at their best when they were truculent and arsey.

Exactly. Much preferred it when Barney used to tell the audience to fuck off or offer someone at the front out for a fight ( Brum Tower Ballroom 86 lol) , not all this "come on everybody, clap along"

NCP's Right Arm Man wrote:

Tim wrote: Bernard has learned how to do an interview. Even somewhat diplomatic. Tempting though it must be to respond to the bait!

Barney is a class act and keeps his cards close to his chest.

A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.

You could learn a lot from Barney, Michael. 👍 😄

They were better when arsey or fucked up (sometimes) or angry, but what they are now I think is just a bit worn down. Older. Barneys clearly had enough of the "old way", nowadays it's his way.

Just like Viz though, not as good as they used to be!

Thanks again wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

Biginoil wrote: That said, their stage really does seem to be a happier place these days and long may that continue.

Which is a shame.

New Order were always at their best when they were truculent and arsey.

Exactly. Much preferred it when Barney used to tell the audience to fuck off or offer someone at the front out for a fight ( Brum Tower Ballroom 86 lol) , not all this "come on everybody, clap along"

Or those like "turn the fooking light off me you cunt" VERY CLASSIC!

sutty wrote: They were better when arsey or fucked up (sometimes) or angry, but what they are now I think is just a bit worn down. Older. Barneys clearly had enough of the "old way", nowadays it's his way.

Just like Viz though, not as good as they used to be!

I'd rather see happy older men than grumpy older men.

leather-girl wrote:

sutty wrote: They were better when arsey or fucked up (sometimes) or angry, but what they are now I think is just a bit worn down. Older. Barneys clearly had enough of the "old way", nowadays it's his way.

Just like Viz though, not as good as they used to be!

I'd rather see happy older men than grumpy older men.

I'm happy

cant get aol link to work.

got it now. thanks

http://www.spinner.com/2013/01/22/new-order-bernard-sumner-peter-hook/

well if it wasn't for all the bickering we wouldn't have clips like this to enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftsURKnJl0I

blunt laser wrote: well if it wasn't for all the bickering we wouldn't have clips like this to enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftsURKnJl0I

wrong forum section i know but watched a few clips of the light playing PCL. pretty impressed with the band, all the sounds have seemingly been sampled from the original tracks so all good. found it amusing that they sampled the synth from cries and whispers and the loop isn't quite long enough. i tried to do the same ages ago and had exactly the same problem! sounds ok though. only letdown, obviously, are the vocals. Hookster does put his heart into it even if it doesn't really work on most of the PCL tracks. A shame they couldn't have got Pottsy, would have been improved, i think.

anyway sorry about that, back to the thread right?.......

I really wish (hope) that Peter will actually record and put out new music...I'd really like to hear what The Light is able to do beyond playing the older albums...

That being said all the bickering is making me wish that Celebrity Death Match was still running on MTV...

Factually, most of what Bernard says that has previously been published by either party in interviews etc., seems correct. For the 'new' information I cannot say if it is true or not. I cannot imagine that Hooky will let this go without yet another interview by retort. he said, she said, etc.

markreed wrote: Factually, most of what Bernard says that has previously been published by either party in interviews etc., seems correct. For the 'new' information I cannot say if it is true or not. I cannot imagine that Hooky will let this go without yet another interview by retort. he said, she said, etc.

Absolutely Brian, i really wish The Light would do something new. I never thought they'd actually ever cover any NO songs. So now that PCL has been completed it seems likely that The Light will have to learn the rest of the NO back catalogue (including b-sides). I can see Republic happening after all. Vicious Circle live anyone? No, you're alright...