has anyone gotten tired of new order?

this thread is not an excuse to point out all the flaws in new order, but there must come a time where you listen to a band so much, that the very sound of them bores you and means nothing. that's when it's time for a break.

i'm at that point right now, and i wonder if anyone else has been there, or is currently at this point. cuz as much as adore new order, there's only so many times you can play them before you get sick of them. i've been listening to new order everyday for over a year...when was september 2001? yep, that long. i've been through 70% of their catelogue (JD and all other side projects...except for the other two...couldn't find them in the record store) in one year.

here here! i haven't listened to much of the Order lately (except in the shower before work when Sooner Than You Think and This Time of Night get played). However, i did buy a promo copy of the back to mine on CD today and have it on right now...doves just ended...it's good so far with the exception of the opening track. I love tons of different syles of music but nothing hits the spot quite like neworder.

Blastphemer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why I never....!

NO

Originally posted by The Hacienda must be (re)Built NO

My feelings, exactly.

I think what Barry Brownstain has mentioned above is the exact antithesis of what NO means to me. The sole reason I return to their music so often (technically, I never leave) is because they have never, ever bored me (re-mixes excluded).

Lots of music runs a close second to NO, possibly The Smiths if I was to pick out an example, and only NO retains equal amounts of interest on each and every play. Whereas The Smiths (used here as only an example) can become a little too much after an unspecified period of time.

That though, was only an example of my thoughts, and do not necessarily reflect any other people or persons view that may/may not post on this or any other (similar) website.

New Order has never gotten boring. I still listen to other music, but New Orders always been a mainstay.

Maybe they should have entitled their latest album:

'Gotten' Ready'

Originally posted by Huntsman I think what Barry Brownstain has mentioned above is the exact antithesis of what NO means to me. The sole reason I return to their music so often (technically, I never leave) is because they have never, ever bored me (re-mixes excluded).Lots of music runs a close second to NO, possibly The Smiths if I was to pick out an example, and only NO retains equal amounts of interest on each and every play. Whereas The Smiths (used here as only an example) can become a little too much after an unspecified period of time. That though, was only an example of my thoughts, and do not necessarily reflect any other people or persons view that may/may not post on this or any other (similar) website.

i hereby declare an agreeance.

Originally posted by Spotnick I didn't mean they bore me.. I meant after listening one month straight (or even more), I need to take a break and listen to something else, get back to it later.It's good for my sanity... and for the people in the car with me!!

Truth accepted.

I fear Brownstain is, however, genuinely tired of NO and may need a sebatacle rather than a car ride to acquire snacks before he can (if at all) continued his listening pleasure with the same gusto.

Originally posted by Huntsman That though, was only an example of my thoughts, and do not necessarily reflect any other people or persons view that may/may not post on this or any other (similar) website.

Did the previous two and a half thousand or so?

I'd have to check.

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by Spotnick> I didn't mean they bore me.. I meant after listening one month straight (or even more), I need to take a break and listen to something else, get back to it later.> > It's good for my sanity... and for the people in the car with me!!

Truth accepted.

I fear Brownstain is, however, genuinely tired of NO and may need a sebatacle rather than a car ride to acquire snacks before he can (if at all) continued his listening pleasure with the same gusto.

I don't think Skidmark has even got all the back catalogue yet........

Originally posted by Huntsman > > > Truth accepted.> > I fear Brownstain is, however, genuinely tired of NO and may need a sebatacle rather than a car ride to acquire snacks before he can (if at all) continued his listening pleasure with the same gusto.> >

Latest Huntmanism:

SEBATACLE: a sabatical during which you are allowed to eat as much treacle as you like.

Alternatively: The inability of Juan Veron to win possesion of the ball

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by Spotnick> I didn't mean they bore me.. I meant after listening one month straight (or even more), I need to take a break and listen to something else, get back to it later.> > It's good for my sanity... and for the people in the car with me!!

Truth accepted.

I fear Brownstain is, however, genuinely tired of NO and may need a sebatacle rather than a car ride to acquire snacks before he can (if at all) continued his listening pleasure with the same gusto.

HE? i've been here nearly a year and you think i'm a HE? see, couldn't trust name changes, they all forget who you are...especially when you name yourself after your favourite famale guitarist. snucker will be back very soon...

as for the sick of NO thing...i have to stress that i have been listening to those guys for one year straight! everday for at least an hour or two hours. on my walkman nearly eveyday. now, since i commute to university, i'm averaging 3 hours of NO on my walkman and an extra half hour at home. everytime someone asks me what i'm listening to, i say new order. it's so sickeningly frequent that my friends can guess what i'm listening to everyday. trust me, you don't know obsessive listening until you've done what i've done. i bought get ready on oct 20, 2001, and since then, i've been listening to them eveyday for nearly over an hour each day. before that it was only 15 minutes a day when i racked through my tape collection for NO songs and secretly "borrowing" the best of cd off friends. i don't know if that's really sad or what.

now, i'm slowly weening off of NO and i hope i won't go through withdrawl symptoms of hearing barney's voice in my head when there's no music playing.:( now off to listen to some interpol...

... I've said it again and I'll say it before - name changing confuses people. It's like the Confusion re-mixes, completely baffling.

Snucker! ... now I feel bad. Please accept my apologies. Now I know who you are my retort should be read as-directed to someone who is actually sick of listening to them, rather than to a long-time fan who is currently a little overly exposed by events and needs a minor tea break.

The real sizzler is this: I didn't ever realise you were a girl! ... so you see there's always a sunny side ... even when the eggs have been placed sunny side down.

... there's no defence for listening to Interpol though, absolute tap water (whoever they are).

Originally posted by Huntsman ... I've said it again and I'll say it before - name changing confuses people. It's like the Confusion re-mixes, completely baffling.Snucker! ... now I feel bad. Please accept my apologies. Now I know who you are my retort should be read as-directed to someone who is actually sick of listening to them, rather than to a long-time fan who is currently a little overly exposed by events and needs a minor tea break.The real sizzler is this:I didn't ever realise you were a girl! ... so you see there's always a sunny side ... even when the eggs have been placed sunny side down.... there's no defence for listening to Interpol though, absolute tap water (whoever they are).

i know! i get confused when people switch their names around too. but i thought that if i kept my avator and signature the same, people would know...oh well...

and i get that a lot, people don't realise i'm a girl...but my ramblings about how barney is good looking must have tipped some of you off...

you know, i now have a JD song running in my head...dunno the title cuz i can't be bothered with remembering titles.

Originally posted by Huntsman ..... there's no defence for listening to Interpol though, absolute tap water (whoever they are).

How about the defence that you are an international crime magnet and just keeping abreast of current developments, through the use of a cunningly disguised listening device, after someone had tipped you off that they were on your case?

They are the International Police by the way (and that isn't a tribute band).

If I start defending myself now I'll blow my cover.

And Snicker, did you ever consider I too might be a girl?

Actually, has anyone ever seen the Huntsman "in the flesh"? I mean, most of us have seen each other, some people have even met Jeffsy the Mad Mistic of Petrograd or whatever his current incarnation is. Erick East may or may not be Rocket Mick. But for all we know Huntsy could be a pringle fuelled Cyborg programmed by Nicos to churn out witticisms and keep the debate going.

Originally posted by Armand d´Hubert Actually, has anyone ever seen the Huntsman "in the flesh"? I mean, most of us have seen each other, some people have even met Jeffsy the Mad Mistic of Petrograd or whatever his current incarnation is. Erick East may or may not be Rocket Mick. But for all we know Huntsy could be a pringle fuelled Cyborg programmed by Nicos to churn out witticisms and keep the debate going.

Hehehe - Erick East is definitely not Ricket Mock !! Always had my doubts as to whether Huntsman and Patrick weren't in fact one and the same though.

Originally posted by OnlyOneKenObe©
Alternatively: The inability of Juan Veron to win possesion of the ball

There's always one:D Sometimes i have not listened to the ORDER for 6 months or so.Not cos i am bored but just that i get so much other stuff to listen to.This then tends to reinforce the FACT that JOY DIVISION and NEW ORDER are very special when i play them again.LOW LIFE .....THIEVES LIKE US (INST),VANISHING POINT,NOVELTY and LOVE WILL TEAR US APART. Then add a little TEMPTATION,mix with TECHNIQUE and you have a great CEREMONY.There are plenty of other great bands out there but none with the same holding power of NEW ORDER.My collection is very small though and i wish i had a bigger one!:D Don't answer that.But if i never heard BLUE MONDAY live again it would not bother me. Cheers Rocket Mick

Now that's interesting, and I can see the connection.

But no, I am one person. Could be a woman or bloke, it all depends on what brand of tea we have in.

Erik East ... now then, what happened to him (or her).

One day there was an almighty changing of names, a co-incidental quirk, and it is tricky to identify who is who after this point in time. New people, however, may find it easier - until they change their own name or names.

By the by, recently people re-marked I was Rocket Mick. Again, truth denied.

Information can be obtained about me and my life, but you'd need to visit a library.

Originally posted by OnlyOneKenObe©
Alternatively: The inability of Juan Veron to win possesion of the ball

There's always one:D Sometimes i have not listened to the ORDER for 6 months or so.Not cos i am bored but just that i get so much other stuff to listen to.This then tends to reinforce the FACT that JOY DIVISION and NEW ORDER are very special when i play them again.LOW LIFE .....THIEVES LIKE US (INST),VANISHING POINT,NOVELTY and LOVE WILL TEAR US APART. Then add a little TEMPTATION,mix with TECHNIQUE and you have a great CEREMONY.There are plenty of other great bands out there but none with the same holding power of NEW ORDER.My collection is very small though and i wish i had a bigger one!:D Don't answer that.But if i never heard BLUE MONDAY live again it would not bother me. Cheers Rocket Mick

Mick Rocker, have you picked up the re-done PSB albums?

I'm keen on the 'Please' gig and wondered if it was worth the notation?

Sick of New Order?....yeah, it happens occasionally, but the same could be said for any artists that you listen to constantly over a period of time, then take a breather from. I can't remember the last time I popped in a Bowie cd, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna sale off my meagre collection just because of it. Nothing wrong with it, just so long as you still like the artist (and that's your decision to make)

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Sick of New Order?....yeah, it happens occasionally, but the same could be said for any artists that you listen to constantly over a period of time, then take a breather from. I can't remember the last time I popped in a Bowie cd, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna sale off my meagre collection just because of it. Nothing wrong with it, just so long as you still like the artist (and that's your decision to make)

57 BOWIE CD's including some great rare stuff.Never been a fanatic about him and the prices are ridiculous but some great little items in the collection TABS I ONLY DANCING!:D

Originally posted by Ricket Mock > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> Sick of New Order?....yeah, it happens occasionally, but the same could be said for any artists that you listen to constantly over a period of time, then take a breather from. I can't remember the last time I popped in a Bowie cd, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna sale off my meagre collection just because of it. Nothing wrong with it, just so long as you still like the artist (and that's your decision to make)

57 BOWIE CD's including some great rare stuff.Never been a fanatic about him and the prices are ridiculous but some great little items in the collection TABS I ONLY DANCING!:D

As long as you don't encourage The LAUGHING GNOME!!!!!!

Never tired, but there are sometimes when I don't want to listen to JD/NO so I listen to something else. But JD?NO are always in regular rotation in my cd player, mp3 player, record player.

Originally posted by Paul Roy Never tired, but there are sometimes when I don't want to listen to JD/NO so I listen to something else. But JD?NO are always in regular rotation in my cd player, mp3 player, record player.

I havent gotten sick of NO, but then I dont get sick of any of my bands. I just take mini-vacations from them for about a day or so and then come back and make sweet love to them because I missed them.....but then maybe ive said too much

i keep remaking neworder compilations with different themes and different running orders so i get a different perspective. for example the disc i mailed Rocket titled "In Transition" has been redone 4 times now. I needed a disc with all the really good early material in good sequence.

Temptation - original Ceremony - original (slow) EGG Mesh Hurt Leave Me Alone

Basically everything up to 83 stopping just short of the Thieves 12". I also compiled an Instrumental/B-side/Remix CD with bits and bobs including Best and Marsh, Don't Do It, Happy One, Salvation Theme, Ruined ambient mix, Regret Slow n Low, Confusion Ambient mix etc...keeps it fresh.

I go in spurts (I know medical science can cure that, but stay on topic). I listen to a lot of New Order, then I hear something and I think "Wow, that is really cool" then I listen to someone else for six months... but I always return to my music roots - NO, JD, Cure, DM, PSB, OMD etc... that is the true measure of a band - not if they can top the charts of our hearts and minds for six months, it is about who do you go to when you really need something from your music. Well, the answer to that sure isn't Creed, Pearl Jam, POD, Apoptygma Berzerk, or anything like that...

Mr Streak

I just take mini-vacations from them for about a day or so and then come back and make sweet love to them because I missed them.....but then maybe ive said too much

Actually that's a pretty good way of putting it.

After all of this time, the answer is a NO.

Originally posted by OnlyOneKenObe©
> Originally posted by Huntsman> ..> ... there's no defence for listening to Interpol though, absolute tap water (whoever they are).

How about the defence that you are an international crime magnet and just keeping abreast of current developments, through the use of a cunningly disguised listening device, after someone had tipped you off that they were on your case?

They are the International Police by the way (and that isn't a tribute band).

don't be so quick to judge! interpol maybe my new musical obsession...i've already started to post on an interpol board. great new york city band.

Originally posted by Huntsman Mick Rocker,have you picked up the re-done PSB albums?

HUNTSMAN i have EVERY PET SHOP BOYS CD except for the REDONE "BEHAVIOUR".The quality of the artwork is superb but because i have some BOOTLEGS aswell from their stuff there is NOT much on any of the REDONE ones that i had not heard.Perhaps you would like to BORROW my COPY of PLEASE thus i break no COPYRIGHT.I want it back mind.:D

Originally posted by Ricket Mock > Originally posted by Huntsman> Mick Rocker,> have you picked up the re-done PSB albums?> >

HUNTSMAN i have EVERY PET SHOP BOYS CD except for the REDONE "BEHAVIOUR".The quality of the artwork is superb but because i have some BOOTLEGS aswell from their stuff there is NOT much on any of the REDONE ones that i had not heard.Perhaps you would like to BORROW my COPY of PLEASE thus i break no COPYRIGHT.I want it back mind.:D

Cheers for the offer Mock Duck but I think I might purchase a few PSB items. I was surprised to see the re-packaged 'Please' album and then noticed they'd re-packaged all of their general release albums. After closer inspection it appeared they'd re-mixed all of the songs on all of their albums ... I'm not the biggest fan of re-mixes but if they themselves have re-mixed their own songs I'm very very keen to hear the resulting material.

So the question is Duck Meat, you being a PSB fan of great esteem, do the boys enhance or dollop on their previous pride and joy? ... I would not like to hear the fabulous album 'Please sir, can I have some more mixes' if the fellas had soiled their own nests.

Was that what it was?

Never!

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by Ricket Mock > > > > Originally posted by Huntsman> > Mick Rocker,> > have you picked up the re-done PSB albums?> > > > >

HUNTSMAN i have EVERY PET SHOP BOYS CD except for the REDONE "BEHAVIOUR".The quality of the artwork is superb but because i have some BOOTLEGS aswell from their stuff there is NOT much on any of the REDONE ones that i had not heard.Perhaps you would like to BORROW my COPY of PLEASE thus i break no COPYRIGHT.I want it back mind.:D

Cheers for the offer Mock Duck but I think I might purchase a few PSB items. I was surprised to see the re-packaged 'Please' album and then noticed they'd re-packaged all of their general release albums. After closer inspection it appeared they'd re-mixed all of the songs on all of their albums ... I'm not the biggest fan of re-mixes but if they themselves have re-mixed their own songs I'm very very keen to hear the resulting material.

So the question is Duck Meat, you being a PSB fan of great esteem, do the boys enhance or dollop on their previous pride and joy? ... I would not like to hear the fabulous album 'Please sir, can I have some more mixes' if the fellas had soiled their own nests.

Was that what it was?

Some are tracks done at that time but never made the albums or a different take.I managed to get each double CD for £10 from MVC so this was good except when peeling off the £10 sticker it damaged one of the covers....all yellow one.....BISEXUAL...yes thats the one!:D But i have many sets of CDS that i MUST collect ALL.It is like that thing that people who need to wash their hands over and over.I used to do it with music.Being umemployed for 3 years STOPPED that!But now i am working again i feel the impulse to buy 27 copies of CONFUSION just so i don't get confused.Still be out of a job by the 31 st of OCTOBER.The same date i lost my last job.I put this down to my ex wife PENNY being a WITCH:D:D:D

I think, with all this talk about listening to JD/NO, I may just go home and pop in all four discs of H&S and Les Bains as it's been a while since I gave all those a good listen to. Thanks, snucker!

I have been a New Order fan for 20yrs......NEVER getting tired of their music.....I listen to them at least 3 times a week (a custom cd I have burned)....It still feels like the first time I ever heard them......

Ive got tired of collecting New Order Cds and Vinyl, who wants my collection? Some of it smells old, especially those old coloured sleeves of Procession they really 'pen and ink' something awful! Damned brown ones and light and dark blues, wot a pong!

Originally posted by vlad_nomad Ive got tired of collecting New Order Cds and Vinyl,who wants my collection? Some of it smells old, especially those old coloured sleeves of Procession they really 'pen and ink' something awful! Damned brown ones and light and dark blues, wot a pong!

No thanks but have you any OUT OF DATE cos i can revitalize it:D

i went through a period during a few years in the 90s where i hardly listened to NO at all. not that i was sick of them, i just really got into other stuff. then all of a sudden i 'discovered' them again. right now they're like bloody heroin! i can't see myself ever tiring of them though, maybe just going through 'phases' of hardcore listening, and then off for a while.

Much as I love New Order, there are two other electronic bands whose output I have greatly enjoyed over the past few years, namely Mouse On Mars and Stereolab. Both these bands seem to excel at gradually reinventing themselves with each new album they bring out now.

The problem with New Order is they're now seemingly at the mercy of their disinterested paymasters at Warner Brothers Ltd who insist of milking their back catalogue for every last penny that there is, and in so doing, fobbing off their most important consumers - their fans - by bringing out one shoddy compilation and "best of" after another, without giving any real care or thought into how these things are being packaged. That to me is just deplorable. And so, I have to say that this kind of blatant disregard for quality just leaves a nasty aftertaste in my mouth as far as consummation of my enjoyment of New Order these days is concerned.

The same thing happened - and is still happening to this day - with fellow Manc legends like The Smiths and The Stone Roses. There should be a new law set up against this kind of practice....

are you kidding by asking this question????

Seriously, i may not play them for a few days, but the Order has been a mainstay for many years, just do not get tired of their sound at all

Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes > Originally posted by Armand d´Hubert > Actually, has anyone ever seen the Huntsman "in the flesh"? I mean, most of us have seen each other, some people have even met Jeffsy the Mad Mistic of Petrograd or whatever his current incarnation is. Erick East may or may not be Rocket Mick. But for all we know Huntsy could be a pringle fuelled Cyborg programmed by Nicos to churn out witticisms and keep the debate going.

Hehehe - Erick East is definitely not Ricket Mock !! Always had my doubts as to whether Huntsman and Patrick weren't in fact one and the same though.

Well, it's not true. He's him and I'm me.