indiearchivist wrote:

negative1 wrote:

how is the album version an edit? i guess i haven't listened to it in a long time. maybe it was on vinyl? or different in the uk from the us version?

There's an instrumental segment between the second verse and second chorus that's in live versions and (well, half of it) in Spike's mix. I can only assume it was originally part of the song and that the album version was edited down to about 4:40 for various reasons? Not that many people would care anyway....

ok, i'll check it out.

will try to transfer the video version. that's interesting.

blog update:

please check on the blog for the first update to the quality check for series 1 - regret.

thanks.

later -1

well, we're moving along.

regret is done, and we'll have the promo edit added to it as a bonus, since jcp was kind enough to provide that.

we'll be checking all the ruined in a day mixes, and b-sides, so be sure to get those and check them out.

i also added a few more tracks for the future. the 'world (video)' version from dvd. sounds good.

and also the unreleased spooky (night tripper dub) mentioned here: http://forums.neworderonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=1749

check out the blog for all the updates and news.

later -1

indiearchivist wrote:

2 world (uk radio edit)                       3:58  cd, cs10 world (the price of love)(best of) (or us radio edit)                           3:39  v, cd, cs, ld 

These are the same thing. UK World timing is incorrect (3:58 is the Perfecto edit). There is another, arguably superior, UK radio edit ("Spike's mix") but it was only used in the video (with added sounds from waves, motorboat, bikes etc). I don't think I've ever heard a "clean" copy of that mix. In an ideal world, that would be on a "Republic" bonus disc if a 2CD release of that ever happens. Or even better, a full length mix. The album version is clearly an edit too.

ok, finally checked these out, and got the correct versions.

will be using the video version also.

thanks for the notes.

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Negative bloke, why am I getting emails about your "pet" project when this is nothing to do with me!?

Just for the record, I have absolutely nothing to do with this project, this isn't even my website! and I would not, do not and will not share either personally or on via various websites copyrighted material from the band or any of the side projects.(nor any other non NO material)

p.s negative bloke, you aren't doing yourself, others, nool and NoW any favours by doing this "pet" project, I would suggest that if you wish to continue then you ought to remove this thread and delete all the posts within,you and these posts ARE being monitored.

just thought I'd let you know.

God, is this STILL going on? How many years now? A psychologist's goldmine, with a soundtrack of cassingle-only Sly & Robbie RIAD dub edits

NotAMod wrote: An ironic thing for me is that even though I personally want nothing to do with the project more than 5 of the Regret scans in his "booklets" appear to have been scanned by my own fair hand when I contributed them to Discogs some years ago (!) so I guess I'm an involuntary "contributor" after all.

That's the problem with Discogs ally, anyone can "steal" pictures from there and use them for their own ends. Some people on the other hand actually ask for permission to use pictures that people have laboriously scanned and added information to the various pages on discogs. thanks again

Personally, I don't upload info or pics to discogs as it is far too time consuming. I do take my hat off to the people that do though.

As for protecting ones pictures, a code can be added to any pic on most sites (cant do it on Discogs as it is "public domain") but it is extremely time consuming and a right pain in the arse to be honest.

the second series is coming up. any suggestions would be welcome.

Recycle 2 - Series 2

Series 2

5 true faith 94 6 1963-94 7 lets go (salvation tracks)

For series 2, we have the following:------------------------------------now come to an in between era,where new order revisited a lotof their greatest hits.first up, true faith 94:=====================1 true faith-94 (us best of or radio mix/edit)  4:28  v, cd, cs 2 true faith-94 (perfecto radio edit)           4:05  cd3 true faith-94 (perfecto mix)                  6:23  v, cd4 true faith-94 (best of or 94 remix)           5:34  v, cd, cs, ld    5 true faith-94 (twa grim up north mix)         6:11  v, cd6 true faith-94 (sexy disco dub)                5:48  v7 true faith-94 (eschreamer edit)               4:41  cd8 true faith-94 (eschreamer dub)                7:47  v9 true faith-94 (eschreamer mix)                7:44  v,cd======================50minanother revisited singlewas 1963:======================1 1963 (95 arthur baker remix)                  5:05  cd2 1963 (94 arthur baker radio remix)            4:03  cd 3 1963-94                                       3:46  cd4 1963 (lionrock full throttle mix)             7:50  v, cd5 1963 (joe t. vanelli dubby mix)               7:13  v, cd6 1963 (joe t. vanelli light mix)               8:59  v7 1963 (lionrock M6 sunday morning mix)         6:25  v8 1963 (lionrock sparse'n'fast mix)             6:07  v=============================50 minuteslet's go, was not really a single,basically a promo..it came out during the time of the 'best of'release, and they decided to add vocals to it.but during that time that they worked on the original instrumental version, they came out with tracks from salvation:=====================================1 let's go (nothing for me)                     4:02 v, cd, cs2 let's go (salvation)                          3:42 v, cd, cs3 let's go (extract)                            2:01 cd4 Salvation Theme                               2:12 v,cd, cs 5 Touched by the Hand of God                    4:59 v,cd,cs6 Sputnik                                       2:28 v,cd,cs7 Skullcrusher                                  2:49 v,cd,cs8 Touched by the Hand of God (12" arthur baker) 7:59 cd9 touched by the hand of God (bias 2000)        6:46 cd  10 touched by the hand of God (razormaid)       6:42 v==============================42 minutes ============================================totals  : 27 songspromos  : 4formats : 6 vinyl, 21 cd============================================Time : 2 hour 20 minutes

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the world tracks for the 3rd part of series 1 is up.

the third single:===========================1 world (perfecto edit)                       3:58  cd, cs2 world (perfecto mix)                        7:33  v, cd, cs 3 world (sexy disco dub)                      5:56  v, cd, cs  4 world (the brothers in rhythm mix)          8:03  v, cd, cs  5 world (the brothers dubstrumental)          7:44  v, cd 6 world (world in action mix)                 5:51  v, cd, cs 7 world (pharmacy dub)                        7:06  v, cd8 world (the price of dub)                    6:48  v9 world (the price of love)(best of) (or us radio edit)                           3:39  v, cd, cs, ld 10 world (tony garcia radio edit)             3:28  cd 11 world (video)                              4:14  dvd=================================67 minutes

world (video) 4:14 is a new inclusion.

please check them out sometime this week.

we'll be going over spooky for the new year.

happy holidays everyone, and thanks for all the support.

later -1

some notes about the posted mix in world.

thanks to jcp, i was checking this track.

world (sexy disco dub) and comparing the vinyl to the cd track.

note: ———- world (sexy disco dub) 5:56 cd 126.9bpm world (sexy disco dub) 5:47 v 128.5bpm

when you match the vinyl bpm, it sounds the same as the cd version

the version i posted had the faster bpm (beats per minute). so i might change

that track to the cd version.

also, will be adding this track:

world (the brothers dubstrumental edit) 5:39

to the final set.

there may be further changes once i get more feedback.

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the spooky tracks for the 4th part of series 1 is up.

spooky, the 4th and final single:========================1 spooky (minimix or radio edit)       3:48  cd, cs, ld     2 spooky (magimix)                     6:55  v, cd, cs3 spooky (moulimix)                    5:49  v, cd, cs4 spooky (out of order mix)            6:19  v, cd 5 spooky (stadium mix)                 6:30  v, cd 6 spooky (neworder in heaven)          6:10  v, cd7 spooky (boo! dub mix)                4:56  v, cd 8 spooky (stadium instrumental)        6:32  v, cd9 spooky (night tripper mix)           7:02  v, cd10 spooky (night tripper dub)          6:35  cd===============================

track 10, the unreleased night tripper dub is a new addition to the list.

this closes out the first series, and we'll move onto series 2, with its 3parts.

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Thanks for pointing out Touched by the Hand of God (bias 2000), never heard it before but found it on Youtube. Youtube is a sort of database where you can search for things you are interested in. There was also a 'Phased and dazed' RIAD mix I had on 'NO The Remix', a bootleggy CD. It was, in the words of Oscar Wilde, fucking shit: just whooshed in and out of the original. Mind you, I'd shelled out for RIAD CD 2 so... While I'm here, does anyone know just what those Lionrock mixes of 1963 have in common with the original? I know I'm hardly on the cunting-edge of music, I just wanna know if there's anything going on in these 3 mixes apart from Lionrock's ego and London's bank account. Ho hum. The shite I bought back then in the name of 'completism'... PS I have a theory that Tracey Thorn from Everything But The Girl is the secret love-child of Steve and Gillian http://www.npr.org/2012/12/08/166734913/tracey-thorn-finds-joy-and-angst-in-christmas-songs

Michael Monkhouse wrote:

There was also a 'Phased and dazed' RIAD mix I had on 'NO The Remix', a bootleggy CD. It was, in the words of Oscar Wilde, fucking shit:

Yes very shit, I could have done the same mix using the EQ buttons on my audio device!!

Michael Monkhouse wrote:

While I'm here, does anyone know just what those Lionrock mixes of 1963 have in common with the original?

The same comment about BLT from TheRestOf...

Michael Monkhouse wrote:

While I'm here, does anyone know just what those Lionrock mixes of 1963 have in common with the original?

The same comment about BLT from TheRestOf...

That at least has one token line from the original! For Christmas I want peace, love and a bottle of Melanie C's wee.

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Thanks for pointing out Touched by the Hand of God (bias 2000), never heard it before but found it on Youtube.

Love that mix but only have an mp3 that cuts out rudely at 6.10. Not sure where it sources from - was it a compilation? Would love a copy of the full version if anyone could PM me :)

Recycle 2 - Series 2

Series 2

5 true faith 94 6 1963-94 7 lets go (salvation tracks)

For series 2, we have the following:

now come to an in between era,where new order revisited a lotof their greatest hits.first up, true faith 94:=====================1 true faith-94 (us best of or radio mix/edit)  4:28  v, cd, cs 2 true faith-94 (perfecto radio edit)        	4:05  cd3 true faith-94 (perfecto mix)             	6:23  v, cd4 true faith-94 (best of or 94 remix)        	5:34  v, cd, cs, ld    5 true faith-94 (twa grim up north mix)       	6:11  v, cd6 true faith-94 (sexy disco dub)            	5:48  v7 true faith-94 (eschreamer edit)          	4:41  cd8 true faith-94 (eschreamer dub)                7:47  v9 true faith-94 (eschreamer mix)                7:44  v,cd======================50min10  Bizarre Love Triangle-94 			3:54 cd11  Round & Round-94 				4:01 cd=======================58minanother revisited singlewas 1963:======================1 1963-95 (arthur baker remix)         	5:05 cd 2 1963-95 (arthur baker radio edit)     4:03 cd3 1963-94                              	3:46 cd4 1963 (lionrock full throttle mix) 	7:50  v, cd5 1963 (joe t. vanelli dubby mix)     	7:13  v, cd6 1963 (joe t. vanelli light mix)    	8:59  v7 1963 (lionrock M6 sunday morning mix) 6:25  v8 1963 (lionrock sparse'n'fast mix)    	6:07  v=============================49 minuteslet's go, was not really a single,basically a promo.. much later, they added vocals to it,and put it on the best of in the US.in the UK it was a b-side track tothe limited UK single of 1963 re-release.but during that time, they came out withtracks from salvation:=====================================1  let's go (nothing for me)           		3:55 v, cd, cs2  let's go (salvation)                       	3:42 v, cd, cs3  let's go (extract)                          	2:01 cd4  Salvation Theme                         	2:12 v,cd, cs 5  Touched by the Hand of God             	4:59 v,cd,cs6  Sputnik                                   	2:28 v,cd,cs7  Skullcrusher                                	2:49 v,cd,cs8  Touched by the Hand of God (12" version) 	7:59 cd9  touched by the hand of God (bias 2000)    	6:46 cd  10 touched by the hand of God (razormaid)       6:42 v11 salvation (demo)                             4:38 dig12 touched by the hand of God (demo)            4:58 dig13 lets go (demo)                               3:23 dig14 skullcrusher (demo)                          3:42 dig15 lets go (unreleased original 1985 vocal)     3:57 dig16 lets go (US best of non fade)                4:02 cd ==============================68 minutes - 1hr8min ============================================totals  : 35 songspromos  : 4demos   : 5formats : 6 vinyl============================================Time : 3 hours

later -1

"Lynn, that was a negative. And right now I need two positives "

" Why do you need two positives ?"

"Well, one to cancel out the negative and another .....dunno, just so I can say I've got a positive "

adding one more track to the third part, touched by the hand of God :

New Order - Touched By The Hand Of God(art of mix) 4:57 cd

from:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-911-CD2/release/2803941

it's a decent remix.

later -1

negative1 wrote: adding one more track to the third part, touched by the hand of God :

New Order - Touched By The Hand Of God(art of mix) 4:57 cd

from:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-911-CD2/release/2803941

it's a decent remix.

later -1

So you're including unofficial remixes now?

Johnny James wrote:

negative1 wrote: adding one more track to the third part, touched by the hand of God :

New Order - Touched By The Hand Of God(art of mix) 4:57 cd

from:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-911-CD2/release/2803941

it's a decent remix.

later -1

So you're including unofficial remixes now?

well, there's a few interesting ones that i am including, because they are hard to find.

and some are better than the official ones. i remember some razormaid mixes of subculture being on the first recycle. so dj mixes do have their place, just not ALL of them.

later -1

i have had several replies, asking to be added to the project, although it has been private since last november.

since we are starting on the second series, i will try to fit in all the new requests. we'll see how it goes. give it another couple of weeks, and then we'll open up the invites again.

thanks for the requests from those that haven't heard back. please do not keep asking about the status, as it fills up my inbox.

later -1

Can you contact me by email or pm?

I've sent negative1 an email, interesting sounding project!

negative1 wrote: Recycle 2 - Series 2

Series 2

5 true faith 94 6 1963-94 7 lets go (salvation tracks)

For series 2, we have the following:

now come to an in between era,where new order revisited a lotof their greatest hits.first up, true faith 94:=====================1 true faith-94 (us best of or radio mix/edit)  4:28  v, cd, cs 2 true faith-94 (perfecto radio edit)        	4:05  cd3 true faith-94 (perfecto mix)             	6:23  v, cd4 true faith-94 (best of or 94 remix)        	5:34  v, cd, cs, ld    5 true faith-94 (twa grim up north mix)       	6:11  v, cd6 true faith-94 (sexy disco dub)            	5:48  v7 true faith-94 (eschreamer edit)          	4:41  cd8 true faith-94 (eschreamer dub)                7:47  v9 true faith-94 (eschreamer mix)                7:44  v,cd======================50min10  Bizarre Love Triangle-94 			3:54 cd11  Round & Round-94 				4:01 cd=======================58minanother revisited singlewas 1963:======================1 1963-95 (arthur baker remix)         	5:05 cd 2 1963-95 (arthur baker radio edit)     4:03 cd3 1963-94                              	3:46 cd4 1963 (lionrock full throttle mix) 	7:50  v, cd5 1963 (joe t. vanelli dubby mix)     	7:13  v, cd6 1963 (joe t. vanelli light mix)    	8:59  v7 1963 (lionrock M6 sunday morning mix) 6:25  v8 1963 (lionrock sparse'n'fast mix)    	6:07  v=============================49 minuteslet's go, was not really a single,basically a promo.. much later, they added vocals to it,and put it on the best of in the US.in the UK it was a b-side track tothe limited UK single of 1963 re-release.but during that time, they came out withtracks from salvation:=====================================1  let's go (nothing for me)           		3:55 v, cd, cs2  let's go (salvation)                       	3:42 v, cd, cs3  let's go (extract)                          	2:01 cd4  Salvation Theme                         	2:12 v,cd, cs 5  Touched by the Hand of God             	4:59 v,cd,cs6  Sputnik                                   	2:28 v,cd,cs7  Skullcrusher                                	2:49 v,cd,cs8  Touched by the Hand of God (12" version) 	7:59 cd9  touched by the hand of God (bias 2000)    	6:46 cd  10 touched by the hand of God (razormaid)       6:42 v11 salvation (demo)                             4:38 dig12 touched by the hand of God (demo)            4:58 dig13 lets go (demo)                               3:23 dig14 skullcrusher (demo)                          3:42 dig15 lets go (unreleased original 1985 vocal)     3:57 dig16 lets go (US best of non fade)                4:02 cd ==============================68 minutes - 1hr8min ============================================totals  : 35 songspromos  : 4demos   : 5formats : 6 vinyl============================================Time : 3 hours

later -1

Have you got the True Faith 'What's the fucking point of remixes, mix'?

continuing on with the project, more previews have been posted:

in 1995 a greatest hits remix collection came out, and along with it, new mixes of blue monday.

========================================1 blue monday 95 (hardfloor radio edit)   	4:14 v, cd, cs2 blue monday 95 (plutone radio edit or 7")     3:47 cd  3 blue monday 95 (plutone mix)             	6:29 v, cd, cs  4 blue monday 95 (starwash mix)             	5:38 v, cd, cs5 blue monday 95 (hardfloor dub)             	8:16 cd6 blue monday 95 (hardfloor mix or vocal)     	8:34 v, cd, cs 7 blue monday 95 (manuela mix)               	7:29 v, cd, cs8 blue monday 95 (andrea mix)                 	8:26 v, cd, cs   9 blue monday 95 (brain mix or corleone mix)  	5:24 v, cd   10 blue monday 95 (hawtin mix)                	8:02 cd, cs11 blue monday 95 (plutone dub)             	4:46 v12 blue monday 95 (hardfloor remix edit)        6:16 cd   13 big fi vs new order - blue monday            3:46 v=================================74 minutes

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continuing on.

we have:

now for a mix of tracks that came out.. the full video 586 track, brutal from the beach soundtrack:

(also included are 2 dj mixes which are worth listening too).

=============================1 video 586 22:25 2 video 586 (or prime part 1) 6:50 3 video 586 (or prime part 2) 6:57 4 video 586 (or prime part 3) 13:29 5 586 (peel) 6:05 6 5-8-6 (peter black mix) 8:07 7 5-8-6 (peter black dub) 8:19 8 brutal inst (beach demo) 5:23 9 brutal (rollo eq 1 vox down) 4:44 10 brutal (rollo eq 2) 4:43 11 brutal (rollo eq 1 master) 4:44 12 brutal (monitor mix 9-99) 4:35 13 brutal (rollo monitor mix) 4:54 ============================

and we continue onto the last part of set 3,

which are the true faith 2001 remixes:

=====================================

in 2001, more mixes of true faith were released:

==============================================1 true faith 2001 (morel’s extra dub) 8:24 v, cd2 true faith 2001 (philip steir dub) 8:14 v, cd3 true faith 2001 (morel’s pink noise club mix) 8:50 v, cd4 true faith 2001 (philip steir re-order mix) 8:12 v, cd5 true faith 2001 (morel’s calling shifty dub) 7:22 v, cd6 true faith 2001 (morel’s pink noise remix edit) 4:32 ra, cd7 true faith 2001 (morel’s pink noise i’ve taken too much dub) 6:48 v, cd8 true faith 2001 (philip steir re-order remix edit) 5:45 ra, cd==================================61 minutes

moving onto set 4 next.

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continuing onto the latter 2 albums, with get ready..

the first single from get ready,was crystal:===================1 crystal (radio edit)                      		4:21  wma, cd, dvd2 crystal (Digweed & Muir Bedrock Radio Edit)  		4:15  cd, dvd3 crystal (Digweed & Muir Bedrock Remix)       		12:53 v, cd4 crystal (Digweed & Muir Bedrock Remix edit)           10:08 cd5 crystal (Digweed & Muir Bedrock Dub)         		10:36 v, cd6 crystal (Lee Coombs Remix)                  		8:44  v, cd7 crystal (Lee Coombs Dub)                    		7:04  v, cd8 crystal (John Creamer Stephane K Intro Mix)  		3:22  cd9 crystal (John Creamer Stephane K Main Mix edit) 	6:39  cd10 crystal (John Creamer & Stephane K Main Mix)   	11:25 v, cd============================================75min

there were some early mixes of crystal,and also some live tracks on the japanese release.==================================================1 crystal (12")                     		6:49 v2 crystal (demo)                             	7:21 cd3 Crystal (circumstance mix) [video]       	4:15 dvd 4 Behind Closed Doors                       	5:24 cdlive----5 True Faith [live]                        	5:40 cd6 Temptation [live]                          	7:27 cd7 Atmosphere [live]                            	4:17 cd8 Isolation [live]                           	3:01 cd9 Temptation 98 (Albert Square Manc 8 21 1998)  4:08 cdearly mixes-----10 crystal (corvin dalek pornoground mix)	7:20 v11 crystal (corvin dalek pornoground club mix)	6:37 v12 crystal (corvin dalek silcon sex mix 	10:19 v13 crystal (cybersecrecy shatterproof mix)	6:27 v==============================75min

a few more to go in this series, and then finish it off.

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ok, will add the new demo mix of crystal to this.

basically, all the tracks and series are done.

i haven't updated this post. but the blog had all the tracks in streaming.

will be finalizing the details over the next month or so.

later -1

i think it's kinda funny/odd that there was so much discouragement in the early pages of this depeche mode pretty much released this exact kind of thing officially a while back, including a real high amount of remixes with the original b-sides mixed in and whatnot for a round of "single boxes" and even though they were a bit pricey they were still pretty cool releases a compilation of all of those single releases versus tracking down however many cds, cassettes, vinyls, some of which were pressed maybe what, a hundred times? kind of an obvious supply and demand issue there, huh? in any case, sent you my application e-mail if those are in fact actually being accepted/looked at at the moment

here are the remaining partial tracklistings for the rest of the singles:

recycle 2 – series 4 – set 3 60mphmoving onto 60mph60mph was the 2nd single from the album:there were quite a few promo versions,and early versions of the songs fromthe early sessions.============================1 60 mph (radio edit) 3:37 cd, dvd2 60 mph (supermen lovers remix) 4:56 cd3 60 mph (video) 3:51 dvd4 Sabotage 4:48 cdpromos——-5 60 mph (david kahne mix 2) 4:43 cd6 60 mph (rollo monitor mix demo) 4:01 cd7 60 mph (steve osbourne monitor mix) 4:39 cd8 60 mph (original version) 4:05 cd9 crystal (steve osbourne monitor mix) 5:41 cd==============================40min

these were all posted as streaming tracks.

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