Box Set Tracklisting - song by song revealed — Forum Archive

25 Oct 2002, 08:31

Originally posted by Huntsman Sabre's cut and dry is monkey food.Fire is boss.Repeat until fade.

Fire is BOSS but could be dangerous with the impending FIREMAN SAMS strike.Sputnick has barred me from having a bonfire.:D Back on topic though just how can they do this to us.Should have made the box-set £40 and given us some great little rarities like the ones in HUNTSMAN'S loft.A CD full of flexis...well i have 3 now so it would have to be a CD SINGLE.But i had hoped for something to bolster this flagging collection so i will just have to make do with getting 23 CDs of D.BOWIE's GREATEST HITS.At least he gives the fans what they want...does he....NO! Rocket Mick

25 Oct 2002, 08:42

Maybe, they haven`t got that much to offer, a handful of rare mixes, a load of dodgy live performances[that we loved] and some studio stuff. That about sums it up :touthless:

25 Oct 2002, 08:44

Originally posted by fletcher_christian Maybe, they haven`t got that much to offer, a handful of rare mixes, a load of dodgy live performances[that we loved] and some studio stuff. That about sums it up :touthless:

did I say touthless?

:toothless:

25 Oct 2002, 08:45

Originally posted by fletcher_christian Maybe, they haven`t got that much to offer, a handful of rare mixes, a load of dodgy live performances[that we loved] and some studio stuff. That about sums it up :touthless:

30 years audio work = 10,000 alternative 'studio' outtakes of (I'd guess) every song.

Someone should be sorting this stuff out. The Best Of was released about 10 years ago, and was poor then. 2002 = The Best Of II with the same tracks ... what kind of box set is that? - I've never seen a box set that didn't contain 'rare' stuff. That's all we're asking.

Box set does not = The Best Of II.

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25 Oct 2002, 08:46

And let's remember we still have a "peace and love picture sleeve à la Beck" compilation coming. Best Of II is coming soon !

What's the point in a poinless boxset ?

Where is Recycle ?

25 Oct 2002, 08:53

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by fletcher_christian> Maybe, they haven`t got that much to offer, a handful of rare mixes, a load of dodgy live performances[that we loved] and some studio stuff. That about sums it up :touthless:

30 years audio work = 10,000 alternative 'studio' outtakes of (I'd guess) every song.

Someone should be sorting this stuff out. The Best Of was released about 10 years ago, and was poor then. 2002 = The Best Of II with the same tracks ... what kind of box set is that? - I've never seen a box set that didn't contain 'rare' stuff. That's all we're asking.

Box set does not = The Best Of II.

:hat:

They`re such perfectionists these days, just like the gigs, its all to to do with image, does this spell the end?

25 Oct 2002, 08:55

Originally posted by Huntsman Sabre's cut and dry is monkey food.Fire is boss.Repeat until fade.

If you play Fast 'n' Throb so loud that you think your head will expolde. You can begin to hear this mantra from between the grooves.

'Beat breaks down till my head explodes' 'Beat breaks down till my head explodes' 'Beat breaks down till my head explodes' 'Beat breaks down till my head explodes' 'Beat breaks down till my head explodes'

Only then will you have experienced Regret. I now have a headache.

25 Oct 2002, 09:03

Look mister. The day 'Regret' came out I was in the shop at 5 to 9 picking up the 12" ... I pegged it home and listened to the pickled egg 9 hundred times. And shit it was loud.

There's Regret, and there's Regret Fire Island.

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25 Oct 2002, 09:20

Ok don't say I didn't try and help :D

25 Oct 2002, 09:50

Originally posted by OnlyOneKenObe©
Ok don't say I didn't try and help :D

Your persistance is impressive, most impressive.

I will again seek out the championed Saber tiger effort and attempt to bond ... again.

If I recall a great gunslinger influence was in evidence however the drums sounded not unlike someone standing on bracken.

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25 Oct 2002, 10:04

They've done it again. Why do they never miss a chance of missing a chance. I am disgusted and furthermore I am not buying the stupidly named IV.

:\pissedoff:

:timetokill:

25 Oct 2002, 10:10

The live CD is not much diffferent to what I'd heard, but I also heard they were gonna put Temptation and YSF on it from the Cologne concert....so I'm a bit pissed off about that! It's not that bad, there's a lot of different stuff I'd have on it, and gutted not to see the evening sessions versions on here cos Slow Jam was magnificent....even though I have the CD, it woulda been nice to see it officialy recognised.... ach well, I'm reasonably happy:D

25 Oct 2002, 10:17

They should've included another disk, no. 5 (and still kept it entitled 'IV') with exclusive 30 sec. footage of Bernard taking a rumble at Hulstfred with his gunslinger jacket on.

Top notch.

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25 Oct 2002, 10:20

Originally posted by Armand d´Hubert They've done it again. Why do they never miss a chance of missing a chance. I am disgusted and furthermore I am not buying the stupidly named IV.

I really don't think it's necessarily aimed at the 'ardcore.

After all, this is a business. They need to shift units. And they still have to appeal to the general public.

I'll buy anything so they've already got my sale. Now they need to flog a few copies to the man in the street. And then hope he goes out and buys the rest of their back catalogue.

25 Oct 2002, 10:22

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Armand d´Hubert > They've done it again. Why do they never miss a chance of missing a chance. I am disgusted and furthermore I am not buying the stupidly named IV.

I really don't think it's necessarily aimed at the 'ardcore.

After all, this is a business. They need to shift units. And they still have to appeal to the general public.

I'll buy anything so they've already got my sale. Now they need to flog a few copies to the man in the street. And then hope he goes out and buys the rest of their back catalogue.

What casual fan is likely to buy a 4 CD set, unless it really does have a bargain price?

25 Oct 2002, 10:28

What is the "Original Version" of "Everything's Gone Green" please ??? And is the "Chemical Brothers Remix" of Here To Stay already available??? Is it the radio edit or what?

Help! :frown:

25 Oct 2002, 10:43

Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Armand d´Hubert > They've done it again. Why do they never miss a chance of missing a chance. I am disgusted and furthermore I am not buying the stupidly named IV.

I really don't think it's necessarily aimed at the 'ardcore.

After all, this is a business. They need to shift units. And they still have to appeal to the general public.

I'll buy anything so they've already got my sale. Now they need to flog a few copies to the man in the street. And then hope he goes out and buys the rest of their back catalogue.

What casual fan is likely to buy a 4 CD set, unless it really does have a bargain price?

As a business proposition IV is in my opinion fatally flawed. It gives too little to the hardcore fans and it is far too much for the innocent bystander at whom International is rightly aimed. It is nothing but another shot at milking New Order back catalogue with a cheap and cheerful product who "will do for now"

25 Oct 2002, 10:47

Originally posted by Marco&nbspPleil What is the "Original Version" of "Everything's Gone Green" please ??? And is the "Chemical Brothers Remix" of Here To Stay already available??? Is it the radio edit or what?Help!

The Chemical Brothers remix will be the 6 minute 50 version of the song and not the edited radio version....as fer EGG, this was brought up on the other site, one version was recorded in 81 fer the EP, the second version was done at a later date and can be found on Substance.....I may be wrong, but I think this is the events everyone decided on :lol:

25 Oct 2002, 10:58

Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Marco Pleil> What is the "Original Version" of "Everything's Gone Green" please ??? And is the "Chemical Brothers Remix" of Here To Stay already available??? Is it the radio edit or what?> > Help!

The Chemical Brothers remix will be the 6 minute 50 version of the song and not the edited radio version....as fer EGG, this was brought up on the other site, one version was recorded in 81 fer the EP, the second version was done at a later date and can be found on Substance.....I may be wrong, but I think this is the events everyone decided on :lol:

I don't recall a 6:50 version; wasn't the "longer" version about 5:00?

25 Oct 2002, 11:14

Yer probably right Patsy......I have no information at hand here at work :lol: Most probably getting mixed up with one of the other versions :nod:

25 Oct 2002, 11:17

Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Marco&nbspPleil> What is the "Original Version" of "Everything's Gone Green" please ??? And is the "Chemical Brothers Remix" of Here To Stay already available??? Is it the radio edit or what?> > Help!

The Chemical Brothers remix will be the 6 minute 50 version of the song and not the edited radio version....as fer EGG, this was brought up on the other site, one version was recorded in 81 fer the EP, the second version was done at a later date and can be found on Substance.....I may be wrong, but I think this is the events everyone decided on :lol:

You mean the "EGG"-version on the canadian 1982-EP ??? It's the same as the Substance-Version or am i completeley wrong?

25 Oct 2002, 11:20

This is news to me as well Marco. Surely USA mini-EP EGG is the same as Substitute?

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25 Oct 2002, 11:21

Originally posted by Marco&nbspPleil > Originally posted by ShugZV© > > > > Originally posted by Marco&nbspPleil> > What is the "Original Version" of "Everything's Gone Green" please ??? And is the "Chemical Brothers Remix" of Here To Stay already available??? Is it the radio edit or what?> > > > Help! >

The Chemical Brothers remix will be the 6 minute 50 version of the song and not the edited radio version....as fer EGG, this was brought up on the other site, one version was recorded in 81 fer the EP, the second version was done at a later date and can be found on Substance.....I may be wrong, but I think this is the events everyone decided on :lol:

You mean the "EGG"-version on the canadian 1982-EP ??? It's the same as the Substance-Version or am i completeley wrong?

I suggest you check WIM forum....some smart arse came up with the answer.....I thought I'd remembered it....I can't be arsed checking;)

25 Oct 2002, 11:41

Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by ShugZV© > > > The Chemical Brothers remix will be the 6 minute 50 version of the song and not the edited radio version....

I don't recall a 6:50 version; wasn't the "longer" version about 5:00?

There is the original "here to stay" which hasn't surfaced yet (and might never officially surface at all) - i think it clocks in at 6:50 and has the original "to rescue you and i'll set you rfree" vocal. it has also few to no guitars at all and is weaker. But isn't Here To Stay weak anyway...

25 Oct 2002, 11:51

Here To Stay is a superb track......thanks fer helping me oot with the 6,50 bit though;)

Gotta dash, finish work in 5 minutes......and it's straight back fer a wee party and a few alcoholic beverages:D

25 Oct 2002, 12:00

Originally posted by ShugZV©
Here To Stay is a superb track......thanks fer helping me oot with the 6,50 bit though;)Gotta dash, finish work in 5 minutes......and it's straight back fer a wee party and a few alcoholic beverages:D

I agree; HTS is very, very good.

Perhaps you were thinking of Such A Good Thing when you said "weak."

25 Oct 2002, 12:25

Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes Disc One: Hits (Miranda Sawyer) 1. Fine Time 2. Temptation 3. True Faith 4. The Perfect Kiss 5. Ceremony 6. Regret 7. Crystal 8. Bizarre Love Triangle 9. Confusion 10. Round & Round 11. Blue Monday 12. Brutal 13. Slow Jam 14. Everyone Everywhere Disc Two: Early Years (John McCready) 1. Elegia 2. In A Lonely Place 3. All Day Long 4. Your Silent Face 5. Sunrise 6. Broken Promise 7. Dreams Never End 8. Cries & Whispers 9. Chosen Time 10. Ecstasy 11. Sooner Than You Think 12. Leave Me Alone 13. Lonesome Tonight 14. Every Little Counts 15. Run Wild Disc Three: Mixes (Mike Pickering) 1. Confusion (Koma & Bones Mix With Bernard's New Vocal) 2. Paradise (Robert Ricic Mix) 3. Regret (Sabres Slow N Low Mix) 4. Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone Mix) 5. Shell Shock (John Robie Mix) 6. Fine Time (Steve 'Silk' Hurley Mix) 7. 1963 (Arthur Baker Mix) 8. Touched By The Hand Of God (Original Version) 9. Everything's Gone Green (Original Version) 10. Blue Monday (Jam & Spoon Manuela Mix) 11. World In Motion (Pickering/Parke Mix) 12. Here To Stay (Chemical Brothers Remix) 13. Crystal (Lee Coombs Remix) Disc four: Live (Bobby Gillespie) 1. Ceremony (Studio 54, Barcelona 7th July 1984) 2. Procession (Sunderland, 15th August 1984) 3. Everything's Gone Green (Tolworth Rec. Centre, Kingston, London 6th December 1985) 4. In A Lonely Place (Glastonbury Festival, 20th June 1981) 5. Age Of Consent (Spectrum Arena, Warrington, 1st March 1986) 6. This Time Of Night (Fulcrum Centre, Slough, 7th December 1985) 7. The Perfect Kiss (Fulcrum Centre, Slough, 7th December 1985) 8. Fine Time (Hoffman Estates, Chicago, 30th June 1989) 9. World (Starplex Amphitheatre, Dallas, 21 July 1983) 10. Regret (Reading Festival, 31st August 1993) 11. As It Is When It Was (Reading Festival) From HMV.co.uk

Slow jam.. oh god no!!!!

By the way, you can't pre-order it from HMV, just get info now.

25 Oct 2002, 12:38

Who knows, maybe they'll surprise us..

Like by putting the Elegia DEMO 20+ mins..

I doubt it, as it would take 1/4 of the CD, but well...

What's the point of releasing a box set if the collector, which is the person who is aimed by this, has everything?

I'm happy to see the Sabre remix on CD though.. I didn't manage to get the japanese release of Republic, so I don't have it on CD.. only MP3 and Sebastien's 12"..

But I still think the Recycle project must go on... we want a re-release of all the damn singles.. do it the Depeche Mode way, 4 box sets, or re-release each single on CD!!

25 Oct 2002, 12:39

Originally posted by ShugZV©
I suggest you check WIM forum....some smart arse came up with the answer.....I thought I'd remembered it....I can't be arsed checking;)

And you are a NOO moderator? :skeptic:

Hum...

25 Oct 2002, 12:47

Originally posted by ShugZV©
The live CD is not much diffferent to what I'd heard, but I also heard they were gonna put Temptation and YSF on it from the Cologne concert....so I'm a bit pissed off about that!:D

Dunno where you heard that Shug - wishful thinking on your part. They weren't included in the list of tracks we had.