Box Set Tracklisting - song by song revealed

Disc One: Hits (Miranda Sawyer)

1. Fine Time  
   

2. Temptation  
   

3. True Faith  
   

4. The Perfect Kiss  
   

5. Ceremony  
   

6. Regret  
   

7. Crystal  
   

8. Bizarre Love Triangle  
   

9. Confusion  
   

10. Round & Round  
    

11. Blue Monday  
    

12. Brutal  
    

13. Slow Jam  
    

14. Everyone Everywhere  
    

Disc Two: Early Years (John McCready)

1. Elegia  
   

2. In A Lonely Place  
   

3. All Day Long  
   

4. Your Silent Face  
   

5. Sunrise  
   

6. Broken Promise  
   

7. Dreams Never End  
   

8. Cries & Whispers  
   

9. Chosen Time  
   

10. Ecstasy  
    

11. Sooner Than You Think  
    

12. Leave Me Alone  
    

13. Lonesome Tonight  
    

14. Every Little Counts  
    

15. Run Wild  
    

Disc Three: Mixes (Mike Pickering)

1. Confusion (Koma & Bones Mix With Bernard's New Vocal)  
   

2. Paradise (Robert Ricic Mix)  
   

3. Regret (Sabres Slow N Low Mix)  
   

4. Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone Mix)  
   

5. Shell Shock (John Robie Mix)  
   

6. Fine Time (Steve 'Silk' Hurley Mix)  
   

7. 1963 (Arthur Baker Mix)  
   

8. Touched By The Hand Of God (Original Version)  
   

9. Everything's Gone Green (Original Version)  
   

10. Blue Monday (Jam & Spoon Manuela Mix)  
    

11. World In Motion (Pickering/Parke Mix)  
    

12. Here To Stay (Chemical Brothers Remix)  
    

13. Crystal (Lee Coombs Remix)  
    

Disc four: Live (Bobby Gillespie)

1. Ceremony (Studio 54, Barcelona 7th July 1984)  
   

2. Procession (Sunderland, 15th August 1984)  
   

3. Everything's Gone Green (Tolworth Rec. Centre, Kingston, London 6th December 1985)  
   

4. In A Lonely Place (Glastonbury Festival, 20th June 1981)  
   

5. Age Of Consent (Spectrum Arena, Warrington, 1st March 1986)  
   

6. This Time Of Night (Fulcrum Centre, Slough, 7th December 1985)  
   

7. The Perfect Kiss (Fulcrum Centre, Slough, 7th December 1985)  
   

8. Fine Time (Hoffman Estates, Chicago, 30th June 1989)  
   

9. World (Starplex Amphitheatre, Dallas, 21 July 1983)  
   

10. Regret (Reading Festival, 31st August 1993)  
    

11. As It Is When It Was (Reading Festival)  
    

From HMV.co.uk

Obviously there's a few anomalies here......

Slow Jam on the hits disc ? Run Wild on the early years disc ? Date of EGG is wrong - it's 12/3/83 not 85 Date of World is wrong - can't be 1983 !!

Surely they aren't just going to dump the original studio versions back out on us with all these ? Maybe there will be demo versions of some of the tracks instead of simply the album version. Otherwise it ain't worth buying - having got all the live recordings already (indeed masters of three of the shows), I'm almost regretting having paid for it already !

How much did you pay, Benny?

Originally posted by Armand d´Hubert How much did you pay, Benny?

£16.99 on the Hmv.co.uk website

Ta very much. It is not that bad then.

The whole tracklisting is a joke, a sad joke from the compilers. That is really really shite. I was expecting some ince contents, we are given 80% of stuff already available to fans.

PAH !

Baffling Regrettable Circumstance re-mix ... Geoffrey's Slow that Blows mix? instead of the natural choice 'My Island is on Fire'?

This selection, is it genuine? - the live disc seems very odd full of only old stuff (which isn't a bad thing).

Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes Obviously there's a few anomalies here......Slow Jam on the hits disc ?Run Wild on the early years disc ?Date of EGG is wrong - it's 12/3/83 not 85Date of World is wrong - can't be 1983 !!Surely they aren't just going to dump the original studio versions back out on us with all these ? Maybe there will be demo versions of some of the tracks instead of simply the album version. Otherwise it ain't worth buying - having got all the live recordings already (indeed masters of three of the shows), I'm almost regretting having paid for it already !

Cheers for the info.There are one or two live tracks and the odd new mix i have not got.But i too hope for demos or this is rather mundane from a collectors point of view.May interest some that are fairly new to NO but usually most people using the INTERNET will have most of these already. What a shame!

Mmm, well it looks like London Records were using a strange distorted form of democracy, when they asked advice from us fans about what we'd like to see on the set: they didn't use any of our suggestions!

Seriously though, if the four people who selected the disc's running orders are as massively into new order as the rest of us, they should have carefully selected at least hard to find versions of these tracks, rather than the usual album mixes. Why not just do a "Pet Shop Boys", and remaster all the albums with a bonus disc of a few B-sides and demos instead? (I know why, actually - money, but there you go).

The best we can hope for is that the studio versions of Fine Time/Temptation/Perfect Kiss/Ceremony/Confusion/Blue Monday/In A Lonely Place/Lonesome Tonight will be the 7" or full length 12" versions which aren't on any CD compilations so far (but I very much doubt they will be).

The live disc looks good, but the remix disc only has one mix on which I don't have (the hard-to-find 'Paradise' mix on the Aussie True Faith 12"). Don't we have enough remix compilations/singles already? Could've done with swapping that for a rarities/demos disc, I reckon.

Going on the number of tracks on each disc, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those mixes are edited down, 'Substance' style too (isn't that 'Regret' remix about 12 minutes long?). Will they finally manage to get the correct version of 'Temptation' on there at last (my bet is that it'll be the original 7")?

I think they'll have to keep the price at around £17, otherwise not many people will be buying it!

Andrew Morrison www.TrustNoOne.org.uk

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Huntsman> > This selection, is it genuine? - the live disc seems very odd full of only old stuff (which isn't a bad thing).>

The mooted tracklisting did have Turn My Way and Crystal, plus a recent Alan Wise intro all listed. Maybe they didn't make the final cut? Or the CD over-ran (do they still clock these things at 74mins?).

There's no way that the eleven tracks listed clock up 74 mins.......maybe the HMV site ran out of space or simply omitted the others ?

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Huntsman> > This selection, is it genuine? - the live disc seems very odd full of only old stuff (which isn't a bad thing).>

The mooted tracklisting did have Turn My Way and Crystal, plus a recent Alan Wise intro all listed. Maybe they didn't make the final cut? Or the CD over-ran (do they still clock these things at 74mins?).

I think 80mins. is tops these days.

I'm still reading the live disc and I'm stil surprised at how many old classics are on ... even with the inclusion of the few new songs you've mentioned the balance is old which I find hard to believe NO agreed to have as the final gig? ... this element of the set seems great (as you can't easily obtain the live gear especially not good quality) but if they release old live stuff why not demo material ... the stuff we 'really' want to hear and keep. So, live stuff is okay, but re-mixes? ... bit boring, and easily attanable. As for the general releases (the singles) - what else can they do?

So I understand, Barney wanted to have a whole live show from 2001-02 as the live disc, but they couldn't find one without errors !

Commercially produced CD's can pack a lot more than 80 minutes into them with special compression techniques.

I have some mix cd's which are nearly 2hours long (full dj sets) you cant copy them though, god knows what format their in but it certainly not wav

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by Al Jarvis Maybe they didn't make the final cut? Or the CD over-ran (do they still clock these things at 74mins?).

I think 80mins. is tops these days.

The Rest Of New Order clocks at 79:59. Intelligently done. Some of the CD playters might list 80:00 or even 80:01 for that CD.

Originally posted by DoN Commercially produced CD's can pack a lot more than 80 minutes into them with special compression techniques.I have some mix cd's which are nearly 2hours long (full dj sets)you cant copy them though, god knows what format their in but it certainly not wav

Nearly two hours long ? Oh i'd like more information on that please...

Originally posted by DoN Commercially produced CD's can pack a lot more than 80 minutes into them with special compression techniques.I have some mix cd's which are nearly 2hours long (full dj sets)you cant copy them though, god knows what format their in but it certainly not wav

... I'm sorry, DJ examples cannot be used.

Originally posted by Huntsman Baffling Regrettable Circumstance re-mix ... Geoffrey's Slow that Blows mix? instead of the natural choice 'My Island is on Fire'?This selection, is it genuine? - the live disc seems very odd full of only old stuff (which isn't a bad thing).

I'm not baffled. Everyone who prefers the Fire Island remixes has cloth ears. Weatherall's mixes are light years ahead.

Benny, well done for giving the news first. As for the Box-set... I don't know why I'm moaning about it, as I'm sure going to buy the damned thing, but...

WHAT A LOAD OF BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's more of a cocks set than a box set.....

Originally posted by OnlyOneKenObe©
> Originally posted by Huntsman> Baffling Regrettable Circumstance re-mix ... Geoffrey's Slow that Blows mix? instead of the natural choice 'My Island is on Fire'?> > This selection, is it genuine? - the live disc seems very odd full of only old stuff (which isn't a bad thing).> >

I'm not baffled. Everyone who prefers the Fire Island remixes has cloth ears. Weatherall's mixes are light years ahead.

shut your teeth.

At last a tracklisting for the Nool er that only has a 150 copies of procession 7". Yours truly.

Originally posted by OnlyOneKenObe©
> Originally posted by Huntsman> Baffling Regrettable Circumstance re-mix ... Geoffrey's Slow that Blows mix? instead of the natural choice 'My Island is on Fire'?> > This selection, is it genuine? - the live disc seems very odd full of only old stuff (which isn't a bad thing).> >

I'm not baffled. Everyone who prefers the Fire Island remixes has cloth ears. Weatherall's mixes are light years ahead.

Cloth ears HERE!:D I have the WEATHERALL mixes on a promo and excellent they are too.I just love the FIRE ISLAND MIX but the best is the ROCKET MICK BANNED FROM THE BLOB MIX. Can they put FAC 53 in BROWN on for me and give me a RECORD SLEEVE i can make myself.Still the CD would look a bit daft in a 7 inch cover:D

Originally posted by fletcher_christian At last a tracklisting for the Nool er that only has a 150 copies of procession 7". Yours truly.

Who? I want to shake that NOOL'S hand and then ROB him/her.:D

Originally posted by Huntsman > Originally posted by OnlyOneKenObe©
> Originally posted by Huntsman> Baffling Regrettable Circumstance re-mix ... Geoffrey's Slow that Blows mix? instead of the natural choice 'My Island is on Fire'?> > This selection, is it genuine? - the live disc seems very odd full of only old stuff (which isn't a bad thing).> >

I'm not baffled. Everyone who prefers the Fire Island remixes has cloth ears. Weatherall's mixes are light years ahead.

shut your teeth.

You think I didn't type that through gritted teeth, huh,do you?

Originally posted by MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY > Originally posted by OnlyOneKenObe©
> Originally posted by Huntsman> Baffling Regrettable Circumstance re-mix ... Geoffrey's Slow that Blows mix? instead of the natural choice 'My Island is on Fire'?> > This selection, is it genuine? - the live disc seems very odd full of only old stuff (which isn't a bad thing).> >

I'm not baffled. Everyone who prefers the Fire Island remixes has cloth ears. Weatherall's mixes are light years ahead.

Cloth ears HERE!:D I have the WEATHERALL mixes on a promo and excellent they are too.I just love the FIRE ISLAND MIX but the best is the ROCKET MICK BANNED FROM THE BLOB MIX. Can they put FAC 53 in BROWN on for me and give me a RECORD SLEEVE i can make myself.Still the CD would look a bit daft in a 7 inch cover:D

Perhaps it a Pet Shop Boys thing? On a serious point Sabres Of Paradise's Smokebelch II and Fire Island's Fire Island are still likely to pop up in my all time top ten of all time.

Originally posted by MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY > Originally posted by fletcher_christian> At last a tracklisting for the Nool er that only has a 150 copies of procession 7". Yours truly.

Who? I want to shake that NOOL'S hand and then ROB him/her.:D

There are plenty of your type downunder, common thieves, beggars, the like! :pirates:

Originally posted by fletcher_christian > Originally posted by MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY> > > > Originally posted by fletcher_christian> > At last a tracklisting for the Nool er that only has a 150 copies of procession 7". Yours truly. >

Who? I want to shake that NOOL'S hand and then ROB him/her.:D

There are plenty of your type downunder, common thieves, beggars, the like! :pirates:

ya f@cker

Thank you Mr. East

Unfortunately this listing makes me depressed.

I haven't done an accurate count, and even if you assume they can squeeze 80 mins. onto a CD, the average track length for CD1 works out at 5:42 for 14 tracks.

Almost all the 12" versions of those songs are longer than that, so they must be edited versions.

An opportunity wasted

Sabre's cut and dry is monkey food.

Fire is boss.

Repeat until fade.