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Yeah - I saw it. You're right, the interview clip was taken from 'The O-Zone'. I believe that particular show was a 'PSB' special that was broadcast on 01/10/93:
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/c584bdeef89c45cfb1aaa4685222476a
Here's the actual show. The Electronic bit starts at 17:00 minutes:
^ Cheers Perspex.
Neil or Bernard said in the clip that Neil wrote the lyrics kind of about Morrissey getting away with being miserable.Yeah, i mean whenever i'm being miserable i get called a miserable twat. Yet Morrisey was lauded for it. Ah well, such is life.
Though Morrissey these days doesn't get away with being a knob 'ead.
perspexorange wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/65796494
Come on, you Reds!
Oh nice!![[:)]](/emoticons/smile.gif){kind=small}
New lyrics by Mike Garry.Great job that.
Yeah. Fab stuff.
Nice that he stills mentions AHW.
Also has some NO bits and even an appearance from Mrs Morris.
It's put me in the mood for some footy.
perspexorange wrote: Yeah. Fab stuff.
Nice that he stills mentions AHW.
Also has some NO bits and even an appearance from Mrs Morris.
Yep, clocked them.Nice to see them included.
Two 2023 films about business shenanigans that I didn't think I'd like but I did:
Air - the one about Nike chasing Micahel Jordan's signature for that sponsorship deal. Could have been boring but Ben Affleck and Matt Damon made it work.
BlackBerry - a film about the rise and fall of the mobile phone brand. The comedy-drama approach made it work better than I expected.
Both films have decent soundtracks. Air's is more 1980's US radio whilst BlackBerry is mostly late 90's/early 2000's stuff. However BlackBerry also has an 80's track, namely LWTUA. So BlackBerry wins!
[TWITTER]1664678608705552422[/TWITTER] Also on Apple TV in some territories. Apple showing BlackBerry? Kinda ironic.
Ah yes, I saw this mentioned on the Chemical Brothers twitter about ten days ago. Will these pics embed?
Yes they will!
There's some good stuff there - the Stones Roses, Sex Pistols, Led Zeppelin, Van Morrison, Underworld, The Smiths, Pulp - assuming you have the funds and the inclination to fill your collection with expensive pressings of stuff you've probably already got.
And I see NO's twitter has mentioned it now
[TWITTER]1665765676341161984[/TWITTER]
A wee segment with Blue Monday here(can't remember exactly where) https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0fd5tj1/gods-of-tennis-series-1-3-martina-navratilova-and-chris-evert Age of Consent for the closing segment (instrumental) Good set of 3 programs if you're into tennis even if some of the music isn't matched up with the years they show.
Armond White, author and Culture Critic for the Nation Review revisits Power Curruption and Lies: NationalReview.com
It's amazing how much he reads into it and extrapolates all kinds of social and political meaning behind the album and songs. And flexing his vocabulary seems to be a key component of his writing. This is probably the most over-the-top review I've ever read of the album. It's to the point where I found it laughable. But hey, at least he likes it!
Andy wrote: Armond White, author and Culture Critic for the Nation Review revisits Power Curruption and Lies: NationalReview.com
It's amazing how much he reads into it and extrapolates all kinds of social and political meaning behind the album and songs. And flexing his vocabulary seems to be a key component of his writing. This is probably the most over-the-top review I've ever read of the album. It's to the point where I found it laughable. But hey, at least he likes it!
"That radical gesture from the British band shames the complacent partisanship of Millennial pop."
"From Lizzo’s defensive self-indulgence, to Taylor Swift’s gender bias, to Beyoncé’s tribalism and the Bidenomics of Garth Brooks, contemporary pop eschews ethics in favor of social-justice narcissism"
"a far cry from the virtue-signaling that Millennial pop stars celebrate as “change.”
"However, today’s indoctrinated youth express their smartness through specious bromides regarding gender, race, and climate movements."
Crikey, he really doesn't like Millenials, Taylor, Bey and Lizzo does he.
Andy wrote:
Stephen sighs, then once again tells the story of the DMX and "Blue Monday": Reverb.com
Hooky has a fresher take on the tales of "Blue Monday": "I produced it with Mike Johnson, our engineer...".
I was always under the impression that his main contribution to the track was playing the "For a Few Dollars More" line over it:
New Order's 1987 appearance makes no.18 in The Guardian's Glastonbury Headline Sets, ranked!
The photo is captioned as the 1987 set but it is NOT from that. Think that photo has been discussed on here before but nobody could pin down where and when the photo is from. Maybe Roskilde in the 80s or something?
Also it's stated the set was broadcast live on Radio 1 "in a portent of the wall-to-wall coverage the festival would eventually receive". Nope , it was NOT broadcast live. It was broadcast on Radio 1,yes, but not til around 4 months later.
Yours Sincerely,
A.Pedant
Fotz wrote: New Order's 1987 appearance makes no.18 in The Guardian's Glastonbury Headline Sets, ranked!
The photo is captioned as the 1987 set but it is NOT from that. Think that photo has been discussed on here before but nobody could pin down where and when the photo is from. Maybe Roskilde in the 80s or something?
Also it's stated the set was broadcast live on Radio 1 "in a portent of the wall-to-wall coverage the festival would eventually receive". Nope , it was NOT broadcast live. It was broadcast on Radio 1,yes, but not til around 4 months later.
Yours Sincerely,
A.Pedant
Barney looks impossibly thin in that photo. Between that and it appearing to be an early afternoon set, I'm guessing early eighties.
^ Yes.Thing is with that photo, that field does look a bit like Glastonbury Pyramid Stage. As i said , this photo has been mistaken elsewhere before for Glastonbury and discussed on here. But it isn't NO at the 1981 Glast because Bernard has different clothes on and it's early afternoon not evening.And definitely not 1987.
Probably Roskilde 1st July 1984.Bernard appears to have same dark tee and jeans combo
Fotz wrote: New Order's 1987 appearance makes no.18 in The Guardian's Glastonbury Headline Sets, ranked!
The photo is captioned as the 1987 set but it is NOT from that. Think that photo has been discussed on here before but nobody could pin down where and when the photo is from. Maybe Roskilde in the 80s or something?
Also it's stated the set was broadcast live on Radio 1 "in a portent of the wall-to-wall coverage the festival would eventually receive". Nope , it was NOT broadcast live. It was broadcast on Radio 1,yes, but not til around 4 months later.
Yours Sincerely,
A.Pedant
Looks European early/mid 80s to me as well. A lot of vans and mullets in the audience. Not sure it's Roskilde though.
this isn't new order related...
however. on the cover of shellshock, we see alex.
and some guy just carved his name into the colliseum,
so is he a new order fan, or just dumb......
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"Members of New Order" interviewed for documentary about legendary Toronto radio station CFNY. Details are scarce as it's not expected to hit screens until 2024: AJournalOfMusicalThings.com
Appears to be part of the interview NME conducted around the time of Suede's excellent Autofiction album last year, but this bit was recently uploaded. When discussing "firsts", Brett Anderson reveals his first concert was New Order:
Now 80s Alternative just released.
Thieves Like Us LWTUA Getting Away With it (borderline 80s/90s depending on where you live) Atmosphere
Now 80s Alternative
Hooky and Graeme Park interviewed on Craig Charles 6Music show yesterday:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n53p
Something Hooky mentions is that Martin Atkins was going to join Warsaw, but ended up joining Magazine instead.
I don't think I've ever heard this fact before and I'm sure I would've done. More Hooky misremembering/BS possibly, or is there any fact to this?
Incidentally, after divulging this info, he responds to Craig's question as to whether Martin regretted his decision as 'he couldn't have turned into as much of a backstabber as Steve Morris' or words to that effect. Never misses a trick to badmouth the band, eh...even when the question was completely unrelated.
Edit: I'm not even sure that Atkins ever joined Magazine, did he? Think he might be thinking of Martin Jackson, who played with Magazine, The Chameleons, Durutti Column, The Freshies... and Swing Out Sister! Still, I don't think I've ever heard of Jackson potentially joining Warsaw.
Confusion! Ra-Ta-Ta, Ti-Ti-Ti Ta-Ta Hey!
Atkins joined Public Image Ltd. in 1979, and was there off and on until 1985.
The drummer in Magazine was Martin Jackson.
Hook has a faulty memory, and wants to spit up little tidbits like they're facts.
Seriously, fuck him. What a sad, bitter old man he is. Gone from New Order for 16 years (!), and still letting them live rent-free in his head.
perspexorange wrote: Hooky and Graeme Park interviewed on Craig Charles 6Music show yesterday:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n53p
Something Hooky mentions is that Martin Atkins was going to join Warsaw, but ended up joining Magazine instead.
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More PH nonsense. Martin Atkins played for PIL and was a pretty good drummer. Probably mixed up with MJ. JD/NO wouldn't have worked half as well without Steve M on drums and his slightly awkward personality. No disrespect, but The Light drummer, while technically proficient, doesn't have Steve's "jerky" moves, albeit probably as a result of testing high strength mindbending drugs in the late 70's.
A medal to Mr Perspex for listening to that
tapebias wrote:
A medal to Mr Perspex for listening to that
To be honest, it gets harder and harder to do, with each passing snipe from Mr Hook.
I know that journalists often try and get a rise out of him, so I know him bringing them up in conversation is not always 100% his fault (although he could leave a ‘no comment’ statement).
But it’s the way that he finds a way to bad-mouth them from the most innocuous questions that annoys me. I just want to hear an interview with him where I don’t end up rolling my eyes.
