LostSiren wrote: The original New Order movie song! (or were there earlier movies that had NO?)
You might have something there. I'm not really aware of any before...
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I think it probably is.
It predates both 'Something Wild' and 'Empire State' by a few months. Don't think there were any before that.
Hmmm... just checked IMDB and this film from 1985 apparently includes 'Confusion':
I'll try and hunt it down and report back. Might be a bit like 'Reality Bites' which has a 'blink and you'll miss it' appearance by 'Confusion'. Took me ages to find the exact moment when scanning throiugh it a few years ago. It probably would've been quicker for me to just watch the film.
Well even if there were some obscure examples that pre-date Pretty In Pink, I guess Shellshock remains the first song they did for a movie. So yeah, the original New Order Movie Song does have a ring of truth to it.
Oh look, someone has done a Pretty In Pink video edit for Shellshock.
I know they said that Blane looked bad at the end because Andrew McCarthy had to wear a wig for the re-shoots. But no one mentions how bad Andie's (Molly Ringwall's) hair looks at times. Ringwald's hair seems to improve at the same time as McCarthy's goes crap. She looked better/cooler in Breakfast Club though.
Let's see if I can out-nerd you here Perspex - by telling you more about the track's appearance in Maxxxine.
Shellshock apears about 5 minutes before the end of the film. It's basically the track intro. The first 50-55 seconds, approx. No vocals. There's some crowd noise over the track at first, and there's spoken dialogue after that. NO fans will spot it, but I don't think it's going to bring a new flock of fans to the band. During the dialogue, the track fades into original score made for the film. I think if you're watching the film rather than listening to the music, you'll barely notice when it disappears.
ZZ Top's Gimme All Your Lovin, by contrast, is much more noticable at the start of the film. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!
Shellshock isn't even on the soundtrack album.
https://filmmusicreporter.com/2024/07/02/maxxxine-soundtrack-album-details/
It would be great to get a remaster of the 6'30 version.
Jcp7 wrote: Shellshock isn't even on the soundtrack album.
https://filmmusicreporter.com/2024/07/02/maxxxine-soundtrack-album-details/
It would be great to get a remaster of the 6'30 version.
I think the excellent, original soundtrack of Pretty in Pink (featuring the definitive version of "Shellshock") is overdue for a remaster. Perhaps the Brotherhood box will feature that version of the song...
Sorry to get too far away from the purpose of this thread, but I just saw this clip not knowing anything about the movie (apparently a trilogy) or the star, Mia Goth. Not only is she adorable, she also is credited with writing and executive producing on the film:
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The Dolby performances are pretty cool.
However, I find it a bit weird for an artist to open a set with a track by another band (especially one in a similar genre).
I really like Dolby's work and was quite a fan back in the 80s, but I think I'd be standing there, watching Blue Monday, and thinking 'I wish I was watching New Order instead'.
The thought that popped into my head watching the above clip was: Why doesn't Bernard use more effects on his voice during BM live? It's quite easy to do these days, AFAIK.
perspexorange wrote:
I find it a bit weird for an artist to open a set with a track by another band (especially one in a similar genre).
Yes, so he's doing a mini-set of about 6 tracks as part of the Totally Tubular festival tour. And two of the six tracks are covers - the other being Bowie's "Heroes". Meanwhile there's no room for Wind Power which was the first Thomas Dolby song I ever knew - he did it on TOTPs. I Scare Myself is also absent...
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Debaser wrote: The thought that popped into my head watching the above clip was: Why doesn't Bernard use more effects on his voice during BM live? It's quite easy to do these days, AFAIK.
perspexorange wrote:
I find it a bit weird for an artist to open a set with a track by another band (especially one in a similar genre).
Yes, so he's doing a mini-set of about 6 tracks as part of the Totally Tubular festival tour. And two of the six tracks are covers - the other being Bowie's "Heroes". Meanwhile there's no room for Wind Power which was the first Thomas Dolby song I ever knew - he did it on TOTPs. I Scare Myself is also absent...
i saw him recently on that tour, and it was great.
he did more improvs here:
thomas dolby is more a showman in last decade or so.
he's bored with just playing his songs, although he did: europa and the pirate twins one of our submarines hyperactive and of course she blinded me with science.
he's more into crowd interaction, and other stuff.
his days of straight concerts are long gone. he has a few live dvds where he did that type.
nowadays, he's pushing a new book, and his last album came out quite awhile ago, so he's not working on new music.
he's just doing the music gigs on the side of being a professor, and many other projects.
i'm just glad i get to see him from time to time doing this stuff.
also, he will be doing longer sets in another tour, it will be him and tom bailey by themselves. so they will have time to do more songs then.
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Pretty in Pink soundtrack is like the rosetta stone of my musical development - first album I had of anything New Order, Smiths, Joe Jackson, OMD and the Bunnymen - I started buying all of them, right after. Never really liked INXS tho.
very brief mention of joy division in the simple minds documentary,
'everything is possible', they wanted to make a new album and new sound, and someone mentioned joy divisions album, making them rethink what they wanted to do.
here's a promo clip:
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Thanks for this, -1. Nice to see JD getting a nod. I think Kerr once said that after they'd recorded their debut LP, which they were initially pleased with, they heard Unknown Pleasures and felt instant remorse for what they'd producedn. Probably the same story that's being recounted in the documentary.
I really rather liked the first few LPs by Simple Minds, up to and including the wonderful New Gold Dream. But, then, the drop in quality was (IMHO) staggering.
To go from beautiful, shimmering pieces like 'Someone Somewhere (In Summertime)', 'Hunter And The Hunted', 'New Gold Dream' etc. to big, brash 'stadium rock' like 'Waterfront' was too much for me to stomach.
Sparkle In The Rain has a handful of 'ok' tracks, but by the time Once Upon A Time was released, they'd become something that was (again, IMO) fairly dreadful. Alive & Kicking .
I would probably quite like to see that documentary but I think the choice of music for the trailer is really bad. All their bombastic, over the top crap and none of the good stuff. Ah well.
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Yes, New Gold Dream has some truly lovely songs on. Big Sleep , Glittering Prize, Someone Somewhere In Summertime to name just a few. I have it on vinyl and also a 7" of Glittering Prize with a brilliant instrumental version on the b side, showcases the bass playing of Derek Forbes. Didn't he leave the band later because he didn't like the direction the band were taking in the mid 80s or was it another reason?? Sparkle In The Rain, yeah a lot of it was OTT Bombastic but it does remind of the summer i left school. I had it on cassette and loved songs like White Hot Day.
They really were pretty damn big and inescapable around the time of Don't You Forget About Me in mid 80s.
I never reallly investigated their earlier stuff , before New Gold Dream. But songs like I Travel and The American i'm familiar with.
I did really like Belfast Child though from their late 80s period. Still vividly reminds me of that era. Total rip off of She Moved Thròuĝh The Fair though eh!?
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perspexorange wrote: Thanks for this, -1. Nice to see JD getting a nod. I think Kerr once said that after they'd recorded their debut LP, which they were initially pleased with, they heard Unknown Pleasures and felt instant remorse for what they'd producedn. Probably the same story that's being recounted in the documentary.
I really rather liked the first few LPs by Simple Minds, up to and including the wonderful New Gold Dream. But, then, the drop in quality was (IMHO) staggering.
To go from beautiful, shimmering pieces like 'Someone Somewhere (In Summertime)', 'Hunter And The Hunted', 'New Gold Dream' etc. to big, brash 'stadium rock' like 'Waterfront' was too much for me to stomach.
Sparkle In The Rain has a handful of 'ok' tracks, but by the time Once Upon A Time was released, they'd become something that was (again, IMO) fairly dreadful. Alive & Kicking .
I would probably quite like to see that documentary but I think the choice of music for the trailer is really bad. All their bombastic, over the top crap and none of the good stuff. Ah well.
we are almost on the same wavelength.
i started with new gold dream (my favorite), loved sparkle in the rain, lost some interest with once upon a time, loved street fighting years, and it been hit or miss since then.
the documentary does have the exact story you mentioned.
the first hour is a just a basic retelling of their history. so not a lot of new information.
the presentation is top notch though, and i coudn't get enough of the early formation, and what they went through.
send me a PM and i'll give you the link for the download.
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I have a soft spot for Simple Minds, they were among the first "real" bands I liked, I started listening to them at Don't You and progressed towards earlier more "serious" stuff but still followed them until Street Fighting Years when they sort of drifted off my radar, but then caught them live several times years later.
Unrelated, Rolling Stone published another ranking of the best album covers ever, scroll until the top 10 (but you can already guess which one it is), No New Order unfortunately.
Fotz wrote: Yes, New Gold Dream has some truly lovely songs on. Big Sleep , Glittering Prize, Someone Somewhere In Summertime to name just a few. I have it on vinyl and also a 7" of Glittering Prize with a brilliant instrumental version on the b side, showcases the bass playing of Derek Forbes. Didn't he leave the band later because he didn't like the direction the band were taking in the mid 80s or was it another reason?? Sparkle In The Rain, yeah a lot of it was OTT Bombastic but it does remind of the summer i left school. I had it on cassette and loved songs like White Hot Day.
They really were pretty damn big and inescapable around the time of Don't You Forget About Me in mid 80s.
I never reallly investigated their earlier stuff , before New Gold Dream. But songs like I Travel and The American i'm familiar with.
I did really like Belfast Child though from their late 80s period. Still vividly reminds me of that era. Total rip off of She Moved Thròuĝh The Fair though eh!?
you might want to look in the deluxe version of new gold dream, there is a 2 cd, and superdeluxe version with all kinds of instrumentals, mixes, videos, and live tracks. one of the best ones, and not too pricey. even comes with a replica tourbook.
there were reasons for derek forbes leaving, but it depends on if you ask him or the group.
belfast child was a tribute to she moves through the fair, it was huge in the uk, but of course over here in the US, we hardly paid attention. i kept up with all the imports though.
i'm sure i collect almost, if not more things from simple minds, like new order. i'm a much bigger fans of them than i am of u2, although i collected them quite a bit in the early days, along with big country.
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World in Motion back in the charts... did England win Euro 2024 or something (not a sports fan)?
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Blue Monday used as the intermission music in between sets 1 & 2 in the men’s Olympic tennis final. Definitely a few no fans in the audience.
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Not sure how I feel about a JD day.
On the one hand, it's good for the town to recognise that one of the most influential bands of all time were formed there.
On the other hand, I think tours that (inevitably) take in the site of Ian's sad demise doesn't sit well with me. I'm sure there's no disrespect here on behalf of the person who is hosting the tours or by the participants, but it just feels kind of wrong (IMO).
I've visited Macclesfield many times, but only visited Ian's memorial stone a couple of times. I've never visited Barton Street. I don't blame people that do, but I think that, if people want to visit it, they should maybe do so on their own, as a couple etc. and just 'nod your head' towards there. Rather than large crowds gathering outside number 77, talking about the events of 18/05/80.
I think visting the memorial stone is a much better idea. After all, the stone was placed there to remember him.
Andy wrote: The original still holds a dark allure, but I can't say I feel compelled to see this new reboot of The Crow. Joy Division's "Disorder" is on the soundtrack, though: NME.com
I've probably said this on these forums before but, being both a comic book fan and an even bigger JD/NO fan, I read the original James O'Barr book quite early in its life. It might sound a bit soft of me, but it really spoke to me as a piece of work. Two men, one the character, the other the author, struggling to come to terms with immense loss.
Went to see the film when it came out at the cinema and really liked it. It didn't have the same impact to me as the book, but it was still decent and a great performance by Brandon Lee (RIP).
This remake, however, looks awful. Reviews have (unsurprisingly) not been kind.
Some things are best left alone.
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Question in a Oasis Quiz on the BBC News Website today ![[:d]](/emoticons/biggrin.gif){kind=small}
Drummer Alan White, who'd joined Oasis in 1995, left the band in 2005. Who was he replaced by?
A) Neil Peart B) Zak Starkey C) Stephen Morris
With the Definitive Brotherhood box announcement, this will probably go unnoticed, but there's a new Luca Guadagnino film starring Daniel Craig coming out and New Order's "Leave Me Alone" features on the soundtrack. Also of note, the film is based on the novel Queer by Ian Curtis hero William S. Burroughs: IndieWire.com
WTF is this at 8:35? Jaguar Skills pretending to be NO - and also Yazoo (6:20)? Outrageous!
Also on YouTube; same timings.
Debaser wrote: WTF is this at 8:35? Jaguar Skills pretending to be NO - and also Yazoo (6:20)? Outrageous!
If you scroll down to the tracklist, he credits all the original artists.
50poundnote wrote:
Debaser wrote: WTF is this at 8:35? Jaguar Skills pretending to be NO - and also Yazoo (6:20)? Outrageous!
If you scroll down to the tracklist, he credits all the original artists.
Oh I'm aware. That's why I say he's pretending to be them. If he said it was a cover or an unoffical re-version by him, it would make more sense I think. And as for "Extended 12" mix"... Hmmmm.
Final episode of The Grand Tour 'One for the Road" out today, featuring LWTUA and May in a white UP tshirt.
Forgive the scope creep, but "Getting Away With It" plays at the end of this week's episode of Industry (Season 3 Episode 6), switching to PSB's "Always On My Mind" playing over the end credits.
