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Best New Order Era Poll?

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Best, Most Essential album era?

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  • 1980-1981 Movement + Ceremony + EGG 9 (8%)
  • 1982-1984 Power, Corr.+ Lies + BM+ Conf.+ Temp. +TLU 37 (31%)
  • 1985-1986 Low-Life + Brotherhood 29 (24%)
  • 1987-1989 Technique + TrueFaith + TBTHOG + BM1988 40 (33%)
  • 1990-1992 Electronic/ Revenge + Worldinmotion + Other2 1 (1%)
  • 1993 Republic 0 (0%)
  • 1994-1996 The Dark Ages, lost in a haze 0 (0%)
  • 1997-2000 Monaco 0 (0%)
  • 2001-2002 Get Ready with some help from Viagra 4 (3%)

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i like the 1982-1984 period the best myself

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nah, that 82-84 era didn't have barney's current vocals. those days they were still joy division-esque and barney was trying to sound like ian/or sing real low so no one would notice him. not one of the best, considering i like barney's vocals the best out of all the elements in NO's music.

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The Low-life/Brotherhood area is also a very good one, two very strong albums, I still prefer Technique though...

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well, i think that with Temptation and Hurt, the band started producing themselves, and Barney started to assert his personality in the vocals. The transformation would leap to another level with Power, Corruption, and Lies, they no longer were ex-Joy Division anymore, and Barney has come out of the shadows in Age of Consent, 586, The Village, Your Silent Face, Leave Me Alone, and later the great Lonesome Tonight and Thieves Like Us, not even mentioning the monster hit. Lots of creativity, the energy with the band and in Barney's transformation to front man is fresh and apparent in the recording. while all the 80s tracks sound dated in "dance" terms, i think these tracks hold up very well as classics, while a lot of later tunes sound more dated (just listen to "State of the Nation" or the album version of "Round and Round", and they sound much more cliched)

not to say others are bad. i read alot online about how Brotherhood is a lousy album in their canon and wonder why... such beautiful songs... Weirdo, Paradise, Bizarre Love Triangle, All Day Long, the Velvet Underground influence especially on the funny Every little Counts...

copied from a website... "Yawn. Descent background music, but nothing you'd take on a trip. Submitted by a reviewer in Los Angeles, CA"

" A crap record. The critics panned this one for good reason. Get Bizarre Love Triangle on Substance. This is a disappointing album full of flawed tracks. Submitted by a reviewer in Oxford, OH"

what are these people thinking?

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I think the years are a little mixed somewhat - simply had to vote for Low-Life era, but don't think it's got much to do with Brotherhood, per se. Should link 84-85 as half of Low-Life was getting an airing in the former year.

I'd then link 86-87 for a myriad of reasons. Mainly I guess cos I was first year at Uni then and you tend to think of 'years' in terms of one September, to the following July, which would then encompass both Bro'hood till True Faith and Substance.

Technique was really way out on its own in 89 and I can't see how it's linked to True Faith. In fact, they basically did their first disappearing act in 88 so there's a big gap to cater for.. .

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i think low-life and brotherhood are two fantastic albums, but i had to vote for technique/true faith, etc. as i thought they were really on a roll then.

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for my money, LOWLIFE & BROTHERHOOD is the best NEW ORDER period..... I was so hooked on New Order then....that I had even posted self-made A3 posters around the Newcastle University campus, heralding the arrival of BROTHERHOOD...giving free advertising for New Order.... You see, things always arrived slower in Newcastle compared with Sydney...so I rushed down to Sydney that weekend BROTHERHOOD was released, brought it back to Newcastle and made tons of photocopies of the cover with the faculty photocopier..-very quietly ...into A3 posters and hung them around the campus.... Ahh.....those were the days of free labour....or labour of love...

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Hello all! Think about it the techno album of Technique was way, way, way ahead of its time. If Republic and Technique swapped their release dates I truely think New Order would be so incredibly popular. Republic has some great songs, but I think it set them back a bit. What do you think about the swap? Let me know. See you, my wife is teasing me b/c I'm chatting on the net.

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To the members of the band it had to of been the Movement years due to the comeback after Ian's death.

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I must rethink this question and listen to all my cd's full blast. Thank you for a great question.PS. I really liked revenge and saw them live in Boston. It was really cool to see Hooky 2.5 feet away. He's quite a little man with a big ass bass.

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Although i first started following 'N-O' around the time of 'Blue Monday'(1983). The golden period(for me) was 1985-86' with two fucking "kick-ass" LP's (Low-Life & Brotherhood) and at the time time they were the lads band on the terraces at The Bridge'

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i realize that the groupings are somewhat arbitrary, but its all in fun...

i admit that it is a little unfair sticking Low-life and Brotherhood together, very different albums, both with great stuff, timeless tracks... i just considered this the post Blue Monday fame, after working with Arthur Baker period, New Order were "indie" stars of both the alternative (not that they used that word yet) crowd and leftfield (did they use word back then?) dance music, they made two excellent records in 1985-6, then with success of the remix of Bizarre Love Triangle, the next period saw them reaching higher further beyond the indie landscape with True Faith, the Blue Monday re-release, and Technique... and on to the top with World in Motion.

and i should have called the mid90's "The Lost Years"

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P C& Lies, 586, temptation what a wonderful time period of classic New Order

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Originally posted by Monkey Wrench P C& Lies, 586, temptation what a wonderful time period of classic New Order

certainly true. 5 8 6 is still my favorite NO song.

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Finelly the early years: 1980-1981 because of In a Lonely Place, EGG & Procession. But hard to decide: the PCL & Technique periods are my fav too.

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I'm goin' for Technique cos it's just so majestic. Pretty much the natural culmination of everything they'd been working at up to then, and they pulled it off with such marvellous aplomb (ooooerrrr missus!)

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this may take some serious thinking...i like the idea of the dark ages though, but i will need to weigh in on this at a later date

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I think I'll go with the era we're in now, 'cause I joined halfway through :D

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Gee, I thought this was going to be about what's the best poll...

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Pattie...I thought the very same thing...

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Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin Pattie...I thought the very same thing...

But YOU are STUPID!:wink: :p

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Has to be 1987-89 for me, this was the period I became involved, and Technique for me, is the pinnacle (so far) of the bands career. I love loads of the early stuff as well, but for the effect they had on me as a teenager, I'll always pick out this era:thumb:

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In the Low-Life/Brotherhood era, they made what were two of their best singles, "BLT" and "TPK" so I had to vote for that.

And I think there are links between the two albums, "Sunrise" seemed to hint towards the guitar work on "Brotherhood."

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Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin> Pattie...I thought the very same thing...

But YOU are STUPID!:wink: :p

stupid...or just somewhat unintelligent??? :lol:

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I go for 1982-1984 and for 2003-.... It must be my age; hoping for the best still to come.

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Difficult choice to make, because I basically love all of it, bar one or two songs. I have been following them from the start, I can still remember the shivers down my teenage spine when I first heard Joy Division. I have voted for the Technique era in the end because it oozes the sun, sea and sex atmoshpere you would expect to find in Ibiza. Best move they ever made.

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MR and I were actually talking about this on the phone yesterday evening and my own personal period would actually encompass two of the listed ones.

1984 - 1985 were very special times indeed.

Highlights for me? Far too many to mention but a few which immediately spring to mind are hearing DECADES as one of the encores at the RFH show. THE PERFECT KISS. The Legendary FRANKFURT trip, the shows between Sunderland and Heaven in the summer of 1984 and the Salford Technical College gig in 1985 with the Happy Mondays. Bloody brilliant times.

DM

PS I am in the UK until the end of this month. A few of us are meeting up in the west end of London Wednesday for a few memory exchanges (and several large ones). If anyone else would like to come along e-mail me. Should be a gas.

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Originally posted by David Molyneux MR and I were actually talking about this on the phone yesterday evening and my own personal period would actually encompass two of the listed ones.

MR? Or 'JG' as he's better known here! ;)

See you Wednesday (doing the Muff game tomorrow first!).

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PCL era would definetly be the most essential, that's when they defined themselves, came out of the shadow of Joy Division if you like.

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for me, i somehow find some of the early NO songs where they began to experiment more with synthesizers to be the most essential...songs like Everything's Gone Green, 5 8 6 (particularly the Peel Sessions version), Video 5 8 6 and Blue Monday are absolutely mind-blowing to me. and they were so innovative, too. absolutely astonishing...

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