Ceremony to Superheated - revisiting and reviewing every core song
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I like Slow Jam. I like the guitar on it, Hooky’s bass, Steve’s drums, and actually like Bernard’s lyrics.Can’t be arsed to talk about Rock The Shack except to say the Lamacq session version is better.
Two of their very worst. RTS is pretty dreadful but, I have to say, I certainly prefer it to Slow Jam, which just plods along and has that 'arithmetic' line in it. Very few redeeming features to that track, IMO.
Great reviews again that I agree with except RTS should have got one star!
I like Slow jam and always let it play when I listen to the album.
I’ve said many times GR is improved immensely if you replace RTS with one of the b sides from that time or HTS
As usual I will have to agree with Bernard. He makes arithmetic more fun simply by singing about it ,and when he includes birds ,skies,and beer I'm all in. Hey , calculus, cosmology ( not cosmetology) and astrophysics are more popular thanks to NO. And politics needs growling raunchy butch slapping monster jams,instead of hairy sissy little metal prancing gigolos emoting like goats Who in their right miind could possibly prefer noise by bc/dc, oxxy, metaldearh Julus prick ,or pissy bohunk. Me ,i like my hard noise by New Order. Just 2 more awesome songs by the fab 4, now fab 5
Someone Like You + Close Range reviews now posted.
...including a digression on the idea of a Substance II.
Someone Like You is a bit meh for me.It's not bad but it's not great either.Some likeable parts but not a life changing New Order song.And i always heard "we're children on holiday, here comes a cloud".Same with Close Range though i've often thought there's some great melodies & ideas not completely realised on that track.
Substance 2 wouldn't work IMHO.
Two more phenomenal songs, add to Crystal, PN, and VS, and SJ . SLY does reverberate, right into another universe and back. CR takes a journey to the past , and Hooky makes it beyond beautiful at the end, it could go on forever, a stellar ending . So, they just cranked out at least 5 phenomenal songs per album from brotherhood on , at least 3 per before , and several singles beyond belief during their sleep ,and added 5 or 6 more great songs per album. Unprecedented, never to be equaled . . Other bands simply haven't got what NO has . Plus ,some of the revenge and Monaco songs are excellent , and the 3 electronics and BL are treasures . There are popular stars out there who never created a song half as good as any from get ready, and they know who they are
Well, if keepitcoming feels Someone Like You is phenomenal who are we to argue. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder they say.
Though I was slightly startled to realise the last New Order “b side” was Such A Good Thing way back in 2002.
Yeah. The lack of post GR b-sides is a bit odd. Especially when you consider the wealth of unused material (at least by NO standards) the band had around the time of WFTSC.
Recoil, Shake It Up and California Grass, although not my favourite tracks on Lost Sirens, would have made reasonable / appropriate b-sides for Krafty, Jetstream and WFTSC. Would’ve been preferably to the plethora of (mostly superfluous) remixes that accompanied the single releases.
Perhaps the songs weren’t in a finished state at the time.
On the rare occasion I listen to Lost Sirens, I get the impression that none of the songs were in a finished state years later, at the time of release. :-/
I’m glad that Lost Sirens was released but I think I’d have rather the tracks had been included on a deluxe edition of WFTSC. Perhaps released 6-12 months or so after that LPs initial release.
I just don’t really feel that the tracks were good enough for an independent release.
Bonus tracks? Sure. Separate LP? Not so much.
Yes, you can always rely on KIC for sobre, reasoned comments based firmly in reality. There's a good album to be culled from WFTSC / LS (like RTP and its B-sides) but that's beer and Mel C time. I'd've preferred the tacks plus the full-length Cuntrol but...
Substance 2 was firsr mooted by Hooky in 94 but I've said that 47600479 times. I wouldn't be up for it because:
- ANOTHER rehash, 2 years on from their last 'proper' release? It's getting ridickless.
- It's been so up and down since then: offshoots, one-off collaborations, personnel / personal issues... There's mathematical satisfaction in Substance.
- I wouldn't.
Run Wild and the magic melodica is coming soon , and all those wonderful sirens, too. But, sadly I must cry another tear for all those gorgeous Eelectronic songs,and , Bad Loo Tenant songs, and Monaco and Revenge songs that may not get reviews. And In the Ghetto and Miracle Cure, oh my , it is truly a wonderful world when there are almost an infinite number of new order songs , at least a thousand years worth
Normally there is enough time in a lifetime to listen to one's favorite songs hundreds ,if not thousands of times, and even go off on tangents and explore a myriad of others' songs. With New Order more time is not just needed ,new order transcends the very fabric of the spacetime continuum, and luckily that is where paradise makes it all perfectly clear..Heavenly paradise on earth offers a thousand years to recapture the great music, film,art ,sex, and fun moments of our lives on earth , and then eternity comes and we can just run wild. So, there really is time after all to listen to New Order ,and all of their great songs , forever .and ever , thank God
Michael Monkhouse wrote: Run Wild's a tad wanky for me. HTS is NO by numbers. Too little Hooky again.
^^ nice & concise
That's the 2nd reference to "NO by numbers" in the feedback to HTS. Keen to know what is meant by that...
DR
Dennis Remmer wrote: That's the 2nd reference to "NO by numbers" in the feedback to HTS. Keen to know what is meant by that...
DR
I think it might actually be the third reference, although it was meant as a compliment by one of the blog commenters.
No negativity from me though. The intricacies and energy of the track combined with the melody and non- Indie Landfill vibe (which had been too prevelant on GR) meant that if felt like a new beginning after GR. Perhaps the nod to BM/Kraftwerk could be seen as a little backwards looking, but for me it seemed to set them back on a more interesting track, and quite frankly it made me feel alive. Still does.
Great song in a long unbroken line of great songs. I remember a girlfriend that had one thought about neworder's everyone everywhere -tinny. She actually liked listening to journey, foreigner and meatloaf, so of course she is history
Dennis Remmer wrote:
^^ nice & concise
That's what she said. It's a decent track by most people's standards but formula. PCL has great toons AND a sense of discovery.
My take on "New Order by numbers" in regard to HTS is that all the traditional elements of a New Order song are in there so it should be a great classic New Order song right? Except for all the effort to put in classic New Ordser song ingredients the song is well, IMHO, not great.Not bad, i mean don't get me wrong i enjoy it from time to time but it at times sounds a little flat and something that is difficult to pinpoint but it doesn't blow me away.Monkhouse had a good point re PCL and that that album had a sense of discovery.Here To Stay was kind of like them trying to go back and to recreate something like that , like they used to but i'd say they only half succeeded.
Run Wild has, like a lot of songs on Get Ready, likeable parts but it's ultimately a bit meh.I vaguely recall being quite impressed though with that version on the iTunes original thing but haven't listened to it in a long time.
The classic (not in that sense) example of a song with all the right ingredients but none of the suss is Young Offender. It has all the elements of Round and Round but somewhow never climaxes.
Player in the league, or PITL is up next ,and It is another football or sports song, #3 by my count.
NO is so good they have a monopoly on great sport /football songs.
I got to listening to Bow Wow Wow and Mazzy Starr again and got lost and forgot to listen to the SG's, aka spice girls( ,but as yet no spice lads ) BWW's Annabelle Lwin and Mazzy's Hope Sandoval , Tracy of Primitives, and Harriet Wheeler ,and Sarah Cracknell , and Anneli Drecker of bel canto are all older but still spicy . I have to acknowledge the superpowers of all new order members, ,they not only are better than other rock and roll bands, but way better and not boring like iron man Thor batman and hulk . What else? Bernard is probably still being wonderful , thinking of lyrics ,rhythms and exciting dancing trends , and healthy whoops ,and awesome guitar epics of exquisite taste,fire, seduction, and beauty beyond the infinite , and also just for being on Star Test, '93??
Player aka Field aka bag of shite has some charming music towards the end, but some of the worst lyrics the Barnster ever produced. It was gonna be on GR but rightly relegated to B-side - it woud've worked even less in the context of an erratically great LP. http://www.nme.com/news/music/new-order-133-1384295 Republic has strong lyrics, weak music; Get Ready, the reverse. Disgust. Electronic were all about studio, Revenge all about the stage. Disgust.
Player In The League has some really great moments. The outro is one of the best New Order have ever done. But yet again, another song of the Get Ready era fails to achieve legendary status. Still, there’s a lot of it I’ve always fairly enjoyed. A b-side suits ur about right; worth putting out but not an album.
