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Following Bernard's book, Peters turn of events is published in October.
I'm presuming he'll be doing a signing tour like he did with the last couple of books, but Recordstore are currently taking pre-orders for signed copies (just ordered one, I think the last signing he did in London sold out without me even hearing about it )
I know he's doing a tour of the US later this year, so I'm pretty sure he'll probably be doing promo events for the book as well. I'm actually looking forward to reading it, despite the joyless division between him and the group... buh dum tss.
I am writing a book about how New Order developed '80 - '83. It explains that they started out sounding similar to Joy Division as that was actually their previous form - did you know that the first single was indeed a Joy Division song? - but they livened up in 1982 with 'Temptation' and and were heavily influenced by New York disco in 1983. The book is called 'How many more fucking times? It's been 35 fucking years, has the fucking novelty still not fucking worn off you fucking fucker' and you can buy an unsigned copy on the Internet.
Michael Monkhouse wrote: I am writing a book about how New Order developed '80 - '83.
You should write one on why there are only 3 in Spice Girls 2016 ![[:d]](/emoticons/biggrin.gif){kind=small}
I shall not be giving Hook my coin for his latest "first class ticket, third rate view" outpouring.
On a positive note, I did quite enjoy Michael Butterworth's "Blue Monday Diaries" recently. It's clearly been padded out quite a bit but that's easily forgivable, considering the author & his appreciably different approach to the main body of the book.
I'm looking forward to the book. I freely admit the arguing has entertained me a bit. Of course a good resolution, such as reformation, is what most of us would ultimately like to see. However, what I'm really interested in is Peter talking about how the albums were made and his views on the music...
Michael Monkhouse wrote: The book is called 'How many more fucking times? It's been 35 fucking years, has the fucking novelty still not fucking worn off you fucking fucker' and you can buy an unsigned copy on the Internet.
Childish I know, but for some reason the above makes me think of this Southpark clip:
poisoned snickers 2015 wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote: I am writing a book about how New Order developed '80 - '83.
You should write one on why there are only 3 in Spice Girls 2016
Some of the Spice Girls are getting back together 'to say thank you to the fans.... It's a gift, a present, a party and you're all invited!' Aren't they generous?... How much are the fucking tickets again?
Now before we start yet another chain of Hooky bashing here, I remember him saying that his new book is actually going to reveal a lot of the recording details for each album. I do music production with synthesizers as a hobby, so I'm really excited to read all the little nerdy creative details which helped inspire certain songs from a music tech point of view. Barney touched a little upon this in his book (talking about the process of creating Blue Monday with him and Morris spending hours programming everything), so if the book is filled with stuff like that, it could be a very inspiring read. For all we know, many of the New Order songs simply started out with a bass line first, much like the Joy Division material. Hooky probably knows a little synth programming too (for example: The Happy One).
Moderne Decay wrote: I do music production with synthesizers as a hobby, so I'm really excited to read all the little nerdy creative details which helped inspire certain songs from a music tech point of view. .
Same here. I bet New Order have inspired a lot of people to record themselves...
I'm looking forward to the book because I like reading books of people moaning like fuck about things. This is why I enjoyed Johnny Rottens book.
Coops wrote: I'm looking forward to the book because I like reading books of people moaning like fuck about things. This is why I enjoyed Johnny Rottens book.
I know he has a few books out now. The only one I have is "Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" which I thought was really great. Yeah, quite an angry and opinionated fella, but that's the definition of punk in a nutshell.
Rorschach wrote: I shall not be giving Hook my coin for his latest "first class ticket, third rate view" outpouring.
On a positive note, I did quite enjoy Michael Butterworth's "Blue Monday Diaries" recently. It's clearly been padded out quite a bit but that's easily forgivable, considering the author & his appreciably different approach to the main body of the book.
Just finished reading it. Not bad at all. with all rock journalism, it's 1/3 "me,me,me" , 1/3 gossip "rob sent me out for bacon butties and a big bag of weed..." and 1/3 anorak details on dmx's and emu2s
Cranelane wrote: Substance
Has the cover been posted yet? If not then here it is.
Hooky talking out of his arse then
Fotzepolitic wrote:
Cranelane wrote: Substance
Has the cover been posted yet? If not then here it is.
Hooky talking out of his arse then
he's just blocked me on twitter for saying its a very apt cover as no doubt he'll be talking out of his arse!
i have to give you credit for the pun though as i nicked it
You guy's nearly made me spit coffee out on my computer screen right now. This is seriously the funniest thing I've read all day. Now assuming he's doing a book tour, it's going to be very difficult to keep a straight face if I meet him in person to get an autograph. I should carry a silver ink pen and ask him politely to sign it directly above the bass, haha!
Rorschach wrote: On a positive note, I did quite enjoy Michael Butterworth's "Blue Monday Diaries" recently. It's clearly been padded out quite a bit but that's easily forgivable, considering the author & his appreciably different approach to the main body of the book.
pure_shaw wrote: Just finished reading it. Not bad at all. with all rock journalism, it's 1/3 "me,me,me" , 1/3 gossip "rob sent me out for bacon butties and a big bag of weed..." and 1/3 anorak details on dmx's and emu2s
Fantastic book. Really felt like I was at Brit Row hanging with them, just fascinating account of how they work together in the studio, and what drugs they consumed. Though I feel like Hooky told Michael he couldn't divulge on him, cause he is the only one in the book who seems to be a saint with all that...
Seriously tho, what a voyeuristic read. Felt like 1983 for the entire week I was reading that. +++
And if you look closely at the cover, you'll notice that the words "Inside New Order" are in the shadow of Hooky's arse. They say you should never judge a book by its cover, but it's all very symbolic. [eek2]
Moderne Decay wrote:
Coops wrote: I'm looking forward to the book because I like reading books of people moaning like fuck about things. This is why I enjoyed Johnny Rottens book.
I know he has a few books out now. The only one I have is "Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" which I thought was really great. Yeah, quite an angry and opinionated fella, but that's the definition of punk in a nutshell.
There's mention of NO in his latest book. He talks about the tour with pil, sugarcubes, NO and how Barney was so drunk he had to be wheeled onto the stage. He seems complimentary towards them now but I remember him being very ugly at the time - 1989. In an interview w/ mtv during that tour he said sugarcubes were ok but NO were no good and only doing it for the money. Typical Lydon
Emh wrote:
Moderne Decay wrote:
Coops wrote: I'm looking forward to the book because I like reading books of people moaning like fuck about things. This is why I enjoyed Johnny Rottens book.
I know he has a few books out now. The only one I have is "Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" which I thought was really great. Yeah, quite an angry and opinionated fella, but that's the definition of punk in a nutshell.
There's mention of NO in his latest book. He talks about the tour with pil, sugarcubes, NO and how Barney was so drunk he had to be wheeled onto the stage. He seems complimentary towards them now but I remember him being very ugly at the time - 1989. In an interview w/ mtv during that tour he said sugarcubes were ok but NO were no good and only doing it for the money. Typical Lydon
I'll have to check that book out then. What's funny is that the some of the best New Order gigs are when Sumner is totally sloshed. When I saw them in Oakland a decade ago, I remember him being a bit drunk, falling over and then tossing his guitar into the air. It was a riot!
Emh wrote:
Moderne Decay wrote:
Coops wrote: I'm looking forward to the book because I like reading books of people moaning like fuck about things. This is why I enjoyed Johnny Rottens book.
I know he has a few books out now. The only one I have is "Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" which I thought was really great. Yeah, quite an angry and opinionated fella, but that's the definition of punk in a nutshell.
There's mention of NO in his latest book. He talks about the tour with pil, sugarcubes, NO and how Barney was so drunk he had to be wheeled onto the stage. He seems complimentary towards them now but I remember him being very ugly at the time - 1989. In an interview w/ mtv during that tour he said sugarcubes were ok but NO were no good and only doing it for the money. Typical Lydon
I recall an MTV interview with Lydon from that tour where he said "New Order take more drugs than the Grateful Dead."
Over the course of a whopping 768 pages, Hook offers up a “no-holds-barred, comprehensive account of the band’s entire history,” according to an Amazon description. It comes “packed with outrageous anecdotes and including every set list and tour itinerary and interspersed with ‘geek facts’ of every piece of electronic equipment used to forge the sound that changed the direction of popular music.”
Wow, I'm really beginning to get excited about this now I must say.
tarbox23 wrote:
Fantastic book. Really felt like I was at Brit Row hanging with them, just fascinating account of how they work together in the studio, and what drugs they consumed. Though I feel like Hooky told Michael he couldn't divulge on him, cause he is the only one in the book who seems to be a saint with all that...
More saintly than Gillian? She never struck me as a drug taker, but I haven't read the book...
Andy wrote: I recall an MTV interview with Lydon from that tour where he said "New Order take more drugs than the Grateful Dead."
When I saw PIL live a few years ago, I remember seeing Lydon taking sips from a bottle of booze between songs, swishing it in his mouth, then spitting it out in a bucket. If that was supposed to count as sobriety for him, it was really gross to watch. It was still a great show, but I can't get that visual piece out of my head. At the very least, he could have sipped on a non-alcoholic beer or something. You'd be amazed how many bars and venues actually have them if you ask.
Andy wrote:
Emh wrote:
Moderne Decay wrote:
Coops wrote: I'm looking forward to the book because I like reading books of people moaning like fuck about things. This is why I enjoyed Johnny Rottens book.
I know he has a few books out now. The only one I have is "Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" which I thought was really great. Yeah, quite an angry and opinionated fella, but that's the definition of punk in a nutshell.
There's mention of NO in his latest book. He talks about the tour with pil, sugarcubes, NO and how Barney was so drunk he had to be wheeled onto the stage. He seems complimentary towards them now but I remember him being very ugly at the time - 1989. In an interview w/ mtv during that tour he said sugarcubes were ok but NO were no good and only doing it for the money. Typical Lydon
I recall an MTV interview with Lydon from that tour where he said "New Order take more drugs than the Grateful Dead."
My recollection is that Lydon was complementary to NO on one point - when they were the headliners (they would switch on different dates) NO would give him a reasonable time to do his sound check. Most ridiculous press name for that tour - "monsters of art rock."
Debaser wrote:
tarbox23 wrote:
Fantastic book. Really felt like I was at Brit Row hanging with them, just fascinating account of how they work together in the studio, and what drugs they consumed. Though I feel like Hooky told Michael he couldn't divulge on him, cause he is the only one in the book who seems to be a saint with all that...
More saintly than Gillian? She never struck me as a drug taker, but I haven't read the book...
might want to read the book... they were in their 20s.
having a bit of fun in the studio shouldn't be a surprise --- i appreciated the sincerity in his documentation of the daily runs out to procure certain substances. not a surprise to anyone who has followed the band.
and yet knowing more about the individual proclivities and fuel for the album is enlightening and adds a new dimension because for so many years there was essentially no description obtainable about life in this era.
their interviews in the early 80s were pretty scarce and taciturn.
