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I had to scale down the hosting because it was costing me a ridiculous 125$/month which is way too high. We'll see how it goes.
If this keeps up I might have to finally pull the plug, something I have been avoiding out of nostalgia for a while.
I'll do my best, we'll know by the end of the month, I think I managed to cut it by half, we'll see how it goes.
It would be a shame for the plug to be pulled. Although I’ve only really been posting regularly for a few months, I’ve been a long time lurker. I would certainly miss this place.
I guess most fans communicate through Facebook now.
I'll be sad to see it go but if it's costing you money, Spotnick then maybe it's time indeed to finally let it go. Nothing lasts forever n all that. I'll miss the place but maybe it's time to shut it down.
I too would be sad to see the old girl go but there are tonnes of New Order groups on Facebook which are far more active than here.
The recent spam influx has kind of shown it's no longer really fit for purpose either.
Perhaps the time has come.
NotAMod wrote: I too would be sad to see the old girl go but there are tonnes of New Order groups on Facebook which are far more active than here.
Any you can recommend worth following?
The Hook Substance book thread had 288 replies and over 42k views. That's not bad. Do these other NO groups on FB get those sort of numbers?
Spotnick wrote: If this keeps up I might have to finally pull the plug, something I have been avoiding out of nostalgia for a while.
That would be a great shame - donations needed? Given the site's importance to NO and all the other bands over the years, maybe a contribution request wouldn't go astray... Hell we should all chip-in as well. What's your cost breakdown - as $125/month seems pretty high $$$.
Should I re-ignite the Ceremony email list ... how retro would that be ![[uhoh]](/emoticons/uhh.gif){kind=small}
FB... I've resisted Zuckerberg's will for this long, no intention of starting now.
Dennis Remmer wrote:
Spotnick wrote: If this keeps up I might have to finally pull the plug, something I have been avoiding out of nostalgia for a while.
That would be a great shame - donations needed? Given the site's importance to NO and all the other bands over the years, maybe a contribution request wouldn't go astray... Hell we should all chip-in as well. What's your cost breakdown - as $125/month seems pretty high $$$.
Should I re-ignite the Ceremony email list ... how retro would that be
FB... I've resisted Zuckerberg's will for this long, no intention of starting now.
Agreed...I'd be sad to see it go and if donations are needed let us know.
Ahhh Ceremony....good times :)
I for one hope it stays. Some kind of crowd funding maybe, I would also contribute. I don’t like face book personally.
This is the site I most”y us3 when it comes to all things New Order.
Here to stay?
Had no idea the hosting charges were as much as this. Considering how little you use this place Nik, you've been overly generous. Donations are fine, but I suspect there would need to be fund raising every 6 months or so and people would get bored of this fairly quickly. Don't see that as a sustainable option.
If everyone de-camped to the NOOL facebook page, would it make much difference to what there is now?
Ten years ago I would surf from forum to forum now there's only this and one other remaining that I visit - everything else has been replaced by social media. Time to go with the flow.
FB groups are very difficult to read and follow. FB employees don't seem to know how to sort posts by date... Ceremony mailing list would be far better.
I spend $11 a month to host my website, which gets a lot of traffic because of downloads. Is there not a possibility of moving hosts, utilizing a ready-made forum template (you'd said once you coded this by hand), or monetizing the site?
Sign of the times, isn't it? Much like others I used to jump from band forum to band forum but now nobody bothers as Facebook has taken over. Whilst I am on Facebook for pictures of peoples lunch and funny puddy cats etc I don't particularly enjoy band pages.
So I guess that's that. Thanks to Spotnik for spunking up his own cash to keep this running as long as it has.
I had no idea this site was costing Spotnick anything like that.
NOOL has been my primary Neworder info source since the Ceremony mailing list went cold. I've benefitted greatly from the shared insight of others on here (& Michael Monkhouse)
I'd hate to see the same fate visited upon these forums but don't expect infinite charity from Spotnick - happy to chip in a subscription if it becomes an option.
There's a lot of useful and unique information on the wider site, as well as buried in the forum (and the old forum) that it would be a shame to lose. But those hosting costs seem way, way too high. Is that competitive with other hosters? is it mostly bandwidth?
Add me to the list of those surprised by the monthly cost.
Is there a massive, hidden porn component that's driving the fee's up? This would explain the unrelenting visitations of Monkhouse...
If I send a check to pay for a month ,then at least the site can continue through the year. There are lots of old topics still untouched, and the next 6 years should bring gobs of new songs on all the formats, cassettes too , though great for editing bad parts of other band's songs , not really necessary for neworder songs . Music for great, moody , noir, sci-fi films by the band and Hooky's band
Peter playing Revenge and Monaco live
Secret tours, with 3 sets of 10 songs each
Guessing whether the next album will have titles that match the songs,
The band moves to Lake Powell
Another soccer song success, a baccarole , a classical sonata
More film soundtracks
Electronic live
New Order Aston Martin Rocket Bus,and New Order Alfa Romeo Ricottis from 1914 and 1915 recreated.
The New Order Open golf championship of Greenland , with live shows Wednesday thru Saturday night on icebergs.
New Order 2 week Trip to Jupiter and beyond the infinite
and New Order museum and casino at lake powell , arizona
and a Love New Order Day of Peace , with singing of the new and beautiful neworder hymn, and a rousing synth septet
Action figures of various stages of Joy Division and New Order, plus the domestic side action fugures, with the band cleaning house, shopping , going on naughty escapades and keen to try some suggestive poses. And songs just keep coming
And the Jessica alba / neworder handbags, and NO walking sticks with their cute heads on top, And a tour as the heavy metal band from Touched By The Hand of GOD video. Plus so much more , a lifetime hardly scratches the surface of new order ..let us pitch in and herald the dawn of more new ordereverything, including this site , and a documentary about the depth of live for New Order, I can send my nephew $ 125.00, and he canhide it in a jar in Hyde park or primrose hill with cryptic secret code on this site revealing the location
I visit this site everyday and 4 to 5 times and hour when I am at work, I will miss it if it goes, so many years of interesting topics and posting so many things, learning about things that I didn't know about the band, surely will miss it, I hope it does not shut down.
I've been checking it more now to see if it's been shut down yet, what's that all about?
Also, put me down for a set of action figures, but not ones of Phil and that other one, nobody will want them ones.
yeah, whats up with the hosting cost. should be other places out there...
anyways, this forum is still going, but ever since the last album, there really isn't much to talk about nowadays, besides the occasional tour or interview.
maybe it's time to take a break.
besides, it would give that one guy, who keeps posting in every topic something else to do....
won't be missing that part...
later -1
B a sad day if this goes thanks Nick for keeping it going see monkhouse has gone already ,, spliter.
It’s such a strange day
It was what like 18 years? I spent quite a time of my life on here, so it's like part of me. But if it goes, I'll understand.
Shall we just start afresh a new group on Facebook / Instagram? Preferably closed (don't wanna be seen caught in some shitstorm, like we had here - fond memories, of course).
No Barcode wrote: Shall we just start afresh a new group on Facebook / Instagram? Preferably closed (don't wanna be seen caught in some shitstorm, like we had here - fond memories, of course).
So long as we are expressing our opinions, let me say that's the exact opposite of what I'd like.
Andy wrote: Add me to the list of those surprised by the monthly cost.
Is there a massive, hidden porn component that's driving the fee's up? This would explain the unrelenting visitations of Monkhouse...
That is disrespectful to the Spice Girls. FB fanpages are AWFUL.
I meant financially... What's the difference between sledgehammers for Miley and money for me? Miley won't put her money where her mouth is.
If you can't afford to keep this going, or plain and simply don't think its worth spending any more money on, then fair enough, thanks for all the effort and money you've invested in this place - hope it keeps going, there is nowhere else (online anyway) I know of that you can have some sort of semi civilised conversation about New Order, as per the previous comments, the Facebook page is a shambles. If this does shut down, its been a pleasure knowing you all. Maybe we can get some of those trainer selling, spamming bastards to sink some money into here?
This is the best Spice Girls forum on the Web....
Hopefully you can keep it going.....
:-)
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
I actually unsubscribed from all fanpages (except Mel C's official page) when I realised
That's why I propose a closed group on FB, to avoid those kinds of posts.
How about asking Hooky to chip in on the running costs, now he's got a bit more spare cash knocking about? He's had plenty of free publicity for his books off the back of this site over the years... ;o)
If the end truly is nigh, I can only add my support to the formation of a closed NOOL group on Facebook. The existing ones are becoming increasingly full of fuckwits (in among the genuinely decent sorts, obv).
It's not just NO fanpages but 90% of pages. I'm not a snob, but after researching Ingmar Bergman for 5 years, do I really need to log on and read, 'hey giys, whats the name of thats ingrid burgman film where the dude plays scrabble with mr death??? sounfds AWEOME!!!'?
I'm also questioning the $125/month hosting I have two sites - one costs me €9.90/month, the other is €180/year for fairly unlimited hosting so no matter the exchange rates, 125/month seems crazy!
I would also be willing to throw some cash at the problem. This is one of the last forums around and i'm so thankful for that. Us geezers need excitement and FB groups aren't doing much of that. Although I am in two KLF groups that have been clashing for about a year.
Low Life wrote: How about asking Hooky to chip in on the running costs, now he's got a bit more spare cash knocking about? He's had plenty of free publicity for his books off the back of this site over the years... ;o)
If the end truly is nigh, I can only add my support to the formation of a closed NOOL group on Facebook. The existing ones are becoming increasingly full of fuckwits (in among the genuinely decent sorts, obv).
You wanna try moderating them, its a NIGHTMARE!
We try our best though.
Mr Discography wrote:
NotAMod wrote: I too would be sad to see the old girl go but there are tonnes of New Order groups on Facebook which are far more active than here.
Any you can recommend worth following?
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=neworderweb.net
https://www.facebook.com/Factory.Records/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/192303677459939/ JD/NO/ELectronic
https://www.facebook.com/groups/91583020688/ / New Order
Thanks for the other sites to check out .Thanks to everyone here for everything , and as Dennis has more reviews for us, constant and never ending thanks to him. And thanks to new order, better than all the rest .And may the spice be with you
