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i have been getting some US longbox releases (opened)

apparently they go for hundreds if sealed:

new order - substance 2xcd https://www.discogs.com/release/22789073-New-Order-Substance

new order - power corruption and lies https://www.discogs.com/release/5526319-New-Order-Power-Corruption-Lies

new order - technique https://www.discogs.com/release/5490359-Neworder-Technique

joy division - substance https://www.discogs.com/release/17490838-Joy-Division-Substance

i don't have these though:

low life movement brotherhood married to the mob

later -1

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negative1 wrote: i have been getting some US longbox releases (opened)

apparently they go for hundreds if sealed:

It's an interesting thing to collect (I ripped open plenty of those back in the day). They were essentially a packaging solution for stores to stock compact discs utilizing the same shelving units that were used for 12" vinyl. It helped stores transition to the new format without having to invest as much money. The profit margins were so high for the record labels back then, that this extra bit added to the packaging cost wasn't a concern.

I believe I only bought Substance and Technique in these. I had the imported Factory releases otherwise, and I'm pretty sure longboxes were history by the time of Republic.

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negative1 wrote: Got the 4xlp Singles boxset. had to open it up to see the inserts, and covers.

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Recently got the japanese reissue CD as a birthday gift. Don't feel like unsealing it for now, since I got the 24-bit download.

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finally got the canadian cassette 'substance sides' which matches that artwork (sort of, with a solid leaf though):

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got this argentinian repress of PCL, (after a false start, another store sent me the UK one).

this comes with a cool booklet in spanish, will scan, and maybe translate?

https://www.discogs.com/release/21930376-New-Order-Power-Corruption-Lies

Manufactured in Argentina 2022 Include Booklet with 12 Pages full color in spanish by Diario La Nación Serie "Vinilos de Colección" also, i kept the stamps for fun:

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negative1 wrote: FINALLY, after 8 years of looking, and it only coming up 4 times (including last month).

i managed to track down the bbc live wooden box. (it doesn't have the card with the number though):

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Was anyone quick enough to scoop up one of the super rare People On The High Line” 12” singles hidden in the Mute online sale last weekend? Happened overnight for me and couldn’t believe they had some copies left to sell.

I was quick enough to land a Restless 12” promo which aren’t easy to come by, and fetch a bit on resell now.

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depthcharge wrote: Was anyone quick enough to scoop up one of the super rare People On The High Line” 12” singles hidden in the Mute online sale last weekend? Happened overnight for me and couldn’t believe they had some copies left to sell.

I was quick enough to land a Reckless 12” promo which aren’t easy to come by, and fetch a bit on resell now.

which people on the high line? the clear 12 inch? the white one, the picture disc.

also i think you meant restless.

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negative1 wrote:

depthcharge wrote: Was anyone quick enough to scoop up one of the super rare People On The High Line” 12” singles

which people on the high line? the clear 12 inch? the white one, the picture disc.

Super rare = Clear uncut 12"

I've seen them go for US$250-$350, but they rarely change hands.

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new order 2022 recap.

had a good year with new order releases, they are still in my top 10 bands of items.

got a few rarities, here and there. mostly just releases i didn't have the UK versions of

new order

cdr promo

Arthur Baker Vs New Order - Confusion (Remixes '02) (CDr, Promo) New Order - Here To Stay (CDr, Single, Promo) New Order - World (CD, Single, Promo)

super rare and hard to find for me boxset

New Order - BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert (CD, Album, Ltd, Wood)

cd singles

New Order - Be A Rebel (CD, Single) New order - Round&remix (CD, Mini, Single) GER

7 inch

new order - procession (7 inch, black) New Order - Round & Round (7", Single)

12 inch singles

New Order - Confusion (12", Single) Europe New Order - Crystal (Bedrock Remixes) (12", Single, Promo) New Order - Krafty (12", Single) New Order - Murder (12") JAPAN New Order - Shellshock (Extended Version) (12", Maxi) (A&M Records - 392086-1) GREEK New Order - Someone Like You (2x12", Promo) New Order - State Of The Nation (12") spain New Order - State Of The Nation (12", Maxi) (Factory, Virgin, Virgin - FAC 153, VG 2073 Z, VG 2073Z) GREEK New Order - True Faith Remix (12", Single)

cassette

New Order - Fine Time (Cass, Single, Dol) New Order - Regret (Cass, Single, SR,) New Order - Substance Sides (Cass, Comp)

cd albums

New Order - Get Ready (CD, Album) New Order - Get Ready (CD, Album, Promo, Car) New Order - International (CD, Comp) New Order - Interview (CD, Promo) New Order - Low-life (CD, Album, RE) New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies (CD, Album, Longbox) New Order - substance 2xCD (longbox) New Order - Waiting For The Sirens' Call (CD, Album)

LP

New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies (LP, Album, RE, RM, 180) UK

dvd single

New Order - Here To Stay (DVD-V, Single, PAL)

vhs

New Order - Substance 1989 (VHS, Comp, NTSC)

side

this had the original version of crystal Corvin Dalek - Crystal (12", W/Lbl)

this is a hard techno cover of blue monday: Electroset - How Does It Feel? (Theme From Techno Blues) (Cass, Single) Electroset - How Does It Feel? (Theme From Techno Blues) (7", Single)

a few soundtracks: Various - Empire State (LP) Various - Salvation (Original Soundtrack) (CD, Album) Various - Music From The Film Married To The Mob (Cass, Comp)

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negative1 wrote:

had a good year with new order releases, they are still in my top 10 bands of items.

There are another NINE bands you collect this much stuff for?

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this is a hard techno cover of blue monday: Electroset - How Does It Feel? (Theme From Techno Blues) (Cass, Single) Electroset - How Does It Feel? (Theme From Techno Blues) (7", Single)

A cover that contained direct samples of the original, along with samples of Prodigy's Everybody In The Place, as per WhoSampled. I remember thinking at the time that it sounded like The Prodigy covering NO. It used to get played regularly in the late night slots on MTV Europe back in '92.

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negative1 wrote: new order 2022 recap.

had a good year with new order releases, they are still in my top 10 bands of items.

got a few rarities, here and there. mostly just releases i didn't have the UK versions of

new order

cdr promo

Arthur Baker Vs New Order - Confusion (Remixes '02) (CDr, Promo) New Order - Here To Stay (CDr, Single, Promo) New Order - World (CD, Single, Promo)

super rare and hard to find for me boxset

New Order - BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert (CD, Album, Ltd, Wood)

cd singles

New Order - Be A Rebel (CD, Single) New order - Round&remix (CD, Mini, Single) GER

7 inch

new order - procession (7 inch, black) New Order - Round & Round (7", Single)

12 inch singles

New Order - Confusion (12", Single) Europe New Order - Crystal (Bedrock Remixes) (12", Single, Promo) New Order - Krafty (12", Single) New Order - Murder (12") JAPAN New Order - Shellshock (Extended Version) (12", Maxi) (A&M Records - 392086-1) GREEK New Order - Someone Like You (2x12", Promo) New Order - State Of The Nation (12") spain New Order - State Of The Nation (12", Maxi) (Factory, Virgin, Virgin - FAC 153, VG 2073 Z, VG 2073Z) GREEK New Order - True Faith Remix (12", Single)

cassette

New Order - Fine Time (Cass, Single, Dol) New Order - Regret (Cass, Single, SR,) New Order - Substance Sides (Cass, Comp)

cd albums

New Order - Get Ready (CD, Album) New Order - Get Ready (CD, Album, Promo, Car) New Order - International (CD, Comp) New Order - Interview (CD, Promo) New Order - Low-life (CD, Album, RE) New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies (CD, Album, Longbox) New Order - substance 2xCD (longbox) New Order - Waiting For The Sirens' Call (CD, Album)

LP

New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies (LP, Album, RE, RM, 180) UK

dvd single

New Order - Here To Stay (DVD-V, Single, PAL)

vhs

New Order - Substance 1989 (VHS, Comp, NTSC)

side

this had the original version of crystal Corvin Dalek - Crystal (12", W/Lbl)

this is a hard techno cover of blue monday: Electroset - How Does It Feel? (Theme From Techno Blues) (Cass, Single) Electroset - How Does It Feel? (Theme From Techno Blues) (7", Single)

a few soundtracks: Various - Empire State (LP) Various - Salvation (Original Soundtrack) (CD, Album) Various - Music From The Film Married To The Mob (Cass, Comp)

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Some nice acquisitions there. Congrats.

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Debaser wrote:

negative1 wrote:

had a good year with new order releases, they are still in my top 10 bands of items.

There are another NINE bands you collect this much stuff for?

last year, i bought 60 items for new order, this year its about half that.

here's a comparison of other bands i collect for 2021-2022

20211	Depeche Mode	882	New Order	603	Ultravox	514	Duran Duran 	465	Underworld 	346	Pet Shop Boys	307	Thompson Twins 	298	Flock of Seagulls 	279	Big Country 	23	Simple Minds 	2310	Frazier Chorus	21
20221	Simple Minds	692	Thompson Twins	673	Depeche Mode	574	Pet Shop Boys	525	ABC	496	Duran Duran	46	Ultravox	467	Erasure	448	Go West	439	Kraftwerk	4110	New Order	35	Underworld	35

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negative1 wrote: here's the very busy promo poster for singles...

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complete with 1988 Brazilian "Tutti Frutti" promo 12" sleeve image, which never should have been on there IMHO.

EDIT oops, I mean '89. I don't think I've ever heard these medleys/Megamixes


so 2 years ago, i posted that... and as of last month 2 copies of the 12 inch were up on discogs.

1 with a generic sleeve, and one with the picture cover.

got the picture cover one, should be here in a few weeks.

2 things

1 will digitize the the tracks, and post them 2 will try to recreate the poster with all the original items, or as close as possible. some of the scaling is weird, so some will be full vinyl, some cd's, etc.

that should be fun.

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Will be interested to hear the tracks. Thanks.

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here is a 'bizarre' one from new order

tutti frutti 89 - from brazil

basically 2 megamixes.

this single came up, because it was used(weirdly) on one of the promo posters for the 'singles' release.

i kept wondering what it was.

anyways, i wasn't expecting much, but both mixes are actually decent.

the quality of the pressing is not so great.

but anyways... https://www.discogs.com/release/3646412-Various-Tutti-Frutti-89-Promo-N%C2%BA-04-Disco-01

the second one has an intro - some talking, and duran durans new religion ..

later -1

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here are the wave file (cleaned up) transferred:

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Download link https://we.tl/t-2Ekg6MiIkM

1 item no-tut89.zip 113 MB

Message no mega 89

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Many thanks for these, -1.

As mega mixes go, they aren't too bad. Good to have, anyway.

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ok, here's my attempt at new order bingo.

i tried to match all the items on the posters with physical versions.

the scale on the poster is big, small, and doesn't match up correctly with most.

one of the posters for the new order singles reference:

here is my attempt, with many items shifted around to make room

here are the items matched up

here's the listing.

new order----------singles poster items======================movement (cd)      regret (cd single)  procession (brown 7) true faith 94 (cds)  blue monday 12thieves like us 12    confusion 12  get ready LP  factus 8 - CD EP  low life CDbrotherhood LP   spooky CD   1963-94 CDS  perfect kiss 12  low life CD             state of the nation 12  technique LP  jetstream UK CD2   republic LP             run 2-12  ceremony-blue white  here to stay UK CD1   substance LP fine time CDS   ruined in a day CDStouched by the hand of God CDS  world in motion CDS  murder 12     jetstream US promo CD   rest of CD - Japanbest of CD  blue monday 95 cds1  tutti frutti 12   true faith 12    world 12power corruption lies 12     international CD  blue monday 88 CDS   1963 uk 12 promo                retro boxset       krafty cds    round and round CDS

a lot of times, i substituted US versions, promos, japanese ones, and remasters..

i think you can figure them out.

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negative1 wrote: someone here mentioned this compilation, so i got a copy on cd, still need the 2xlp:

https://www.discogs.com/release/21948457-Various-The-Longest-Day-A-Benefit-For-The-Alzheimers-Association

8 New Order– Nothing But A Fool (Extended Mix 2) 7:43

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People have a hard time comparing the Music Complete tracks to their classic output. For me, this song and "Singularity" are easily in their top 25 for me when I try and take nostalgia out of the equation. They really are great tracks.

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here are the 5 commercial releases of murder

belgium, japan 85 european reissue, 89 european reissue 2020 european

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There's a True Faith Qwest/US promo CD going on eBay for £151:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256014578148

The Morning Sun Remix/edit remains exclusive to this promo on CD and 7", right?

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I have both the promo and the CDV. The promo's 4:15 "Album Edit" is the exclusive track. I do notice the "Morning Sun Remix/Edit" has a slightly different runtime on each disc (listed as "7 inch" on CDV). They sound the same to me but the promo track runs 4:10 while the CDV version ends at 4:05.

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Andy wrote: The promo's 4:15 "Album Edit" is the exclusive track.

Don’t think I knew this and have never heard it. Does it differ much from the standard 7”?

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perspexorange wrote:

Andy wrote: The promo's 4:15 "Album Edit" is the exclusive track.

Don’t think I knew this and have never heard it. Does it differ much from the standard 7”?

It is the 7" - the same version that's on the 'Singles' double CD. So was a digital exclusive at the time, but not these days.

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Pedantry corner, but the 7" version was (re)released on 'Total' in 2011 before the Singles reissue 5 years later.

Nice to have - the Qwest TF promo CD - if you have one. Still fetches a reasonable amount.

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NotAMod wrote: Pedantry corner, but the 7" version was (re)released on 'Total' in 2011 before the Singles reissue 5 years later.

Ah yeah, forgot about that - cheers!

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got the other singles poster for new order

it's more aligned, but still odd or wrong. its not all 12 inches. they also left off murder.

they used procession 7, temptation 7 inch, spooky cd single, waiting for the sirens call 7

and here are some other ones i put up:

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