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I had all of these at one time, but I sold them. I stopped being a completist a long time ago, and only consider Factory/London/Warners/Rhino/Mute to be official releases (i.e. I'm not arsed by unique edits from different countries, etc. Those are not how the band envisioned the songs, or intended for them to be released). These were licensed and put out by New State.

Pretty sure all the remixes exclusive to this series showed up on a promo CD-R. The tracks ripped to my library are sourced from digital, not vinyl.

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50poundnote wrote: I had all of these at one time, but I sold them. I stopped being a completist a long time ago, and only consider Factory/London/Warners/Rhino/Mute to be official releases (i.e. I'm not arsed by unique edits from different countries, etc. Those are not how the band envisioned the songs, or intended for them to be released). These were licensed and put out by New State.

Pretty sure all the remixes exclusive to this series showed up on a promo CD-R. The tracks ripped to my library are sourced from digital, not vinyl.

there were several promo cd'rs:

https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-5-Tracks/release/841876

New Order ‎– 5 Tracks Label: Warner Bros. Records ‎– none Format: CDr, Sampler, Promo Country: UK Released: 2005 Genre: Electronic, Pop Style: Electro, Downtempo, Synth-pop, Tech House TracklistShow Credits 1 Bizarre Love Triangle (Richard X Remix Full Length) 7:06 2 Everything's Gone Green (Martin Buttrich Remix) 4:57 3 Temptation (Secret Machines Remix Full Length) 7:27 4 Everything's Gone Green (Cicada Remix) 4:36 5 Waiting For The Sirens' Call (Jackniffe Lee Remix) 4:12 Total Time: 28:18

https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Classic-Mixes/release/849353

New Order ‎– Classic Mixes Label: London Records ‎– none Format: CDr, Promo, Sampler Country: UK Released: 2005 Genre: Electronic, Rock, Pop Style: Alternative Rock, House, Electro, Progressive House, Synth-pop TracklistShow Credits 1 Blue Monday (Original 88 Version) 7:31 2 Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone Remix) 6:43 3 True Faith (Shep Pettibone Remix) 9:05 4 Thieves Like Us (12" Extended) 6:44 Total Time: 30:03

https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-B-Sides-Remixes/release/857000 New Order ‎– B-Sides Remixes Label: Warner Bros. Records ‎– none Format: CDr, Promo Country: UK Released: 2005 Genre: Electronic, Pop Style: Electro, Downtempo, Synth-pop, Tech House TracklistShow Credits 1 Temptation (Secret Machines Remix) 4:40 2 Everything's Gone Green (Cicada Remix) 4:36 3 Bizarre Love Triangle (Richard X Remix) 4:19 Total Time: 13:35

https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Electro-House-Mixes/release/849400

New Order ‎– Electro House Mixes Label: London Records ‎– none Format: CDr, Promo, Sampler Country: UK Released: 2005 Genre: Electronic, Pop Style: Progressive House, Electro, Deep House, Tech House TracklistShow Credits 1 Regret (Tocadisco Remix) 5:59 2 Regret (Tocadisco Dub) 5:43 3 True Faith (King Roc Remix) 8:21 4 Jetstream (Jacques Lu Cont Dub) 8:36 5 Waiting For The Sirens Call (Asle Dub) 9:24 Total Time: 38:03

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Rorschach wrote: 12x12" was a nice collection but I have as much use for vinyl as I do fishing waders.

I would've bought all 12 on CD and for a while held a faint hope that TPOIT might give them 'the treatment' but alas.

What's TPOIT?

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What's TPOIT?

The Power of Independent Trucking blog, run by Drew Crumbaugh, who was involved in the Recycle project. Although he did the odd thing like the Get Ready premixes, he's not much interested in remixes - or really anything past Technique - so it's not likely he would have shared them.

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negative1 wrote: here is my japanese single collection.. 5 so far:

temptation, confusion, thieves like us, the perfect kiss, and subculture. like how they print the lyrics on the back of the obi.

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Nice start to a collection. I love Japanese pressings and was on a completist mission for a while.

And then of course there's this interesting item...

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Occidental wrote:

negative1 wrote: here is my japanese single collection.. 5 so far:

temptation, confusion, thieves like us, the perfect kiss, and subculture. like how they print the lyrics on the back of the obi.

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Nice start to a collection. I love Japanese pressings and was on a completist mission for a while.

And then of course there's this interesting item...

dang dude, that probably cost more to get, than all my collection put together.

love the japanese releases. i don't have the DJ compilation either. maybe somewhere down the road.

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not exactly new order, but i've been beefing up my 'electronic' collection.

i didn't know the 12 inch for 'late at night' was withdrawn, i thought it was just both the cd-singles (which i have). so i ended up getting that too.

https://www.discogs.com/Electronic-Late-At-Night/release/849649

Electronic ‎– Late At Night Label: Parlophone ‎– 12R6519, Parlophone ‎– 7243 8 87252 6 2 Format: Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Withdrawn Country: UK Released: 05 Jul 1999 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Alternative Rock, Electro, Hip Hop

TracklistShow Credits A1 Late At Night (Album Version) 4:12 A2 Make It Happen (Original Mix) 7:45 B Make It Happen (Darren Price Mix) 5:55 Total Time: 17:52

the artwork and inner sleeve look pretty awesome.

The second single from the supergroup's third album Twisted Tenderness was manufactured and planned for release in the UK but was withdrawn at the last minute due to an uncleared Ice-T sample in the song "Make It Happen". The version of "Make It Happen" is the original mix which appears only on this 12".

Die Cut Cover with Printed Inner Sleeve

next up in the next month or so, 'bad lieutenant' releases.

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Johnny James wrote: Speaking of these remixes, does anyone have the full length Martin Buttrich remix?

As seen here: https://www.discogs.com/Martin-Buttrich-Remix-Showreel/release/1606974

You're an electronic musician, record shop owner and official remixer to New Order, and even you don't have it?? Crumbs.[:eek]

Me neither, i just have the 4.57 version (somewhere...on a CDR)

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Debaser wrote:

Johnny James wrote: Speaking of these remixes, does anyone have the full length Martin Buttrich remix?

As seen here: https://www.discogs.com/Martin-Buttrich-Remix-Showreel/release/1606974

You're an electronic musician, record shop owner and official remixer to New Order, and even you don't have it?? Crumbs.[:eek]

Me neither, i just have the 4.57 version (somewhere...on a CDR)

I know! I suspect it was never sent to Warners, can't see it in the library.

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Johnny James wrote: Speaking of these remixes, does anyone have the full length Martin Buttrich remix?

As seen here: https://www.discogs.com/Martin-Buttrich-Remix-Showreel/release/1606974

try to contact "frodekommode" or maybe that is martin buttrich. they're the only person with it.

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negative1 wrote: not exactly new order, but i've been beefing up my 'electronic' collection.

i didn't know the 12 inch for 'late at night' was withdrawn, i thought it was just both the cd-singles (which i have). so i ended up getting that too.

https://www.discogs.com/Electronic-Late-At-Night/release/849649

Electronic ‎– Late At Night Label: Parlophone ‎– 12R6519, Parlophone ‎– 7243 8 87252 6 2 Format: Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Withdrawn Country: UK Released: 05 Jul 1999 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Alternative Rock, Electro, Hip Hop

TracklistShow Credits A1 Late At Night (Album Version) 4:12 A2 Make It Happen (Original Mix) 7:45 B Make It Happen (Darren Price Mix) 5:55 Total Time: 17:52

the artwork and inner sleeve look pretty awesome.

The second single from the supergroup's third album Twisted Tenderness was manufactured and planned for release in the UK but was withdrawn at the last minute due to an uncleared Ice-T sample in the song "Make It Happen". The version of "Make It Happen" is the original mix which appears only on this 12".

Die Cut Cover with Printed Inner Sleeve

next up in the next month or so, 'bad lieutenant' releases.

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I have a 4 track CD Promo, (Vivid, Make It Happen, Prodigal Son, Flicker) that has the original Ice-T sampled version. The catalogue number is TWISTEDJ01 (missing "D" intentional?). You can probably track one of them down.

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Andy wrote:

negative1 wrote: not exactly new order, but i've been beefing up my 'electronic' collection.

i didn't know the 12 inch for 'late at night' was withdrawn, i thought it was just both the cd-singles (which i have). so i ended up getting that too.

https://www.discogs.com/Electronic-Late-At-Night/release/849649

Electronic ‎– Late At Night Label: Parlophone ‎– 12R6519, Parlophone ‎– 7243 8 87252 6 2 Format: Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Withdrawn Country: UK Released: 05 Jul 1999 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Alternative Rock, Electro, Hip Hop

TracklistShow Credits A1 Late At Night (Album Version) 4:12 A2 Make It Happen (Original Mix) 7:45 B Make It Happen (Darren Price Mix) 5:55 Total Time: 17:52

the artwork and inner sleeve look pretty awesome.

The second single from the supergroup's third album Twisted Tenderness was manufactured and planned for release in the UK but was withdrawn at the last minute due to an uncleared Ice-T sample in the song "Make It Happen". The version of "Make It Happen" is the original mix which appears only on this 12".

Die Cut Cover with Printed Inner Sleeve

next up in the next month or so, 'bad lieutenant' releases.

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I have a 4 track CD Promo, (Vivid, Make It Happen, Prodigal Son, Flicker) that has the original Ice-T sampled version. The catalogue number is TWISTEDJ01 (missing "D" intentional?). You can probably track one of them down.

yeah, i have a ton of 'electronic' stuff too. but i was trying to concentrate on 'new order' stuff first.

its just interesting to me to find this withdrawn 12 inch that i didn't know about earlier.

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I was replying to your post about an Electronic release and specifically about a version of a track mentioned in your post.

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Andy wrote: I was replying to your post about an Electronic release and specifically about a version of a track mentioned in your post.

yes, thanks. as it turns out, another person pointed out that the version on vinyl doesn't have the sample either, and that discogs was wrong.

i'm getting it a few weeks, so i can check it also.

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happy to report the ceremony RSD version made it here. it's the most expensive single i have now...

i like that there are basically 2 covers, front or back, depending on how you look at it.

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continuing with the electronic theme.

here's most of my electronic releases on CD, also have some vinyl 12, 7 inch, and minidisc, need some cassettes:

overview of all

the albums and best of, first set of singles and promos

second set of singles and promos

third set of singles and promos

back of all

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here's some more of the electronic releases, 2 minimax CD singles, in PVC sleeves that are way too tight. also 2 copies of the disappointed 10 inch, 2 promo 10 PVC sleeve singles that are super tight to get record out, and a white label 10 inch:

2 minimax cd singles with pvc sleeves:

all the 10 inches

2 promos and white label 10 inch

2 clear 10 inch promos

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here's all the cd singles for the last album together, 2 promos, and lower left are 2 custom vellum sleeves:

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a quick return to electronic.

the withdrawn UK 12 inch of 'late at night' showed up, have not played it yet.

it's a beautiful die cut sleeve, with a 2 color printed insert. much in line with the other singles..

kind of a call back to the artwork of 'tempatation' 12 inch:

https://www.discogs.com/Electronic-Late-At-Night/release/849649

Electronic ‎– Late At Night Label: Parlophone ‎– 12R6519, Parlophone ‎– 7243 8 87252 6 2 Format: Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Withdrawn Country: UK Released: 05 Jul 1999 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Alternative Rock, Electro, Hip Hop

TracklistShow Credits A1 Late At Night (Album Version) 4:12 A2 Make It Happen (Original Mix) 7:45 B Make It Happen (Darren Price Mix) 5:55 Total Time: 17:52

============================================= update on some other new ordery things..

1 a string of bad luck happened when ordering the Brotherhood UK metallic sleeve LP. the seller couldn't find it, and was out of the country for a few weeks, and said he would look for it when he came back.

well i looked for other copies, and there was one for $500 on ebay, so no thanks.

then there was another copy on discogs, which was fine, but when i was going to buy it,
it left the shopping cart. i contacted the seller, and he still had it, so i tried ordering it again.

hopefully it will show up.

2 the very last (at least for me), promo cd single from music complete, was the single edit of 'people on the high line'. well one showed up on discogs, and i ordered it, so lets see what happens with that.

further down the road - still need the singles 4xlp, and some other promo vinyls

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here are my middle era singles (a few duplicates in there):

there are some interesting things to note : 4 different color inner sleeves for UK the perfect kiss

the US promo perfect kiss video edit: https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-The-Perfect-Kiss/release/458200

New Order ‎– The Perfect Kiss Label: Qwest Records ‎– PRO-A-2342 Format: Vinyl, 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Promo Country: US Released: 1985 Genre: Electronic Style: Synth-pop

Tracklist A The Perfect Kiss (Single Edit) 4:23 B The Perfect Kiss (Live Version From The Perfect Kiss Video) 5:18 Total Time: 9:41

there's also a US 7 inch promo with that on it.

2 different US bizarre love triangle promos: https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Bizarre-Love-Triangle/release/349673

New Order ‎– Bizarre Love Triangle Label: Qwest Records ‎– PRO-A-2636 Format: Vinyl, 12", Promo, 33 ⅓ RPM Country: US Released: 1986 Genre: Electronic Style: Synth-pop

Tracklist A Bizarre Love Triangle (7" Edit) 3:23 B Bizarre Love Triangle (Extended Edit) 4:58 Total Time: 8:21

the exteneded edit hasnt been on anything else i think

https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Bizarre-Love-Triangle/release/330203 New Order ‎– Bizarre Love Triangle Label: Qwest Records ‎– PRO-A-2600 Format: Vinyl, 12", Promo, 33 ⅓ RPM Country: US Released: 1986 Genre: Electronic Style: Synth-pop

Tracklist A Bizarre Love Triangle (LP Version) 4:19 B Bizarre Love Triangle (Edit) 3:44 Total Time: 8:03

the 'way of life' us promo, maybe it was going to be a release: https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Way-Of-Life/release/503261 New Order ‎– Way Of Life Label: Qwest Records ‎– PRO-A-2644 Format: Vinyl, 12", Promo, 33 ⅓ RPM Country: US Released: 1986 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Alternative Rock, Synth-pop

Tracklist A Way Of Life (LP Version) 3:45 B Way Of Life (LP Version) 3:45 Total Time: 7:30

also, i like the typography on the 'subculture' UK 12 inch, even though theres no artwork.

and finally, the UK shellshock had an inner which extended the artwork of the cover, which we didn't get in the US. also there was a US promo 12 inch, which had shellshock (DUB) on the b-side, as opposed to the normal release which just had the 'thieves like us' on it.

https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Shellshock/release/956472 New Order ‎– Shellshock Label: A&M Records ‎– SP-12174 Format: Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Promo Country: US Released: 1986 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Alternative Rock, New Wave, Synth-pop

Tracklist A Shell-Shock (Extended Version) 9:41 B Shell-Shock (Dub Version) 7:35 Total Time: 17:16

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Way of Life is indeed the LP version, although the time listing is incorrect. It was sent to radio to try to generate continued interest in Brotherhood. Maybe the shorter duration is a typo, or perhaps it was intentional to make the track seem more radio friendly. I seriously doubt it was considered for release. Qwest had declined to release State of the Nation as a single, instead using it as an extra track on the Bizarre Love Triangle release. This had meant BLT was the only single released in the LP campaign. They'd done something similar with Touched by the Hand of God, passing on the release only for it to turn up as a b-side to Blue Monday 1988 a few months later. Stupid Americans.

Years later, the Electronic track Tighten Up had promos sent to radio. Like Way of Life, it wasn't meant to be a single, just a way to promote the LP via radio play to stations/people that might be more receptive to its more guitar based sound.

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Andy wrote:

Years later, the Electronic track Tighten Up had promos sent to radio. Like Way of Life, it wasn't meant to be a single, just a way to promote the LP via radio play to stations/people that might be more receptive to its more guitar based sound.

I have this promo - my Electronic collection is Second To None.

Well not quite, but it's decent.

Tighten Up is one of their harder promos to find, and contains a unique Single Edit.

If I recall, it's just an abbreviated intro and fade out finish.

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well, i'm going through a japanese phase right now,

and i have some gaps in my collection. so i was seeing what i had.

i do have brotherhood CD on order. for some there are multiple japanese copies, remasters, and reissues, not to mention promos. most are rather expensive too. i don't have too many singles either, so will have to look out for those also:

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There's no Discogs entry for a japanese Regret 12", but I'm pretty sure I've seen someone posting a copy here some time ago... can anyone confirm?

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Mr. Disco wrote: There's no Discogs entry for a japanese Regret 12", but I'm pretty sure I've seen someone posting a copy here some time ago... can anyone confirm?

Japan had long since shifted to CD-only by the time of Regret (for pretty much ALL artists, not only NO). The last New Order vinyl release was Technique, and even that one was pretty limited. None of the Technique-era singles got a vinyl release. Last 12" in Japan was BM 1988.

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Occidental wrote:

Mr. Disco wrote: There's no Discogs entry for a japanese Regret 12", but I'm pretty sure I've seen someone posting a copy here some time ago... can anyone confirm?

Japan had long since shifted to CD-only by the time of Regret (for pretty much ALL artists, not only NO). The last New Order vinyl release was Technique, and even that one was pretty limited. None of the Technique-era singles got a vinyl release. Last 12" in Japan was BM 1988.

what about the japanese tutti frutti 12 inch. https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Tutti-Frutti/release/8352223

New Order ‎– Tutti Frutti Label:Mute ‎– 12JMUTE542 Format:Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Limited Edition Country: Japan

Electro, House, Synth-pop TracklistShow Credits A Tutti Frutti (Extended 12" Mix) 7:27 B Tutti Frutti (Takkyu Ishino Remix) 7:54 Total Time: 15:21

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ok, almost 2 months later, i finally got it.

the first seller, said they had it, but then they couldn't find it, and was going to get back to me in july when they were back in the country.

so i had to find a 2nd seller, and they did have it. there were 2 copies on ebay, 1 for $300, and 1 for $600, so i wasn't getting those.

a week ago, another seller had it for $100+ which is about right. (although that one sold also)

anyways, comparisons pics part 1:

the us lp, upper left, the uk lp upper right the metallic sleeve bottom center:

the uk and us sleeve match up pretty well (discounting the plastic wrap).

the metallic sleeve is definitely shinier and has real texture to it.

here is a comparison, with the metallic cd cover:

the cd metallic texture is also slightly different, but the same size, when placed on the LP.

but it was definitely a different run, and a slightly different texture, and printing method.

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negative1 wrote:

Occidental wrote:

Mr. Disco wrote: There's no Discogs entry for a japanese Regret 12", but I'm pretty sure I've seen someone posting a copy here some time ago... can anyone confirm?

Japan had long since shifted to CD-only by the time of Regret (for pretty much ALL artists, not only NO). The last New Order vinyl release was Technique, and even that one was pretty limited. None of the Technique-era singles got a vinyl release. Last 12" in Japan was BM 1988.

what about the japanese tutti frutti 12 inch. https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Tutti-Frutti/release/8352223

New Order ‎– Tutti Frutti Label:Mute ‎– 12JMUTE542 Format:Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Limited Edition Country: Japan

Electro, House, Synth-pop TracklistShow Credits A Tutti Frutti (Extended 12" Mix) 7:27 B Tutti Frutti (Takkyu Ishino Remix) 7:54 Total Time: 15:21

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I was referring more to the end of the vinyl era as a viable mainstream physical medium, competing with cassettes and CDs. Of course there's been a vinyl resurgence recently capitalizing on the recent worldwide trend, but that's more of a collectors/DJ/nostalgia thing.

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here are 5 of the main promo cd-singles from music complete.

(theres 2 more japanese ones that are impossible to find, and a german one for tutti frutti thats also expensive) :

i'm good with these: us, uk restless, german tutti frutti, uk singularity, uk people on the highline:

some of the edits are unique i think.

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