New Order - Factory Cassettes, boxsets and more

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Sounds like you picked up The Remix CD which I mentioned. The RIAD Fazed n Dazed mix can't be official and I suspect the monger himself made it to convince completists they 'needed' it.

Now that you come to mention it, I think I did pick up that Remix CD. Is it the one with the Racic mix of 'Paradise' on it? If so, I think I bought it from one of the shops inside Manchester's Corn Exchange (that building was a veritable Aladdin's Cave of interesting stores. Sadly, the IRA bomb in 1996 put an end to that).

That being said, I definitely had those exclusive soundtrack mixes on a bootleg tape first. It wasn't the best of quality. Would've got in about 1991-2. That Remix CD was from about 1994, wasn't it?

Here we go:

https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-The-Remix/release/7706942

I hadn't remembered that they were also on that CD, although they were probably my main reason for buying it, looking at the track listing. As well, as having the 'Paradise' and 'Run 2' mixes on CD.

1 Subculture (Dubvulture Mix) 8:11 2 Confusion (DMC Mix) 5:25 3 Run 2 (Extended Mix) 5:43 4 Paradise (Bounty Mix) 6:34 5 Ruined In A Day (Phased & Dazed) 4:01 6 Blue Monday (DJ Only Club Mix) 7:38 7 True Faith (Bright Lights, Big City) 5:49 8 Temptation (Wild Mix) 3:30 9 Bizarre Love Triangle (Married To The Mob Mix) 3:55 10 Megaorder (Megatrax Mix) 17:59 11 Sister Ray (Oz's Live & Dangerous Mix)

I'm sure that 'Bounty Mix' was the Racic mix. I think you're correct about the 'Phased And Dazed' mix being 'fan made', although I haven't listened to that CD in years (i'm not even sure I know where it is).

Oh, and I listened to the 'Vicious Circle' New Order mix for the first time in donkey's years today. I was pleasantly surprised I think it sounds better than the Haas mix. It's a decent little piece of music. Better than I remember it.

Yeah, that's the one. I bought It in late 95 at a Cumbridge record fair. As I mentioned, It was a bit of a piss take cos all I needed were RIAD (bolox), Sister Ray Oz (never worked out which gig), Paradise (inessential) and BM (a Bonkers Beach Buggy 12").

getting back to cassettes,

i mentioned discrete campaigns in the bootleg vinyl,

but here's the pics from discogs (mines in a box somewhere)

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Discreet-Campaigns/release/385745

Various ‎– Discreet Campaigns Label: Rorschach Testing Product ‎– ror 1 Format: Cassette, Compilation Country: UK Released: 1985 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Abstract, Industrial, Experimental, Indie Rock, New Wave, Post-Punk TracklistShow Credits B9 –New Order Sunrise (Instrumental Rough Mix) 5:39 Total Time: 1:21:26

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i'm not sure how i ended up buying the italian import of movement, but the local music store in the mid80's had it. and it was just a regular store, and not one that got imports.

italian 'movement': https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Movement/release/1684503

New Order ‎– Movement Label: Base Record ‎– FACT. 50, Base Record ‎– FAC 50 MC Format: Cassette, Album Country: Italy Released: 1981 Genre: Rock Style: New Wave Tracklist A1 Dreams Never End 3:07 A2 Truth 4:32 A3 Senses 4:38 A4 Chosen Time 4:05 B1 ICB 4:26 B2 The Him 5:23 B3 Doubts Even Here 4:13 B4 Denial 4:16 Total Time: 34:40

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negative1 wrote: i'm not sure how i ended up buying the italian import of movement, but the local music store in the mid80's had it. and it was just a regular store, and not one that got imports.

This reminds me that there are some hilarious black market cassette versions of New Order albums on Discogs

Not that funny.

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Not that funny.

Oh yeah and what makes you the expert on being unfunny ?

7.40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYMkHtoRUbw

GotBlueEyes wrote:

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Not that funny.

Oh yeah and what makes you the expert on being unfunny ?

I think we all know he's an expert at not being funny.

here is my discreet campaigns cassette, finally found it:

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got the movement cassette today, sure it's a little stained, but the insides are in mint condition.

i might get another substance one, and experiment to see if the stain can be taken out by bleaching, or steaming maybe... hmm..

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here is my featuremist booklet (can't find the cassette, its generic!!!!, never put the labels on it, oh well).

i guess i should get the remaster too:

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Feature-Mist/master/1022708

Various ‎– Feature Mist Genre: Electronic, Non-Music Style: Modern Classical, Ambient, Spoken Word, Synth-pop Year: 1982 Tracklist –Vladimir Mayakovsky Final Verse, "Last Poem" –New Order Video 586 - 1 –Soliman Gamil The New Nubia –Robert Wyatt From An Interview –The Death And Beauty Foundation Song Of The Houseproud Ghost –Hanns Eisler & Vladimir Mayakovsky Subbotnik –Eric Random Meets The Bedlamites In Cassette Conference –Simple Minds King Is White –Tuxedomoon Shelved Dreams –Dmitri Shostakovich Waltz From "The Bedbug" –New Order Video 586 - 2 –Flesh Hesitate

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here is my 'fake' Technique Cassette Boxset

• canvas with wood, 2 halves
• bronze hinges
• bronze clasp
• 6 photo replicas of singles
• UK Cassette

YES, this is from 'artsy craftsy' project, that i made. so i'll be making a few more for the rest of the albums, and a double 'black' one, thats 8x10 for substance...

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eBay caveat emptor!

waiting for the sirens call - indonesian cassette:

https://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Waiting-For-The-Sirens-Call/release/1688889

New Order ‎– Waiting For The Sirens' Call Label: London Records ‎– HWO 5913, London Records ‎– 82564622024, London Records ‎– 25646 2202 2, Warner Bros. Records ‎– HWO 5913, Warner Bros. Records ‎– 82564622024, Warner Bros. Records ‎– 25646 2202 2 Format: Cassette, Album Country: Indonesia Released: 2005 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Synth-pop, Indie Rock TracklistShow Credits A1 Who's Joe? 5:43 A2 Hey Now What You Doing 5:13 A3 Waiting For The Sirens' Call 5:40 A4 Krafty 4:33 A5 I Told You So 5:58 A6 Morning Night And Day 5:08 B1 Dracula's Castle 5:38 B2 Jetstream 5:21 B3 Guilt Is A Useless Emotion 5:37 B4 Turn 4:33 B5 Working Overtime 3:27 Total Time: 56:51

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Japanese Low Life Cassette

How about this one? Never seen it before.

here are my 3 most recent ones, the re-issued tape, UK republic, and thai Get Ready

here's the most recent ones, UK, US technique, UK, US republic, get ready, waiting for the sirens call, music complete

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FACt: Looking at New Order releases is more enjoyable than listening to them, especially during the London years.

GotBlueEyes wrote:

PCL & Low Life I picked up later in life when I started to collect the boxes. Got them all now, the Wim Mertens one being the hardest to get

Talking of the rare Wim Mertens yellow linen box - I thought I'd paid through the nose to complete my collection when I got mine on ebay about 10 years ago for £300

But one just went for more than double that

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185136244879

GotBlueEyes wrote:

Talking of the rare Wim Mertens yellow linen box - I thought I'd paid through the nose to complete my collection when I got mine on ebay about 10 years ago for £300

But one just went for more than double that

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185136244879

I paid $220 (£162 by today's exchange rate) in 2005 for one in absolutely perfect condition.

-Mike

Twenty years!!! F**k.

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Crazy. It was quite a disappointment after all those years of being teased with Recycle.

I replied to that tweet with a photo of my 5 disc edition.

Yeah like Andy said, Retro was a bit crap after rumours or promises of Recycle . I vaguely recall reading that there would be CDs of each & every single and multi tracks of all included.Recall the only good things about Retro were the live disc and bonus disc. And maybe the book

There was such massive vitriol on the old NO forum when the tracklisting for Retro was announced that lead to the bonus disc with unreleased rarities being added last minute to appease

here's a fun pickup, the canadian Fine Time cassette single:

one of the many pickups for 2022. will post a list shortly.

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