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Details here:
http://www.omegaauctions.co.uk/news-media/news/the-peter-hook-signature-collection-2021/
Catalogues available at £15 a shot (£23 for signed; £35 for a personal inscription).
Two variants of the cover; one with the Blue Monday anvil award, the other with the NME Godlike Genius award.
Not much interest, eh?
Got the catalogue today.
As suspected, it's a nice item, full of some real cool memorabilia and, admittedly, some tat (some Get Ready, WFSTC etc. promo items, for instance).
The choice article for me is the Blue Monday anvil. Think Tony had about 8 made, each with their names individually cast onto them. This one says 'Peter'. Starting price is £1k but it’ll fetch a lot more, I’d think. I would LOVE this!
There’s also his Brit Award for the True Faith video, plus an Ivor Novello and the NME Godlike Genius award.
Apart from those, there are a LOT of very interesting tapes (demos, live sets etc.) that I'd love too. They start at around £100 for a set of them.
There's quite a few guitars for sale too. Some of which would be bloody nice to own (one of his Shergolds and a couple of his BB1200Ss, including his original one). There's also his HOT and HOT2 Eccleshall guitars, which look fab!
However, I'm not really sure who would want to own a bass guitar that was obviously gifted to Hooky and he never played (or, at least, not in any meaningful way). He's pretty much known for only ever using the BB1200S and Marathon, but there's quite a few 'other' makes (including some standard guitars). It would be weird to own a Hooky bass that isn't a Yamaha or Shergold.
Anyway, I won't be bidding. Too rich for my blood, sadly. :-( I also find auctions really annoying. I like to know that the price stated is the price I'm going to pay. It's frustrating when things escalate quickly.
But, still, I'd definitely recommend the catalogue (as I would the first auction's one). It's a lovely item and very nice to see all that memorabilia together in one place.
I’ve ordered mine, waiting for it it’s been posted so should be any day. Very doubtful I could afford any of this, hence getting the magazine, about my limit!
Only the BM Anvil was of real interest to me when skimming the web page linked above.
No way an ordinary bloke from Salford is going to win an auction for that, so fuck it. I'm out.
perspexorange wrote: Not much interest, eh?
Ordered the catalogue, but it'll be a while before it arrives, probably thanks to Brexit and brazilian postman
Again and again I'm flogging too much, of the crap that costs you too much,
And it ain't just Hooky
http://forums.neworderonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4964#post36193
Think this has just been put up on YouTube this afternoon.Up for auction in October as part of Hooky's sale.
Unheard WIM rap outtakes
Sounds like what could be the previously rumoured Gazza attempt at the rap and then what is apparently Peter Beardsley, according to the Guardian's England v Denmark blog today .Was Beardsley pissed out of his head?
Doin' my head in waiting for the match tonight.
I wondered if these alternative "raps" would see the light of day as outtake excerpts on the 'Technique' definitive edition (they'd need to be clips of just the raps, not the entire song several times over).
Do you think Hooky selling off his tapes now will prevent this occurring - and from other, more significant, alternate takes and outtakes appearing on future boxed sets? Hope he doesn't have the only copies of such masters - or that the tapes have already been digitised ready for mastering and inclusion on the boxed sets.
Be a shame to flog off the only copies of stuff now and exclude them from future boxed sets in the process!
Are there any other tapes in Hooky's auction?
Mr Discography wrote: I wondered if these alternative "raps" would see the light of day as outtake excerpts on the 'Technique' definitive edition (they'd need to be clips of just the raps, not the entire song several times over).
Do you think Hooky selling off his tapes now will prevent this occurring - and from other, more significant, alternate takes and outtakes appearing on future boxed sets? Hope he doesn't have the only copies of such masters - or that the tapes have already been digitised ready for mastering and inclusion on the boxed sets.
Be a shame to flog off the only copies of stuff now and exclude them from future boxed sets in the process!
Are there any other tapes in Hooky's auction?
in the third post from above: "Apart from those, there are a LOT of very interesting tapes (demos, live sets etc.) that I'd love too. They start at around £100 for a set of them."
yes, i think there are lots of different tapes, maybe some live stuff, maybe some demos or alternate versions.
will probably cost a lot though.
later -1
Loads and loads of interesting tapes. Basically from 1980 to 1990 there are assorted tapes of live recordings and demos and rehearsals. Each lot is roughly 7-17 tapes split on years. E.g. 17 live cassettes from 1981 December 1980 to Jan 1981. 7 cassettes from 1980 studio and demo. Some seem very interesting. All start at £100
Fotz wrote:
Unheard WIM rap outtakes
Oh God, the Tory mewling pencil recited the rap in parliament today. I literally only lasted two seconds. Oh how I cannot bear the thought of him.
ps Sterling dived.
I always thought some of these rap takes were used on The B-side version, no? After a lot of processing/effects, of course.
Despite featuring no bass guitar at all, this one actually used to be my favourite version at the time...
Mr. Disco wrote: I always thought some of these rap takes were used on The B-side version, no? After a lot of processing/effects, of course.
Despite featuring no bass guitar at all, this one actually used to be my favourite version at the time...
'Thr B-Side' was basically the demo version. I read somewhere about who did the rap but forget - it wasn't the players. Perhaps Keith Allen?
The Shadow wrote: Loads and loads of interesting tapes. Basically from 1980 to 1990 there are assorted tapes of live recordings and demos and rehearsals. Each lot is roughly 7-17 tapes split on years. E.g. 17 live cassettes from 1981 December 1980 to Jan 1981. 7 cassettes from 1980 studio and demo. Some seem very interesting. All start at £100
So sounds like second generation copies - i.e. test pressings, CD-Rs and cassettes, as opposed to the actual master tapes. That's a relief.
Fotz wrote: Think this has just been put up on YouTube this afternoon.Up for auction in October as part of Hooky's sale.
Unheard WIM rap outtakes
Sounds like what could be the previously rumoured Gazza attempt at the rap and then what is apparently Peter Beardsley, according to the Guardian's England v Denmark blog today .Was Beardsley pissed out of his head?
Doin' my head in waiting for the match tonight.
Im pretty sure I remember John Barnes saying in the middle of NewOrderStory the decision on who did the rap came down to him, Paul Gascoigne, Des Walker and Peter Beardsley ( ![[:|]](/emoticons/ohwell.gif){kind=small}
) and obvs on that clip the second was Gazza and the third was Beardsley ( ) so was that first one Barnes or could it have been Walker?
Debaser wrote:
Fotz wrote:
Unheard WIM rap outtakes
ps Sterling dived.
It’s diving home, it’s diving home, it’s diving.....
HaHa. Nice one, Fotz!
To be fair, it was a very soft penalty. But these things even themselves out. Kane should’ve had a penalty earlier, IMO Their free kick that they scored from shouldn’t’ve stood etc.
Balance of play, we deserved the win, I feel (even if the penalty was soft). We created the best chances and were denied goals thanks to the brilliance of Schmeichel. Also, for much of the second half and ET, Denmark didn’t seem to want to win the game, maybe (realistically) believing that Schmikes would get them through a penalty shoot-out. England on the other hand, were pretty much camped in the Danish half for much of the latter parts of the game.
Roll on Sunday. I will say that I’m not very hopeful, regrettably. Italy look great and, sadly, a better side than us.
But you never know. It could happen. I’m just happy we’ve got a chance. A major final, eh? Who’d have thunk it? 😀
Just to keep this slightly on topic, World In Motion is on heavy rotation in my house.
Yep, all that you said above, Perspexorange. England been well overdue some luck for a long long time..Mexico 86, Italia 90, Euro 96, South Africa 2010. Though there’s the argument that if they’d been good enough in all those tournaments they wouldn’t have needed luck. I guess you could say we were lucky to get the penalty against Argentina in the 2002 WC though.
I think we would have eventually got a second goal against Denmark even if Sterling hadn’t got the penalty , we were tiring them out towards the end of 90 minutes and in extra time. Just a shame we won with a dodgy penalty, well the rebound strike from Kane but you know what o mean- the original decision.And as for the own goal, well Sterling would have knocked it in if the Danish guy hadn’t.
I was just happy we got to the final and was concluding it would be an Italy victory but it would be such an occasion, a once in a lifetime thing . Never thought I’d see England in a final in my lifetime. But I’m actually starting to think England could have a chance. They’ve found a way to get through games in this tournament, they really dug deep against Denmark, and can wear teams down eventually. Southgate totally knows what he’s doing , a very clever guy. The team has momentum and so many of the players are really hitting their form. I’ve never been so confident of England’s defence as in this tournament. They’re gelling as a team, unlike the likes of Beckham and co in the 90s and 2000s.
Well, anyway. They could do it. Not saying they will but they have the ability.
Fotz wrote: Southgate totally knows what he’s doing , a very clever guy.
This. Totally. His tactics have been spot on. Also, much as I love Grealish, you've got to admire a man who isn't afraid to sub a sub if it means shoring up the defence.
Fotz wrote: I’ve never been so confident of England’s defence as in this tournament.
This too! This is the best England squad I've seen at a tournament since the first one I saw back in 1982. We've had some pretty good teams (1986, 1990 and 1996 spring to mind), but never had the same wealth of players to pick from.
Even if we ultimately fail on Sunday (such is the England way), it's still a great time to be an England supporter. Semis in the World Cup and Nations League, plus the Final (and maybe beyond!) in the Euros. Exciting times!
We're singing for England! En-gerr-land!
Coops wrote:
... so was that first one Barnes or could it have been Walker?
If you look at the comments in Youtube, someone asked about the voices, and Omega Auctions (the uploader) replied: "Barnes, Gazza then Beardsley!"
Agree with others' observations on Beardsley; he always sounded a bit like that, and I suspect he wasn't very good at reading quickly! (great player though, before y'all pile on me..)
ps Sterling still dived.
pps: if anybody needed "things to go for them" (Lineker's phrase) it was plucky underdogs Denmark who literally saw their talisman Ericksen drop out with a heart attack.
Michael Monkhouse wrote:
The Shadow wrote: All start at £100
PUNK!
Yeah that’s why I won’t be bidding. Way too pricey. Be nice if they were all put up on a website for us all to download. Maybe the winner if they visit this forum could do that!
Well , congratulations to Italy. They were simply the better team. In fact the much better team. Was disappointed with England and Southgate, thought he got it all wrong on Sunday night which was a massive shame after the team and he had done so brilliantly in the previous games. Had to smile at Chiellini yelling “ It’s coming to Rome!!” into the camera. A formidable character, without a doubt.
Left the pub as soon as Saka had his penalty saved. It really stung Sunday night. Thankfully I had a day off work on Monday and woke up puzzled , for a moment I had forgotten what had happened the night before . Then it hit me - oh yeah England lost in their first final since 1966. Still, my spirits soon recovered after a great breakfast and a few beers in the pub Monday afternoon with my brother and a mate as we went through the post mortem dissection. Strangely, this defeat didn’t hurt nearly as much as any of the semi final defeats of tournaments gone by. I guess I was just happy to have seen England in a final for the first time in my life, a thing I never thought would happen. Gonna take a long while though to pick up and think about the World Cup next year, of which of course England still have to qualify. Without doubt England have made a lot of progress under Southgate but really think we could have done a lot more against Italy on Sunday night.
As for the thugs and horrific scenes on Sunday afternoon and early evening leading up to kick off with gangs trying to break into Wembley without tickets and the utter carnage they wrought around Wembley Way and London....moronic, thick shit, fucktards that don’t give a fuck about terrorising genuine fans and their young kids. Well there goes any hope of the 2030 World Cup being hosted on these shores. But then when you’ve got utter moronic, thick shit, fucktards like Boris Johnson running the country what do you expect.
Edit: oh and PS , was Bernard at the game? Saw a pic online that showed him at what looked like in one of the concourses inside the stadium with a couple of people, one of which may have been his son? Not sure . But seems as though he managed to get a ticket?
Fotz wrote: But then when you’ve got utter moronic, thick shit, fucktards like Boris Johnson running the country what do you expect.
Ha, don't pull your punches Fotz! Jonathan Pie seems to agree with you though. Speaking of which, does this count as a World In Motion spot at 0:36?
^ Thanks for that, D. That Jonathan Pie articulates it all a million times better than my attempt. Spot on, everything he said. What a cesspit, basket case shit hole of a country England is.
Fotz wrote: What a cesspit, basket case shit hole of a country England is.
Well, it certainly has its share of morons.
But, a shithole? Not even close.
There’s plenty to love. No war, no famine, clean water etc. There’s also a whole host of throughly decent people living here (like those good souls who helped to cover up the disturbing defacement of the Rashford mural).
Also, we have the ability in this country to post our criticism of this country and its government. There are several places in the world where that just isn’t possible.
I don’t want to appear preachy, but it just seems a tad daft to say the place you call home is a shit hole, when it’s far from that.
After all, if it was that bad, you’d probably be elsewhere.
