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Which JD song should NO bring back to the setlist?

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Which JD song should NO bring back to the setlist?

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  • A Means To An End 1 (2%)
  • Atrocity Exhibition 1 (2%)
  • Colony 1 (2%)
  • Day Of The Lords 2 (4%)
  • Dead Souls 4 (7%)
  • Decades 5 (9%)
  • Disorder 5 (9%)
  • Glass 0 (0%)
  • Heart And Soul 2 (4%)
  • Insight 0 (0%)
  • New Dawn Fades 7 (12%)
  • Novelty 4 (7%)
  • Passover 1 (2%)
  • Shadowplay 7 (12%)
  • Something Must Break 1 (2%)
  • The Eternal 0 (0%)
  • The Sound of Music 3 (5%)
  • These Days 2 (4%)
  • Twenty Four Hours 5 (9%)
  • Other (Specify) 6 (11%)

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Just some remarks on the above list:

  • "Heart And Soul" has been played just 4 times in 1998 and "New Dawn Fades" has been played just once in 2001, so they weren't considered part of the current setlists.
  • "Atmosphere", "Digital", "Isolation", "Love Will Tear Us Apart", "She’s Lost Control" and "Transmission" are already in the current setlists.
  • I've included "Novelty" in the list just to avoid complaints from Rocket Mick. :D

I was almost voting for "Decades" but I decided to pick something New Order never have played live, so I went with "Twenty Four Hours".

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Decades. Possibly the only song that fits New Order better than it fitted Joy Division. Lush strings........I still get a shiver up my spine when I listen to the Festival Hall 84 or the Paradiso 84 gig.

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there are far too many overlooked NEWORDER songs for them to be bothering with JD tracks...they need to play the NO material before they call it a day and leave the JD alone....

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But JD material is NO material... :skeptic:

So it's good for them to play their old songs!

I voted for Dead Souls, but I'd like to have them play New Dawn Fades with Bernard on vocals... ;)

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personally i'd take:

Sooner Than You Think Leave Me Alone Lonesome Tonight Thieves Vanishing Point Dream Attack Let's Go Procession EGG AOC Here To Stay Sunrise

and many more over ANY Joy Division song...

i know they were JD but there are too many good NewOrder songs to bother with JD songs...maybe one or two per set but 5 is pushing it a little too far.

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must go with new dawn fades...perhaps in place of atmosphere? it's not their best live moment.

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Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapazoid there are far too many overlooked NEWORDER songs for them to be bothering with JD tracks...they need to play the NO material before they call it a day and leave the JD alone....

I'm with you about them concentrating more on New Order material but it is exciting when they dust off a Joy Division classic or two in a set.

I know they tend to rehearse fewer songs for their tours lately but the Joy Division songs tend to be less complex. Perhaps they could work on 5 or so JD songs per tour, and then decide at each concert which 2 to throw in.

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If I had to hear NO do some more JD songs, I'd prefer something from the early days, which is why I voted for Sound Of Music.

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i'd like them to rock with colony

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Gotta go with "Dead Souls" but I'd love to hear "The Eternal" too. That would be really eerie.

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Or what about them just playing an overall Joy Division set for their fans? It would be great, for me, no matter what they picked.

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I'll go with New Dawn Fades for argument's sake but, quite frankly, I don't want to see any more Joy Division stuff added.

We get more than enough already.

There's so many better, IMhO, New Order songs I'd rather hear again over all the JD stuff..

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Have to agree with Al and Biznotic on this one.

Lets hear neworder play some of the fantastic neworder songs we havent heard for donkeys years they delve into the vaults..... :)

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"These Days". It would fit perfectly in a NO setlist...

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i went with "Day of the Lords" but would've voted for "twenty four hours" as well

of course id love to hear "as it is when it was" played again too

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Moby took New Dawn Fades, so I say 24 hours...

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Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapazoid personally i'd take:Sooner Than You ThinkLeave Me AloneLonesome TonightThievesVanishing PointDream AttackLet's GoProcessionEGGAOCHere To StaySunriseand many more over ANY Joy Division song...i know they were JD but there are too many good NewOrder songs to bother with JD songs...maybe one or two per set but 5 is pushing it a little too far.

that's not a bad little setlist Brian...I"m with Brian on this one...to heck with doing JD songs...play these instead!!!

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I think 4 Joy Division songs per gig is alright. I agree with Agentwood, they should drop "Atmosphere" (great song, but not with Barney singing) to free some room for another track.

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Originally posted by Ricardo I think 4 Joy Division songs per gig is alright. I agree with Agentwood, they should drop "Atmosphere" (great song, but not with Barney singing) to free some room for another track.

Maybe 4 songs of a 24 song set.

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I voted for Atrocity exhibition, but further thinking has me wondering if thats right. I guess pretty much any of the joy division stuff would rule, with a few exceptions. There are some JD songs that ONLY Mr Curtis could sing, of course thats just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Ricardo I think 4 Joy Division songs per gig is alright. I agree with Agentwood, they should drop "Atmosphere" (great song, but not with Barney singing) to free some room for another track.

I have to disagree.. when I heard the Peel Session 98 version, I had to say it was the best version of this song.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Ian Curtis version, but I had shivers (not gas) when I heard that version!!!

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FAO: Benny & Andy T...

Cool things down a little boys, it's Christmas Time...!

(bad excuse I know, but I'd like to avoid a conflict in here)...

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I've said it before, but I really like NO's version of LWTUA that they performed on "Later with Jools Holland"...

But as for the selection of "other" that I made in the poll, I would have to go with either "The Drawback" or "They Walked In Line"...it might sound interesting.

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It's really strange I hadn't post here :scratch:

Maybe I was banned those days by Sebastien :evil4:

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at a later date would be my personal choice. barney could regrow the whiskers from the electric circus gig for the next NO tour

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can I vote for none of the above???

I would really prefer to only hear order choons at an order gig!!!

come on, flame me...I can take it!!!

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Originally posted by Grigori can I vote for none of the above???I would really prefer to only hear order choons at an order gig!!!come on, flame me...I can take it!!!

No,you can't Jeff :evil4:

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Originally posted by Grigori can I vote for none of the above???I would really prefer to only hear order choons at an order gig!!!come on, flame me...I can take it!!!

well, i agree with you jeff. not because i don´t like JD ones. but because i´d hate them to become their "best tribute band". they used to surprise and to take concerts as an artistic creation. and they were different for that. now they´re just like any other band. they just put a "greatest hits" show, the "politically correct" decision. and i just hate it happens. :nonono:

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I think A Means to an End wouldn't be at all out of place at a NO show. It's definitely one of the danciest JD songs, so it would fit right in at a New Order gig.

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Originally posted by Grigori can I vote for none of the above???I would really prefer to only hear order choons at an order gig!!!come on, flame me...I can take it!!!

Couldn't agree more.

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seconded on the "none of the above vote", they are NOT JD now and would only do inferior versions, punctuated by barneys annoying whoops and whistles, I'm not sure they could even do their own early stuff justice anymore so forget JD

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Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope I think A Means to an End wouldn't be at all out of place at a NO show. It's definitely one of the danciest JD songs, so it would fit right in at a New Order gig.

Barney could never play it properly in those days, and that was before the E and Pernod !

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SHADOWPLAY.

I would like to hear it with Barney, it is my favourite JD song. :clap:

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None. Don't get me wrong I like JD. But I feel they've done their JD thing. There are heaps on NO songs I'd like to hear. After all when I go see NO I want to see NO. At first I thought it was great they played JD songs, but these days I tend to skip them on my live recordings.

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Not to be too much of a geek, but I've got a pretty good idea of what the ultimate NO setlist would be (for me at least). Decades as the opening song on the encore is the only JD track included. In my opinion, it's the only JD track that I've heard NO do that is better than the JD version. Of course, they haven't done them all, and the only live JD take is that piss poor effort from Still, but still it has all the makings of a great NO track. Bouncy melancholia.

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Originally posted by Ronald Kirsch None. Don't get me wrong I like JD. But I feel they've done their JD thing. There are heaps on NO songs I'd like to hear. After all when I go see NO I want to see NO. At first I thought it was great they played JD songs, but these days I tend to skip them on my live recordings.

At last, someone on my wavelength !!

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DECADES.

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Forget Joy Division songs , how about some of their own classics;

Hurt Age Of Consent Sunrise Face Up Senses Chosen Time

Mike

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Originally posted by Mike Garrity Forget Joy Division songs , how about some of their own classics;HurtAge Of ConsentSunriseFace UpSenses Chosen TimeMike

Ditto. :thumb:

Bring back Face Up, Age of Consent, Lonesome Tonight, Sunrise, etc, rather than the JD stuff.. .

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Face Up? Christ, I'd shit me pants with joy. Remember drunkenly shouting for it at the Olympia 2001 show, and this lad next to me just grins and goes "yeah, right".

Wasn't their excuse for not doing TPK summat to do with it taking six months to program?? Well, they've had more than six bloody months now (bring back 'The Village' as well!)

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i voted for dead souls but only if hooky does the lead vox, and i agree that any 2 of e.g.g, hurt, thieves or age of consent would be welcome back in the gig list in preference to bernie's wayward vox on atmosphere!!

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In terms of JD, Digital would be nice. In terms of NO, bring back TPK, Ultraviolence, and This time of night.

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I chose Disorder, though very closely behind come Insight, New Dawn Fades, Day Of The Lords, Shadowplay and Twenty Four Hours.

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All of them !

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still none of them!! get 'everythings gone green' out instead!

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