Challenge Match: Crystal vs Here To Stay
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Which song do you prefer?
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Crystal 35 (60%)
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Here To Stay 23 (40%)
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't make me pick between the two!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D:D:D:D:D anita, flipping a coin...
YOU'RE MAD! MAD! MAD!
How can I choose? Both are so perfectly New Order......
Jeez, Nic, you're an 
man
I know I am.. I think I'm unable to vote myself..!
I think both are great songs, maybe I should close this thread because it might be the last vote for the "Survivor" game ;-)
I just can't pick one, and I just can't see how I would put those songs in my personal chart..
I'll let time do its business.. I know I don't like Crystal's intro, the single version should be "the" version... just like HTS..
Both had at least one great remix.. (Lee Coombs & Felix Da Housecat)
Crystal wins for me, its one of the best New Order singles period.
Here to Stay is good, but not as good as Out Of Control.
Cheers ALEX
Here to Stay just somehow evokes more emotion from me. Don't know what it is exactly...not saying that Crystal is bad by any stretch :D
HTS. The bit at the end where it repeats "Here to Staaayyyy" in a sort of monotone is why I love to listen to New Order. Brilliant!
crystal for me. I feel here to stay sounds like a "project" of a song than a song per se. when I finish listening to it I go "ok, it´s good but... what else?". is like something´s missing.
Puh...that's a tough one. i say "Here To Stay"! Crystal is surely a classic, but i'm a bit fed up with it by now. "Here To Stay" is fresh on every moment, the guitars, the electronics, the vocals and this "Here To Stay"-vocal part, brilliant!
Well, Crystal really isn't their comeback song, Brutal was. I think I like Here to Stay alot better, it sounds like it could fit perfectly on Technique. Plus, I'm a big fan of the Chemical Bros, so this gets my vote.
Since crystal was probably the song that first made me aware of new order as being good I would have to say it is the better of the two. Here to stay is a briliant song but the guitar riff and bass solo of crystal just takes my breath away.
I remember seeing the crystal video for the first time and being very confused - "surely they must be at least forty years old by now??!?!" , then i forgot about that and enjoyed the song. Excellent stuff.
'Crystal' for me. HTS just lacks something for me and i feel it's just new order by numbers in that it sounds like the chemical brothers,who are big fans, having the chance to make a new order record.
No competition whatsoever.
Crystal is CLASSIC New Order. Here To Say just isn't. Listened to the latter to death for about 2 weeks, then woke up one morning and thought, god, this is boring. I could never say that about the former.
Anyone who says the latter just ain't seen this band live.
Crystal is just one of those songs that is pure New Order - every time they go away, they come back with a gem...Regret anyone ? Easily in their top ten all-time songs.
Here To Stay is a good tune, and would be in my top 5 New Order 2001-02 tracks, but no higher.
- Crystal
- Primitive Notion
- 60 miles An Hour
- Sabotage
- Here To Stay
- Vicious Streak
- Player In The League
- Close Range
- Someone Like You
- Rock The Shack
"Crystal" is probably the best song I've heard in 3 years. I like Here to stay, but it sound more "chemical" than New Order
Chemicals can be fun if used in the right way.
;););) anita...better living through chemicals
HTS = Really good song.
Crystal= Absolute classic. Magnificent. Best single I've heard from any band for years.
Crystal wouldn't even breach my NO Top 40! When I first downloaded it in April 01 I really feared the worst for the new album. Thankfully Get Ready werent that bad.
Here To Stay on the other hand is, as I said earlier, the best thing since Regret.
i love "crystal" it starts out so beautiful and then it starts to ROCK, song of the year in my mind.
i love crystal to bits, especially as i mix it a lot cos its just so delious. but hts is great too, especially when he starts winding up that guitar and i like the end were his singing here to stay, but crystals definitly a classic in my eyes.
here to stay is a great track and i love it, BUT... Crystal was my pick, the song is an instant classic
Originally posted by Al Jarvis No competition whatsoever. Crystal is CLASSIC New Order. Here To Say just isn't. Listened to the latter to death for about 2 weeks, then woke up one morning and thought, god, this is boring. I could never say that about the former.Anyone who says the latter just ain't seen this band live.
I saw em live 1985, 1987 & 2002 and still prefer HTS.
HTS to stay is a great choon & long awaited as well. Almost sounds as if Gillian is playing on it.
Crystal, however, is one of NOs finest moments IMHO. The 6+ min album version which they opened their sets with this year & last is just sublime, that guitar outro, nectar.
Talking about degrees of excellence here, but Crystal is up there with Regret, Temptation & Ceremony for me.
crystal...substantial,rewarding..
hts...a tad skimpy,a quick fix..
btw when do you go to australia to watch a couple of thrashings j.g ???
Crystal for me but I prefer the radio edit version which appears more powerful than the meandering album version.
I like HTS as well especially the Glittermix. Was a bit disappointed that it never got a live airing in the Summer.
This is a shocker of a choice to make. I remember Crystal as being the first New Order track I had heard, although it was a grower (my first real obsession began with 60 MPH). Here to Stay was pretty instant and it has a huge advantage here as it's the only single I've ever bought for $10aus. To rate both songs' attributes out of 10:
Crystal Here to Stay
Intro 9 7 Guitar lines 8 8 Chorus 8 10 Bassline 10 7 Outro 7 9 Total 42/50 41/50
So it's Crystal by a whisker--and yes it probably is the best single release by New order. It was their biggest American hit I believe although I don't have confirmation of that.
Oh please! This 'debate' is about as even-handed as the Australia-England Ashes cricket series. CRYSTAL is up there with the very great NO songs, just a notch under the big three, Temptation, TPK & True Faith, in my opinion. HERE TO STAY is not a bad tune by any stretch of the imagination and it kind of grows on you but it's not in the same league as CRYSTAL and I'd go so far as to say that Player In The League is almost as good as HTS, if you want to compare apples with apples.
Originally posted by PAUL TROWELL crystal...substantial,rewarding..hts...a tad skimpy,a quick fix..btw when do you go to australia to watch a couple of thrashings j.g ???
Arrived on xmas eve. Had the pleasure of watching us get battered by Hayden, Langer & Waugh today. Glorious weather though & plenty of cold beer to help the time pass.....could be worse.
Originally posted by Justin Lazic This is a shocker of a choice to make. I remember Crystal as being the first New Order track I had heard, although it was a grower (my first real obsession began with 60 MPH). Here to Stay was pretty instant and it has a huge advantage here as it's the only single I've ever bought for $10aus. To rate both songs' attributes out of 10: Crystal Here to StayIntro 9 7Guitar lines 8 8Chorus 8 10Bassline 10 7Outro 7 9Total 42/50 41/50So it's Crystal by a whisker--and yes it probably is the best single release by New order. It was their biggest American hit I believe although I don't have confirmation of that.
Definitely NOT "their biggest American hit." It did well here only on the dance chart. Radio refused to play it.
I had a sneaking feeling that was the case. However I was doing some homework not long ago in the Discography section of neworderonline and in the singles area it used to have chart positions for each of the releases. I now notice that these statistics have been removed, for whatever reason. For Crystal it had five different countries' positions listed, but all I can recall off the top of my head are UK #8 and US #16. I also recall that Regret was US #28 and True Faith US #32 (their only other US top 40 hits). Patrick do you have any ideas as to how this mistake might have happened and could you confirm the authenticity of the Regret and True Faith positions?
Originally posted by Justin Lazic I had a sneaking feeling that was the case. However I was doing some homework not long ago in the Discography section of neworderonline and in the singles area it used to have chart positions for each of the releases. I now notice that these statistics have been removed, for whatever reason. For Crystal it had five different countries' positions listed, but all I can recall off the top of my head are UK #8 and US #16. I also recall that Regret was US #28 and True Faith US #32 (their only other US top 40 hits). Patrick do you have any ideas as to how this mistake might have happened and could you confirm the authenticity of the Regret and True Faith positions?
Sorry, Justin, I'm not sure. I would have said that Regret was probably their biggest hit here; it did get quite a bit of radio play. The U.S. singles charts are based mainly on radio play rather than on sales; in contrast, the album charts are based purely on sales. That #16 might have been based on sales. Regret did quite well, as I recall on the Billboard "modern rock" single chart, based on radio play.
Had to vote for Crystal. Again, as many have said, HTS is by no means a bad or poor song, but just doesn't do it for me like Crystal does. The riffs, bassline, intro, the way it fuckin rocks. HTS is a little too synthesized for me; I prefer NO's rockin, guitar material over their dancier synth stuff.
It was one of the first NO songs I heard in which I knew it was them and it, along with SLY, got me into the band b4 Get Ready came out.
One of the two best songs on Get Ready, along with Primitive Notion....which is actually better....
Originally posted by Matthew Smyth > Originally posted by Al Jarvis No competition whatsoever. Crystal is CLASSIC New Order. Here To Say just isn't. Listened to the latter to death for about 2 weeks, then woke up one morning and thought, god, this is boring. I could never say that about the former.Anyone who says the latter just ain't seen this band live.
I saw em live 1985, 1987 & 2002 and still prefer HTS.
ditto. yes, crystal is classic NO. but i, too, have seen them live a few times and still prefer here to stay (if only by one of kitty's whiskers 
).
When I heard Crystal & HTS for the first time respectively, I thought these songs are fookin great. But my preference leans slightly towards Crystal. Killer intro.
